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Topic author: Rebel_James
Subject: Barrett Firearms 'tells off' LAPD Chief !
Posted on: 12/15/2004 11:18:59 PM

This letter was in reprinted in the January 2005 issue of 'The American Rifleman.'

Great letter. I really like the part where Mr. Barrett says he may NOT repair the LAPD's own Barrett .50!

Chief William J. Bratton
Los Angeles Police Department
150 North Los Angeles Street

Re: LAPD 82A Rifle, Serial No. 1186

Point of Contact: Jim Moody
213 485 4061
Dear Chief Bratton,

I, a U.S. citizen, own Barrett Firearms Mfg. Inc., and for 20 years I have built .50 caliber rifles for my fellow citizens, for their Law Enforcement departments and for their nation's armed forces.

You may be aware of the latest negative misinformation campaign from a Washington based anti-gun group, the Violence Policy Center. The VPC has, for three or so years, been unsuccessful in Washington, D.C. trying to demonize and ban a new subclass of firearms, the .50 caliber and other "too powerful" rifles. This type of nibbling process has been historically successful in civilian disarmament of other nations governed by totalitarian and other regimes less tolerant of individual rights than the United States .

The VPC's most recent efforts directs this misinformation campaign at your state, attempting to get any California body to pass any law against .50 caliber firearms. In March 2002 the VPC caused the California State Assembly, Public Safety Committee to consider and reject the issue by a 5 to 0 with 1 abstaining vote.

Regrettably, the same material has been presented to your city council. I personally attended the council meeting in Los Angeles regarding attempts to bar ownership of the .50 caliber rifle in your city. I was allowed to briefly address the council. The tone of the discussion was mostly emotionally based, so the facts that I attempted to provide were ineffective to the extent they were heard at all. The council voted to have the city attorney draft an ordinance to ban the .50, and further, to instruct the city's representatives in Sacramento and in Washington D.C. to push for bans at their respective levels.

At that council meeting, I was very surprised to see an LAPD officer seated front and center with a Barrett 82A1 .50 cal rifle. It was the centerpiece of the discussion. As you know, there have been no crimes committed with these rifles, and most importantly, current California law does not allow the sale of the M82AI in the state because of its detachable magazine and features that make it an "assault weapon." This rifle was being deceptively used by your department. The officer portrayed it as a sample of a currently available .50 cal rifle, available for sale to the civilians of Los Angeles. One councilman even questioned how this rifle was available under current laws, but as I stated, facts were ineffective that day.

Your officer, speaking for the LAPD, endorsed the banning of this rifle and its ammunition. Then he used the rifle for photo ops with the Councilmen each of whom, in handling the firearm, may have been committing a felony. I was amazed.

Since 1968, with the closing of the U.S. Springfield Amory, all of the small arms produced for the various government agencies are from the private sector. Every handgun, rifle or shotgun that law enforcement needs comes from this firearms industry. Unless the City of Los Angeles has plans of setting up its own firearms manufacturing, it may need to guard the manufacturing sources it has now.

When I returned to my office from Los Angeles, I found an example of our need for mutual cooperation. Your department had sent one of your 82A1 rifles in to us for service. All of my knowledge in the use of my rifle in the field of law enforcement had been turned upside down by witnessing how your department used yours. Not to protect and serve, but for deception, photo opportunities, and to further an ill-conceived effort that may result in the use of LA taxpayer monies to wage losing political battles in Washington against civil liberties regarding gun ownership.

Please excuse my slow response on the repair service of the rifle. I am battling to what service I am repairing the rifle for. I will not sell, nor service, my rifles to those seeking to infringe upon the Constitution and the crystal clear rights it affords individuals to own firearms.

I implore you to investigate the facts of the .50, to consider the liberties of the law-abiding people and our mutual coexistence, and to change your department's position on this issue.


Ronnie Barrett

"The Greatest Battle Implement Ever Devised!"
-- Gen. George S. Patton
referring to the M1 Garand


Reply author: SilentKnight
Replied on: 12/15/2004 11:25:01 PM

Yup...this was some time ago.....I like Ronnie.

Come and Take it

Dont mess with Texas

Reply author: Bullzeye
Replied on: 12/15/2004 11:25:23 PM

Police chiefs, especially of large metropolitan police departments, are usually massive totalitarians, especially when it comes to guns.

