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wilmamae
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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  11:03:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bert,I was given a Mod.94 yesterday. Receiver is cracked so it is a parts gun I guess. Ser.# 1839560--- blank tang---marked 30-30 win---no receiver sight holes---no marks on receiver by ser. #---check butt---milled band--- short forearm---- receiver ring is cracked on the right side about in line with the edge of the bolt. Hope this helps,Swanie
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Bert H.
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Posted - 11/09/2009 :  11:57:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wilmamae

Hi Bert,I was given a Mod.94 yesterday. Receiver is cracked so it is a parts gun I guess. Ser.# 1839560--- blank tang---marked 30-30 win---no receiver sight holes---no marks on receiver by ser. #---check butt---milled band--- short forearm---- receiver ring is cracked on the right side about in line with the edge of the bolt. Hope this helps,Swanie



Hello and thank you... yes, every single serial number helps

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Posted - 11/09/2009 :  12:01:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by elglide

My 94 is #2039529 milled barrel bandsw, factory drilled for peep, checked butt plate _32 WIN. SPL._



Thank you very much for sharing the information

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unclecharlie
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Posted - 11/09/2009 :  2:38:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bert, I have a 32-40 Winchester MODEL 1894, serial #234428 2. Says simply 32-40 on top of the barrel. 3. It has a carbine butt. 4. reads:
MODEL 1894
--WINCHESTER--
TRADEMARK
This correlates to the second Style but the serial # corresponds to your third style. 5. No. 6.huh... 7.? 8. no.
The magazine tube extends 4" beyond the grip. 26" round barrel, That's about it. Hope this is helpful. Ted
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Posted - 11/09/2009 :  4:38:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by unclecharlie

Hi Bert, I have a 32-40 Winchester MODEL 1894, serial #234428 2. Says simply 32-40 on top of the barrel. 3. It has a carbine butt. 4. reads:
MODEL 1894
--WINCHESTER--
TRADEMARK
This correlates to the second Style but the serial # corresponds to your third style. 5. No. 6.huh... 7.? 8. no.
The magazine tube extends 4" beyond the grip. 26" round barrel, That's about it. Hope this is helpful. Ted



Hello Ted, and thank you for posting the information on your Model 1894.

I revised my original post with updated information (from my survey) concerning the serial number ranges for the various types of upper tang stamps. Please review it again.

Your Model 1894 is not in the exact serial range that I am most interested in (which is why the questions I posted are not making much sense in regards to your gun). The questions I have asked are specifically geared towards those Model 94s that are in the 1,000,000 - 2,700,000 range.

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wilmamae
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Posted - 11/14/2009 :  4:50:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bert, I found one more for sale here. Mod 94 Ser # 1216355.Marked 30WCF. Tang drilled and marked with type 7 script. No side holes in receiver. W mark on receiver bottom by ser #.Milled band. Long fore arm. Good luck, Swanie
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Posted - 11/16/2009 :  11:04:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wilmamae

Hi Bert, I found one more for sale here. Mod 94 Ser # 1216355.Marked 30WCF. Tang drilled and marked with type 7 script. No side holes in receiver. W mark on receiver bottom by ser #.Milled band. Long fore arm. Good luck, Swanie



Thanks for the information

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kylew
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Posted - 11/16/2009 :  11:53:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert, I have two 94's
1. ser #1618059, 20" carbine, upper tang no markings only one large screw at end of tang, no mount holes in receiver for site, barrel marking MODEL 94-32 W.S.- winchester proof steel, rounded milled bands, full length mag, flat checkered steel butt plate, forearm is 9 3/16" long.
2. (out of range just fyi) 26" rifle ser#485345, oct barrel, full length mag, barrel mark ---nickel steel barrel--- especially for smokeless powder, cal 32 W.S. upper tang marks model 1894 -WINCHESTER-
trade mark reg in us pat off, two screw holes one for site, no extra holes in receiver, marbles ramp rear site, forearm 10 3/8" long with end cap.
3. FYI also have a marlin 336a in same cal.
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Bert H.
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Posted - 11/17/2009 :  12:15:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kylew

Bert, I have two 94's
1. ser #1618059, 20" carbine, upper tang no markings only one large screw at end of tang, no mount holes in receiver for site, barrel marking MODEL 94-32 W.S.- winchester proof steel, rounded milled bands, full length mag, flat checkered steel butt plate, forearm is 9 3/16" long.
2. (out of range just fyi) 26" rifle ser#485345, oct barrel, full length mag, barrel mark ---nickel steel barrel--- especially for smokeless powder, cal 32 W.S. upper tang marks model 1894 -WINCHESTER-
trade mark reg in us pat off, two screw holes one for site, no extra holes in receiver, marbles ramp rear site, forearm 10 3/8" long with end cap.
3. FYI also have a marlin 336a in same cal.



