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mrmike08075
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USA
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Posted - 04/13/2004 :  8:02:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1. semiautomatic pistol (pg. 178 TRIPLE K catalog)
2. SATA model
3. serial #6631 (the company went bustin 1960)
4. .25 acp (6.3mm browning)
5. BBL LENGTH: 2 9/16"
6. OAL:4.68" / OAH:3.50"
7. wieght unloaded: 13 ounces
8. semiautomatic blowback pistol
9. single stack detachable mag / 7+1 capacity
10. rifling: 6 groove right hand cocenrtic twist
11. unusual takedown via the saftey lever located on the left side of the frame
12. white plastic grips (butchered via hand checkering / paint) ordered hard rubber replacements from NUMRICH ARMS
13. currently badly nickel plated... i am sending it out to be blued (european mauser pistol blue)
14. half moon front sight / raised frame notch / groove rear sight
15. left of slide: PISTOLA CAL. 6.35=SATA=GARDONE V.T. MADE IN ITALY
16. the usual italian proofs and stamps.

i picked the gun up for $20.00. if you look past the aweful grips and badly done nickel plate finish (both of wich are being fixed the right way, proffesional) the gun is pristine. no pitting, or rust, or marring. the bore is perfect, with virgin rifling, lands and grooves. the muzzle crown is perfect. i have had the gun apart (took some figuring and playing, let me tell you) and everythings intact and good.

i contacted TANFOGLIO with little luck. they say the company / partnership disolved in 1960, that less then 8,000 were made, and they have no other records or info available. thet state all documents were turned over to the police or destroyed.

its a solid design, its in good mechanical order, and soon will look good to.

anyone ever seen one??? anyone have one??? any info at all other than TRIPLE K CATALOG??? anything at all??? any ideas on value after the new grips and euopean mauser pistol blue finish are applied??? any intrest to collectors???
best regards, mike.
BTT
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.

Edited by - mrmike08075 on 04/15/2004 6:09:20 PM

rufe-snow
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Posted - 04/13/2004 :  9:22:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Value is base on Condition, Originality and most importantly Demand.

The Demand for a refinished, unknown, Italian .25 Auto is minuscule.

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Hangfire
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2889 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2004 :  8:49:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can't find anything in my books. Do you really think its worth putting money into?I would think the only market would be to an unknowing buyer thats sold on the new finish.

Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob
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mrmike08075
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USA
2891 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2004 :  6:23:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i picked this up in trade for work done at the shop. the guy who owned it was a dentist, and made several poor attepts to gold, silver, and nickel plate several handguns in his garage. at this point, realisticly, i have $0.00 invested in the gun.

the gun seems to be a close copy of the older series of WALTHER semiautomatic pistols. i know that TAFOGLIO has a poor rep today, and has produced some real dogs. this seems to be a decent gun of mid level quality. the design is interesting, and the takedown procedure that is assisted via the saftey lever is unusual. TRIPLE K has a picture, and a brief description. they mention the odd takedown method. i found one line mentions in 3 other books.

it costs me nothing ($0.00) to get a gun proffesionaly refinished. i do work for the guy and his company, mostly research and fact finding, wich he credits me with in labor trade.

the grips (hard black rubber, NUMRICH ARMS) only cost me $12.00 plus shipping.

for less then the cost of a 2-topping pizza i get an uncomman, interesting, proffesionaly european / mauser pistol blued handgun with brand new grips.

i like to put oddball, obsolete, and unusual neglected guns back into shooting condition. i have rescued a MAS 36 BOLT ACTION RIFLE, STAR MODEL A 1922 VARIANT SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL, CZ24 SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL, MODEL 99 ARISAKE SHORT RIFLE, etc...

i shoot them and enjoy them. best regards, mike.

What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
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Hangfire
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2889 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2004 :  10:31:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Under those circumstances, you will have returned a firearm to the real world!!!

Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob
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RichardK
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USA
1 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2009 :  10:11:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have 25 calibur SATA stamped 1957 6.35mm i need a extra clip works very well and is very clean.#2401 white plastic grips

Richar Kuduk
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rufe-snow
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Posted - 10/03/2009 :  11:53:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RichardK

I have 25 calibur SATA stamped 1957 6.35mm i need a extra clip works very well and is very clean.#2401 white plastic grips




Triple K, at this link, has them.

http://www.triplek.com/Products/id/38/grp/412/prd/1100/
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hunt4fun
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USA
3 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2010 :  3:58:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mike could you please let me know where to find a firing pin.




or someone?
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mark christian
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Panama
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Posted - 02/07/2010 :  4:47:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hunt4fun

mike could you please let me know where to find a firing pin.




or someone?



This is a SIX YEAR OLD Thread! Mike is gone and as I understnd the story he won't be coming back any time soon...Or ever.
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