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toddnavy56
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Posted - 02/03/2007 :  10:22:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I came across a Seville 44 mag in brand new and perfect condition. I haven't been able to find anything about this firearm. I'm looking for anyone that may know anyhting about it before I buy it.

big mango
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United Arab Emirates
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Posted - 02/03/2007 :  10:35:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Previous manufacturer located in Tombstone and Tucson, AZ and Post Falls, ID.
The Seville and El Dorado line of single actions began life in 1972 as the "Abilene". It was during that year that Sig Himmelman built the prototype and formed United States Arms of Riverhead, NY. IN 1976, the company split, with Sig and Forrest Smith reorganizing as United Sporting Arms of Hauppauge, NY, manufacturing the blue model Seville and the stainless El Dorado. The El Dorado was an important model, because it was the first time that an all stainless .44 Mag. was available to the general public. United States Arms continued to produce the Abilene in Riverhead until Mossberg acquired the line in 1979, production was moved to New Haven, CT and ceased in 1983.
In 1979, United Sporting Arms established a second facility in Tombstone, AZ. Sevilles weren't manufactured in Tombstone, but were assembled from parts shipped from Hauppage. Only a few hundred models were produced before operations were moved to Bisbee, AZ. While most models were blue, the Silver Seville was a Tombstone variant, with stainless backstrap and high blue finish.
The Bisbee operation was short lived too, and during mid-1979, Sig Himmelman relocated the western half of United Sporting Arms to Tucson. By 1980, the company had split again into El Dorado Arms of Hauppauge and Sporting Arms Inc. of Tucson. There were separate companies with their own line of revolvers. Stainless El Dorados were produced in NY and the blue/stainless Sevilles came from Arizona.
While El Dorado Arms primarily built .44 Mags., Sporting Arms Inc. expanded the line with many new chamberings. In 1982, the company unveiled the stretch-frame Seville in .357 Maximum. A couple of .375 Super Mags were also produced before the company was sold and the name changed to United Sporting Arms in 1983. That same year, El Dorado Arms closed shop.
The Tucson facility continued until folding in late 1985. Many unique variants were produced between 1983-1985, including .454 Mag., .375 SuperMag, Sheriff's models, and silhouette guns.
During 1986, United Sporting Arms was reformed in Post Falls, ID, but operations could not be sustained. Only 200 (approx.) guns were produced in this location, and quality was sub par compared to earlier Seville models.
By 1988, Forrest Smith and Russell Wood resurrected El Dorado Arms, basing production in Chimney Rock, NC. During 1988-1998, the company manufactured hand fit and tuned single actions. Both standard frame and stretch platforms were offered, as well as a rimfire model. Production was low, but quality was very high.

big mango
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usarmscollector
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USA
35 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2007 :  9:23:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello Big Mango,

You are very knowledgeable about the history of the companies. I would say you were my dad, Sig Himmelmann, but at 78 his memory is not that good.


John Himmelmann
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Hangfire
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Posted - 02/07/2007 :  10:44:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by usarmscollector

hello Big Mango,

You are very knowledgeable about the history of the companies. I would say you were my dad, Sig Himmelmann, but at 78 his memory is not that good.







Here is apparently the original source...

http://store.bluebookinc.com/download/Category.aspx?product=GUN&id=1020






Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob

https://membership.nrahq.org/

Edited by - Hangfire on 02/07/2007 10:47:31 PM
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usarmscollector
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USA
35 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2007 :  11:16:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know the name Rick Maples and he may have wrote the article. i lived it driving to riverhead to Doctors path to the plant.


John Himmelmann
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big mango
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United Arab Emirates
1824 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2007 :  8:08:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
THANKS FOR THE SOURCES QUOTE HANGFIRE, DIDN T MEAN TO SOUND LIKE I WROTE IT

big mango
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usarmscollector
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USA
35 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2007 :  9:44:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
more info at www.singleactions.com

John Himmelmann
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Lee Martin
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Posted - 02/14/2007 :  7:52:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by usarmscollector

I know the name Rick Maples and he may have wrote the article. i lived it driving to riverhead to Doctors path to the plant.





John....Rick Maples based the write-up off of our aritcle. I think he wanted to make it longer, but was limited to how much he could write.

Lee Martin
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usarmscollector
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USA
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Posted - 02/14/2007 :  8:23:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cool. Do you know when he wrote it?

John Himmelmann

Edited by - usarmscollector on 02/14/2007 8:48:23 PM
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