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Rickstir
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593 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2002 :  09:54:33 AM  Show Profile
I am amazed at the breath of knowledge on this board. What a resource.

I have a Stallard JS 9MM (erroniously reported as a Smithfield in earlier posts....yes the hams are good!).

Bought this piece at an auction a few years ago for $170.00. I like the gun. Fits my hand real good, and the action is smooth. No frills. I'll bet grand total I haven't fired 500 rounds with a pistol, but the wife and I are starting to shoot more. I can hit what I am aiming at at 20 paces pretty well.

Can anyone tell me anything a this piece? What about Stallard/Maverick as a company? Still in business, etc.

Any and all input is greatly appreciated. Thanks to the members here for passing along their knowledge.

Like in the NFL, defense is the key.

leeblackman
Advanced Member

5534 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2002 :  12:06:56 PM  Show Profile
Looked in the books for ya. First thing that happened when I looked up Stallard Arms of Mansfield, OH a little text underneath it told me to see listings under Hi-Point, so I'm guessing that they are out of business and were probably bought out by Hi-Point.

Now from what I understand Hi-Point is now Hi-Point/MKS, and from what I hear MKS has done nothing but made them better. A guy visited the hang out (The Gun Shop), and apparently he's a salesman for a company that sells industrial supplies to MKS. And when he visited their facility, they gave him a .45 for FREE. And he loved it so much that he had a set of custom stagghorn grips made for it at my hand out (The Gun Shop). From what he told us, though they aren't the frilliest guns on the market, the company prides itself in them. They shoot, and if anything break, they fix it free...

Now back to the book.

The JS-9 made from 1990-98, has 8rd magazine, 4.5" barrel, 7.75" OAL, weight 39oz., fixed low-profile sights w/3-dot, available in matte blue, matte black, or chrome finish, and has checkered synthetic grips. $90.

Or if you have the one with the compensated barrel and shortened slide, adjustable sights, and a 10rd magazine weighing 30oz, made 1998 to date then its worth $110.

According to the website the compesated model retails for $159.99. Their web address is http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com



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wipala
Advanced Member

7093 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2002 :  3:38:45 PM  Show Profile
The company started out as Haskel then went to Maverick then Stallard then Hi-Point. The originals where big clunky piles of pot metal and they have gotten better as they went . The Haskels and Stallards originally had a dealer price of well under 100.00. I think the cost on the Hi-points in the lower 100.00 range. The early ones looked like bad cartoon drawings of guns (Dick Tracy). They were very heavy


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leeblackman
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5534 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2002 :  7:28:32 PM  Show Profile
Yea I think I have one in the middle of my trout line.... Couldn't think of anything else to do with it.... hehehe

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wipala
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7093 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2002 :  02:19:49 AM  Show Profile
A friend of mine (a gunsmith) had a man bring one of the Mavericks in and put a set TC pistol sighes on it. The sites were worth more than the pistol. He claimed it shot great with no felt recoil , of course the darn thing probably weighed 5 pounds.

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azgunnut2@yahoo.com
Junior Member

USA
397 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2002 :  01:50:09 AM  Show Profile
O.K. , if you have one of these that works ....call ripleys.....
we refused to sell them and wont even work on them in our shop they are so bad....have seem used ones at gun shows for well less than a franklin ($100) with NO takers at all....and why would you put one on a trot line???no respect for fish????ha!ha!......a $170.00 , wish you
would come in our shop..............................................
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The artist formerly known as Dano
Starting Member

South Sandwich Islands
1 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2002 :  03:02:38 AM  Show Profile
Sorry bud, but you have yourself a GENUINE piece of junk, and......you paid way too much for it.

Live and learn. We all make mistakes. Only the dumb ones make the same mistake twice. I have a good feeling that you won't!