Hello Kyle,

Thanks for sharing the information on your Winchesters.

Serial 1618059 was manufactured mid year 1949, and it appears to be a standard production Carbine.

Serial 485345 was manufactured in February of the year 1911, and it appears to be a standard Sporting Rifle.

Of the two, the older Sporting Rifle is the more valuable.

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fourbie
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Posted - 11/17/2009 :  03:55:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
survey input ....
mdl 94 s/n: 1571465
caliber marking: 30 W.C.F.
butt plate: flat checkered steel
tang marking: blank
factory drilled for peep sight: no
US martial or PCMR: unknown--how to tell?
Proof steel marking: yes
saddle ring: no
barrel band: milled

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Bert H.
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Posted - 11/17/2009 :  1:53:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fourbie

survey input ....
mdl 94 s/n: 1571465
caliber marking: 30 W.C.F.
butt plate: flat checkered steel
tang marking: blank
factory drilled for peep sight: no
US martial or PCMR: unknown--how to tell?
Proof steel marking: yes
saddle ring: no
barrel band: milled



Thank you very much for the information.

Your Model 94 Carbine was manufactured in the very early months of the year 1949.

The U.S. marked Carbines will have a "U S" and a flaming ordnance bomb stamped on the top of the frame ring. The PCMR Carbines have a broad arrow stamp on the lower left side of the receiver frame and on the butt stock. All of the PCMR Carbines were made in 1942.

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fourbie
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Posted - 11/17/2009 :  7:16:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the input Bert. this firearm has neither the US martial nor PCMR marking as you might expect.

It is surprising, or maybe not, that this firearm shoots amazingly accurately. I presume it would be more valuable but at some point I apparently set on someone's truck floorboard and apparent condensation has caused some oxidation on one side. I suppose it could be refinished. would refinishing be appropriate or detrimental to it value?

thanks in advance.


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Bert H.
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Posted - 11/18/2009 :  01:33:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fourbie

Thanks for the input Bert. this firearm has neither the US martial nor PCMR marking as you might expect.

It is surprising, or maybe not, that this firearm shoots amazingly accurately. I presume it would be more valuable but at some point I apparently set on someone's truck floorboard and apparent condensation has caused some oxidation on one side. I suppose it could be refinished. would refinishing be appropriate or detrimental to it value?

thanks in advance.


You are quite welcome.

Ordinarily, refinishing a pre-64 Winchester is detrimental to the value. Without the benefit of actually seeing your Carbine, it is impossible to say what the best course of action should be. If you are able, please post a few pictures of it.

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Pembine
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Posted - 11/18/2009 :  11:10:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bert , I have a model 94 serial # 1060101 nickel steel-32W.S. Type 6 , Milled band, carbine buttplate. I have had the gun since 65 or so and it still shoots nice and is a joy to carry in the swamps. hope this is useful to you
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Posted - 11/18/2009 :  11:01:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pembine

Hi Bert , I have a model 94 serial # 1060101 nickel steel-32W.S. Type 6 , Milled band, carbine buttplate. I have had the gun since 65 or so and it still shoots nice and is a joy to carry in the swamps. hope this is useful to you



Hello Pembine and thank you for sharing the information on your Eastern Carbine.

The serial number places the DOM in December 1929. I assume that it has standard carbine style sights (the milled steel block w/pinned blade front sight, and the flip-up ladder style rear sight)?

