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 J. Stevens Arms Company. Model 58 410
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wesleyscrivner
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USA
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Posted - 11/22/2005 :  2:01:46 PM  Show Profile
I recently purchased a J. Stevens Arms Company Model 58 410 at a yard sale. It was old and beat up but it beckoned to me like a sirens call. I believed the poor thing to be in distress and in need of some tender care. I am in the process of restoring it as best I can. I have never been much on finding history or "book value" of any firearm via the net (other than asking you guys)... so I am here again pleading for your expertise. Here is the exact stamping on the barrel:


J. Stevens Arms Company
Chicopee Falls, Mass U.S.A.
410 Bore Proof Tested

MODEL 58


I paid $35 for the firearm and 2 boxes of ammunition so even if its worth nothing I have spent less money than I would on a weekend of paintballing !!

-George "Wesley" Scrivner

Fatstrat
Advanced Member

8307 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2005 :  2:26:00 PM  Show Profile
"Gun Traders Guide" lists the Stevens Mod 58 .410 (made 1937-81) at: NIB: $126. VG: $101. Gd: $69.
Older models had plain stocks. Newer production had checkered.
On the aside: .410's are FUN.
Did you know that a rifled slug from a .410 has short range (100yrs or less) ballistics approaching that of a .357 Mag?

Extremism in persuit of Freedom is no vice.
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wesleyscrivner
Starting Member

USA
45 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2005 :  2:30:25 PM  Show Profile
The stock on this one is plain. I will attatch a photo when I get a chance. Thanks so much!

-George Wesley Scrivner
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JackiePapers
Junior Member

USA
360 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2005 :  8:44:37 PM  Show Profile
How about a H&R Model 58 "Topper" ? Same firearm as the Stevens? Mine is SN AP270296... Anybody have any idea how old?

Interesting tidbit.. the 410 slug / 357 mag thing...

Jack
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Fatstrat
Advanced Member

8307 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2005 :  05:07:23 AM  Show Profile
I don't find a Model 58 Topper listed. There is a Mod 158, and a Mod. 058. Both are the same gun w/slight modifications.


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grizzclaw
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1101 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2005 :  05:34:06 AM  Show Profile
Isn't the stevens a bolt gun, and the topper a break open? I have a stevens, I haven't seen it for years, my father-in-law "borrowed" it and it hasn't made it back. $100 at a show. I also have a mossberg 185d, $135 at a show. .410's are always good sellers. I wouldn't get rid of mine. I just bought another contender barrel in .410, alot of fun, and cheap to reload. $100 to $150 on run of the mill guns seems to be standard in my area.

Thanks, Grizz

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Fatstrat
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8307 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2005 :  05:38:33 AM  Show Profile
Yes, the Topper is a break open while the Stevens mentioned is a bolt action.
Prices on even rough, but still functional .410's in my area run in the $80-$100 range.

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wesleyscrivner
Starting Member

USA
45 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2005 :  11:43:12 AM  Show Profile
I love shotguns. I guess I love them because I can always find deals on them. A little over a year ago I paid a guy $500 for a Boito 12 guage Side by Side, a Revelation 410 (Western Auto, pump), a Ranger 101.12 410 (bolt action tube feed), single shot breakover Bridge Gun Company Black Prince , and a single shot Hopkins and Allen 16 guage (I think). I didn't get a steal or anything but I feel like it was fair. The only problem I have is I need to get the Hopkins and Allen to the gunsmith to have him mic the barrel. It was said to be a 12 guage when I baught them but a 12 guage round is slightly to large and a 16 guage round is slightly loose. I simply have not been able to make it to the local smith during normal business hours. Pretty rural area around here!

-George "Wesley" Scrivner

I am not an expert on firearms, I just enjoy them.

Edited by - wesleyscrivner on 11/23/2005 12:18:06 PM
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JackiePapers
Junior Member

USA
360 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2005 :  12:15:19 PM  Show Profile
Yes Frat... my Topper is a single breakopen 410... Pretty sure that its just "Model 58" but I'll look again when I get home. I paid 85 bucks for it about 15 years ago... my son's "first gun"... freaked my wife out, of course!

Jack
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wesleyscrivner
Starting Member

USA
45 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2005 :  12:26:06 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by JackiePapers

How about a H&R Model 58 "Topper" ? Same firearm as the Stevens? Mine is SN AP270296... Anybody have any idea how old?

Interesting tidbit.. the 410 slug / 357 mag thing...

Jack



Please correct me if I am wrong. I was just browsing for parts and thought I would check to see what yours looked like.

Your Model H and R Model 58:

http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=1560z58


My J. Stevens Model 58

http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=089Zz58


-George "Wesley" Scrivner

Aim high. Shoot for the moon. Blame the falling bullets on the neighbor.


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timberbeast
Advanced Member

USA
3256 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2005 :  02:32:38 AM  Show Profile
I've killed more game with my Stevens bolt 58 than with any other gun I own. My daughter has started killing edible game with her Topper. I inherited the Stevens when I was about 10 and bought the Topper for her when she was 9.
The Topper cost me 30 bucks. Neither is worth more than a hundred bucks on the market but both are priceless to me!
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Fatstrat
Advanced Member

8307 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2005 :  04:29:06 AM  Show Profile
I imagine your 58 Topper is te same as the 158 and later 058 listed in Traders Guide. Made from 1962 to 1981. Book values run from $147 NIB to $80. in good condition.

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