Stay safe!!
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AO2Bretz
Starting Member

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2005 :  10:41:28 AM  Show Profile
How do you tear this gun down for cleaning?
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mark christian
Administrator

Panama
19392 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2005 :  6:52:02 PM  Show Profile
Hey, the last time I said something bad about HiPoints a fellow named Dean told me that I was anti gun and should be working for Handgun Control. I am sorry but I just don't like these guns and if that makes me anti gun and anti American then old Dean is entitled to his opinion. To disassemble a Stallard you'll need a 3/32 inch punch and a hammer (try to avoid using the hammer for pounding on the pistol itself). Pull the slide to the rear and then let it go forawrd for maybe 1/8" and you will see the slide retaining pin at the rear of the frame. Punch out the pin, then lift up on the rear of the slide and push it forward and off of the frame. Once the slide is off you can then remove the striker assembly. I just can't believe how many anti gun folks we have on these boards...anyone who bad mouths HiPoints must be working for Sara Brady! Come on Dean, let us hear all about it!
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=146153
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Edited by - mark christian on 02/24/2005 6:54:21 PM
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Dean Cascio
Senior Member

USA
1968 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2005 :  9:33:18 PM  Show Profile
Mr Christian
Its Dean again,I still question why you would call a working gun a pile of junk.(He was not going into combat with it)You use the same line of logic as HIC. (Your post imply,Only the Rich Upper Class who own can aford a highend gun has the right to own firearms.)The low end guns for the most part use a proven design that The Master himself John Browning developed 100 years ago.
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By the way, if Hi Points are so wonderful why do you even bother to own any of those other brands which you felt the need to mention?

You still have not answered the question??
Dean
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Originally posted by mark christian

Hey, the last time I said something bad about HiPoints a fellow named Dean told me that I was anti gun and should be working for Handgun Control. I am sorry but I just don't like these guns and if that makes me anti gun and anti American then old Dean is entitled to his opinion. To disassemble a Stallard you'll need a 3/32 inch punch and a hammer (try to avoid using the hammer for pounding on the pistol itself). Pull the slide to the rear and then let it go forawrd for maybe 1/8" and you will see the slide retaining pin at the rear of the frame. Punch out the pin, then lift up on the rear of the slide and push it forward and off of the frame. Once the slide is off you can then remove the striker assembly. I just can't believe how many anti gun folks we have on these boards...anyone who bad mouths HiPoints must be working for Sara Brady! Come on Dean, let us hear all about it!
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=146153
"Nothing can ever be made 'idiot proof' because idiots are simply too clever"!
Mark T. Christian



If they don't trust us with guns, how can we trust them with the government?

Edited by - Dean Cascio on 02/24/2005 9:41:26 PM
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mark christian
Administrator

Panama
19392 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2005 :  10:05:15 PM  Show Profile
Just so you will know Dean, in addition to Hi Points I also dislike the following firearms:
Jennings
Bryco
Davis
Anything made by Hesse
Most Chinese shotguns
Century Arms M1 Garands
Most Universal M1 carbines
Lorcins
Sundance
Talon
Phoenix Arms
Parker/Wyoming Arms
Lots of stuff from AMT
Most RGs, Rohms, ect.
Charco
Rexio
Clerke
Heritage
Sundance
and probably a few dozen others, if I wnated to take the time to think back. I sell guns for a living Dean and that is one of the reasons that people on GB tell me they like to read my posts and appreciate my advice on firearms. For me to suggest that a pistol like the Hi Point is a good choice (for anything) would be my failing to uphold the trust that Gun Broker members have placed in me to be honest and truthfull in my evaluations of firearms. There are many fine choices in the surplus handgun market which would be far better than a Hi Point and just because I tell people openly which guns I like and which guns I don't like hardly makes me a shill for the Brady Bunch. I fairnes to you however I will continue to post the link to your comments so that any other GB members who share my dislike for cheaply made firearms like the Hi Point can read how they too are anti gun, at least in your eyes. Based on the reading of dozens of posts on GB about Hi Points over the past few years we have an awful lot of anti gun people on the boards because Hi Points are not the number one choice for hanguns. By the way, where EXACTLY did I say that these Hi Points were a pile junk?






"Nothing can ever be made 'idiot proof' because idiots are simply too clever"!
Mark T. Christian

Edited by - mark christian on 02/24/2005 10:10:34 PM
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