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Magic051
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Posted - 11/25/2009 :  10:36:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert,

I own a Model 94 32 Win Special, Serial #2039217 which I believe dates it to 1954. It is in pristine condition however, I do not have the original box or anything else.
Caliber Stamp: -32 WIN.SPL.-
Butt Plate: Flat Checkered Steel
Upper Tang Marking: None
Receiver: Yes, drilled & tapped for a peep sight
No U.S. or PCMR markings
Proof Steel marked barrel
No Saddel Ring
It has the initials DK stamped just ahead of the trigger
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Bert H.
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Posted - 11/25/2009 :  2:27:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Magic051

Bert,

I own a Model 94 32 Win Special, Serial #2039217 which I believe dates it to 1954. It is in pristine condition however, I do not have the original box or anything else.
Caliber Stamp: -32 WIN.SPL.-
Butt Plate: Flat Checkered Steel
Upper Tang Marking: None
Receiver: Yes, drilled & tapped for a peep sight
No U.S. or PCMR markings
Proof Steel marked barrel
No Saddel Ring
It has the initials DK stamped just ahead of the trigger



My research (thus far) puts it at the tail end of 1953. If you are willing and able, please check to see what the 2-digit year number is that is stamped on the bottom of the barrel (under the forend stock & magazine tube). It could be either a "53" or a "54".

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Edited by - Bert H. on 11/26/2009 12:57:17 PM
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Magic051
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Posted - 11/26/2009 :  11:02:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert,

The stamp under the forearm on the barrel is 53........

Derek
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Bert H.
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Posted - 11/26/2009 :  12:54:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Magic051

Bert,

The stamp under the forearm on the barrel is 53........

Derek



Hello Derek,

Thank you for checking it. Your finding confirms what I suspected, and it more positively points towards it being a late 1953 production carbine.

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Edited by - Bert H. on 11/26/2009 12:58:27 PM
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kevind6
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Posted - 12/02/2009 :  7:00:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is another one you can add to your survey...
1). Serial # 1293730
2). 30 W.C.F.
3). Serrated steel butt plate
4). Type 7
5). No peep sight holes drilled
6). No U.S. or arrow markings
7). Winchester Proof Steel marked on barrel
8). No saddle ring
10). I actually thought the first letter in the serial # was an "L", so yes

It does have a milled barrel ring as well. It also has a stamped number "40" just forward of the trigger on the bottom of the receiver. I'm guessing that would be a year of manufacture?? If so, it is a couple of years older than the age estimates I've seen.

BTW, I've learned a lot on this thread.

Thanks,

Kevin

Edited by - kevind6 on 12/02/2009 7:04:52 PM
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Bert H.
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Posted - 12/02/2009 :  11:01:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kevind6

Here is another one you can add to your survey...
1). Serial # 1293730
2). 30 W.C.F.
3). Serrated steel butt plate
4). Type 7
5). No peep sight holes drilled
6). No U.S. or arrow markings
7). Winchester Proof Steel marked on barrel
8). No saddle ring
10). I actually thought the first letter in the serial # was an "L", so yes

It does have a milled barrel ring as well. It also has a stamped number "40" just forward of the trigger on the bottom of the receiver. I'm guessing that would be a year of manufacture?? If so, it is a couple of years older than the age estimates I've seen.

BTW, I've learned a lot on this thread.

Thanks,

Kevin



Hello Kevin,

Thank you very much for the information. This topic post was intended to be educational for all... including myself.

Model 94 number 1293730 was serialized in August of 1941, and it was assembled sometime after that date. The "40" stamp you are referring to is an inspectors stamp (for final fit & function).

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Edited by - Bert H. on 12/02/2009 11:06:55 PM
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iweb
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Posted - 12/03/2009 :  10:37:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Model 94 - 32 WIN SPL
1837156
checkered
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Bert H.
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Posted - 12/04/2009 :  01:39:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iweb

Model 94 - 32 WIN SPL
1837156
checkered



Thank you for posting

Is the receiver drilled & tapped for a peep sight? (I suspect that it is not, but would like to confirm that).

The serial number indicates that the receiver was serialized in the latter half of the year 1951.

