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 Stevens M44 vs M44 1/2 Single Shot
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ern98
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  8:42:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm curious about the differences between the old model 44 and 44 1/2 Stevens single shot rifle actions? Is the 44 1/2 bigger, beefier, made of more modern metals or what? I've come into a model 44 project rifle and want to know where it is lacking. I'm considering cartridges like the 22K Hornet or the 218 Mashburn Bee in it, but I don't want to over do it. Any info will be appreciated. Thanks...

perry shooter
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  9:15:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 44&1/2 action is MUCH stronger lock up the 44&1/2 was offered in 22 long rifle 25 stevens rim fire 32long rim fire 25/20 stevens center fire 32/20, 32/40, 38/40, 33/55, 44/40 and a bunch of 22 25 28 and 32 caliber but most of these were low pressures.EDIT EDIT Both the 44 and 44&1/2 actions have screw in barrels Some had a takedown screw but the barrel threads on these just were not fit up as tight.

Edited by - perry shooter on 10/22/2007 5:58:11 PM
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spasmcreek
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  9:30:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
44 was 22lr thru .32-20 basic economodel....44-1/2 ideal 22rf thru .30-40gvr & ideal english model with lite tapered bbl 22rf thru .28-30-120 & shotgun stock both designed for smokeless powder loads ...option in bbls, sights, triggers....sooooo would consider cartridge that would match the original caliber max cups....this is very basic & would search info for conversions as lots of these have been done over the years...excellent source is mag called the single shot exchange..i have tried favorite 22lr to 22mag but pins wouldn't hold...savage stevens repros made in late 1970's (M71-72-74)worked fine & of course now sav/stevs 30g in 17-22lr-22mag are out...have fun
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richarda
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USA
358 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2007 :  9:46:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When the .22 Hornet was new in the early 1930s, Savage/Stevens made some up on their #44 action, BUT they did NOT hold together over time - quick excessive wear such that the primers extruded, extraction very hard, etc.

#44 1/2 action is a completely different design, much stronger (dropping, rather than swinging, block), better materials (for the time).
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spasmcreek
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  9:57:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
check out auction #82823894 here on GB....it will make you drool
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joel_black
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USA
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Posted - 10/21/2007 :  4:13:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Although it was a weaker action, the 44 was made in the same calibers as the 44 1/2. The top rifle is a model 49 on a 44 1/2 action. The bottom rifle is a 47 on a 44 action. Both are in 38/55.



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ern98
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Posted - 10/22/2007 :  5:33:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, thanks for the info. Another question, is the barrel on the model 44 pressed in or threaded? Given the retaining screw I was assuming a tight tolerence slip like the favorite, but I haven't as yet gotten the barrel out. This action has some kind of bull after market 22cal barrel that I'm going at slowly. I'm still at the liquid wrench and tapping stage. But am comming to the conclusion that there may be more to it then that......
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joel_black
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USA
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Posted - 10/22/2007 :  5:50:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is screwed in on both the 44 and 44 1/2.
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ern98
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Posted - 10/22/2007 :  7:58:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perry shooter, Joel Black you are right it was screwed in. The liquid wrench soak helped and it came right off. Thanks
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joel_black
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USA
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Posted - 10/23/2007 :  2:16:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're welcome. Even though in the 1930s Savage (who by then owned Stevens) made some "Walnut Hill" 44s in .22 hornet, it is not a strong enough action for that, or any high pressure load. On the other hand during its hay day in the late 1890s the 44 was made in all grades up up to the Model 54. The 47 I pictured has a very rare feature which looks like a trapezoid on the hammer face. It fits a recess below the firing pin and was intended to strengthen the lock up on rifles chambered for 32/40 and 38/55.
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