The police chief here in DC has repeatedly and loudly expressed his support for a national ban on private ownership of firearms. He lobbied tirelessly for the renewal of the AWB, and predicted (quote) "bodies in the streets" if it was allowed to sunset.

None of this would apply to police officers, of course.

Sieg Heil.

"Our finest tribute to our fallen dead would be to convince their sons that we were not Rambo and neither are they. -Gus Hasford

Reply author: SilentKnight
Replied on: 12/15/2004 11:26:46 PM

Heil das shizakauf police chief!

Come and Take it

Dont mess with Texas

Reply author: Guns & Glass
Replied on: 12/15/2004 11:29:43 PM

Have done business with them, simply described in a few words:
Top notch company that walks the talk.

Happy Bullet Holes!

Reply author: CA sucks
Replied on: 12/15/2004 11:49:12 PM

Id like to see every gun manufacturer/ dealer/ gunsmith take a lesson from this guy and refuse to do anything for a LEA or someone they know is a LEO.
Since it is a privatized gun industry, they are about profit. These organizations are trying to get guns out of the hands of normal citizens. If these organizations succeed their profits will bein the toilet. If the private sector united, sorta like the olden day trusts, and refused to sell or service LE Agencys, then soon they would have to give in and these police agencies would stop offering support to the anti-gun groups

Reply author: jsergovic
Replied on: 12/15/2004 11:59:02 PM

A1 attitude!
As a CA resident at the time their .50 cal rifle ban passed,
after doing all I could to inform the legislature,
it is comforting to remember Mr. Barrett's actions.

Reply author: Rebel_James
Replied on: 12/16/2004 12:00:47 AM

CA_sucks, you've got a great idea! Maybe if ALL makers, importers, distributors, etc., banded together and demanded they stay out of the politics of 'gun control,' it would make a difference.

At least, it might make them STFU and do what they're supposed to do instead of getting involved in politics and sensationalism.

"The Greatest Battle Implement Ever Devised!"
-- Gen. George S. Patton
referring to the M1 Garand

Reply author: ZERODIN
Replied on: 12/16/2004 12:15:59 AM

Do citizens who think they don't need guns because the cops will protect them ever wonder why the cops have so much free time to lobby and rally against individual liberty when there is still so much crime on the streets?

Reply author: beantownshootah
Replied on: 12/16/2004 12:46:30 AM

Of course I agree with every single thing Barrett says.

The average schmoe on the street has a lot more to fear from a .38 revolver than from any .50 caliber rifle.

Just don't forget that Barrett is a also a man protecting his livelihood.

Reply author: Area51
Replied on: 12/16/2004 07:02:38 AM

Contemplated buying a 50 BMG for a number of years, and this past summer decided to "take the plunge." While "researching" the available guns, I came across this letter--that narrowed my choice to one--a Barrett 99. In several ways, my best gun purchase to date.

Reply author: wizard78
Replied on: 12/16/2004 08:45:15 AM

Thanks for posting the letter. I agree we ALL should stand up for our freedoms. Always remember that most chiefs are politicians and are appointed into their posititions. Unfortunatly, their opinions are seen by the general public as true rather than just their "opinion".

"The best way to change someone's mind is with a rock"

Reply author: chuck
Replied on: 12/16/2004 09:00:53 AM

Reply to Cal. LAPD, Thanks for sending the rifle back, being it is unlawfull to own one in Cal.

Reply author: matwor
Replied on: 12/16/2004 10:09:16 AM


"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

Edmund Burke

Reply author: CA sucks
Replied on: 12/16/2004 5:50:31 PM

Rebel- it could be taken farther and they could just not sell to any LE agency or officer at all. They are all private buisnesses and as such they can choose not to sell to anyone they want. If the police cheifs withdraw their support, yet the antigun agenda continues to move forward, then the gun industry could outright refuse to sell to anybody law enforcement related. If private citizens aren't allowed ot have guns, then our private manufacturing owned by private citizens, could, in theory, keep the police from having any guns as well.
If they take away our guns, it wouldnt be as bad if the police had their guns taken away too.

I wonder if the NRA would be capable of organizing something like that, starting with refusing to sell/serivce to any LEO that lends support to the anti-gun agenda, and maybe moving on to all LEO in a few years if the first option doesn't work.
They could compile blacklists of all dealers and manufacturers that sell and service to agencies headed by anti gun police cheifs.
Will probably never happen, but its nice to think about. Message Forums :

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