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wilmamae
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Posted - 12/04/2009 :  04:01:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bert, This one belongs to a friend. It's a bit before the range you seek but here it is, Ser# 958847 marked 30 wcf Nickle steel especialy for smokeless carbine butt reciever not drilled but tang is type 5 tang markings buckhorn rear sight milled band that is in front of the front sight long fore arm I've not seen one set up with the band here before, the front sight is a small forging integeral with the barrel Swanie
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Posted - 12/04/2009 :  07:41:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No it is not drilled and thanks!
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Posted - 12/04/2009 :  11:48:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wilmamae

Hi Bert, This one belongs to a friend. It's a bit before the range you seek but here it is, Ser# 958847 marked 30 wcf Nickle steel especialy for smokeless carbine butt reciever not drilled but tang is type 5 tang markings buckhorn rear sight milled band that is in front of the front sight long fore arm I've not seen one set up with the band here before, the front sight is a small forging integeral with the barrel Swanie



Model 94 serial 958847 was manufactured in the month of May, 1923. The front barrel band location you are referring to is normal for all of the Carbines that were manufactured starting in late 1894, all the way through early 1932 (April). When Winchester made the switch to the ramp style front sight in early 1932, they moved the barrel band behind the ramp.

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gearheaddad
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Posted - 12/10/2009 :  08:48:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good morning Bert,
A dandy little 94 SRC fell into my lap yesterday!
Serial#949284
Nickel steel barrel 32W.S.
Carbine butt
All factory original conservatively 80% but missing the ring. The stud is there however.
What year do your records show she was born? What price range are the SRC's running in this economy?
Thanks,
Ed

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quote:
Originally posted by gearheaddad

Good morning Bert,
A dandy little 94 SRC fell into my lap yesterday!
Serial#949284
Nickel steel barrel 32W.S.
Carbine butt
All factory original conservatively 80% but missing the ring. The stud is there however.
What year do your records show she was born? What price range are the SRC's running in this economy?
Thanks,
Ed



Hello Ed,

Late November, 1922 (serial number 949494 was the last Model 94 serialized on November 29th, 1922).

At 80% but with a missing SR, and being a 32 W.S., it is worth about $750.

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gearheaddad
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Posted - 12/10/2009 :  11:22:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Bert!!
Ed

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bulldogger
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Posted - 12/10/2009 :  6:31:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bert i'm new here i have a model 64 30 W.C.F Serial#299241
can't find any infor. about it.
19.5" barrel
proof steel
No SR
tang plate Model 1894 Winchester trade mark


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Hi Bert i'm new here i have a model 64 30 W.C.F Serial#299241
can't find any infor. about it.
19.5" barrel
proof steel
No SR
tang plate Model 1894 Winchester trade mark



Hello,

Unfortunately what you actually have is an early 1906 vintage Model 1894 Sporting Rifle that was rebarreled with a Model 64 Carbine barrel. The fact that the barrel is marked "30 W.C.F." indicates that it a 1933 - 1950 vintage barrel. If you are really curious, remove the forend stock and magazine tube, and you should find a 2-digit year number stamped on the bottom of the barrel very near to where it threads into the frame ring.

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bulldogger
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Posted - 12/10/2009 :  11:06:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Bert for the infor. I will check the barrel out to see what it is.
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quote:
Originally posted by bulldogger

Thanks Bert for the infor. I will check the barrel out to see what it is.



You are quite welcome.

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Posted - 12/10/2009 :  11:27:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 2 digit #39
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Posted - 12/11/2009 :  12:01:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bulldogger

The 2 digit #39



That confirms what I mentioned before... you have a much later Model 64 barrel on an early Model 1894 receiver frame.

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kylew
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Posted - 12/12/2009 :  9:12:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert, Here is another one. MODEL 94-30-30 WIN-. proof steel, no tang marks, no peep drilling, milled carbine bands, short forearm, checkered butt, hooded front site. Ser#1853222X the X appears to be factory. I don't know much but I have never seen one with a letter. Blue is 90%+ but has smooth wear from a saddle scabbard. Kyle
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quote:
Originally posted by kylew

Bert, Here is another one. MODEL 94-30-30 WIN-. proof steel, no tang marks, no peep drilling, milled carbine bands, short forearm, checkered butt, hooded front site. Ser#1853222X the X appears to be factory. I don't know much but I have never seen one with a letter. Blue is 90%+ but has smooth wear from a saddle scabbard. Kyle



Hello Kyle,

Thank you very much for posting the information on your Winchester.

The serial number tells me that it is a relatively late year 1951 production Model 94. The "X" on the end of the serial number is factory stamped, and it tells us that it was a duplicate serial number. The automatic indexing system on the serial number stamping machine on rare occasion would apparently malfunction, resulting in two (or more) receivers being stamped with the same number. When that happened, an "X" or "XX" was added to the end of the serial number. Winchester began that practice sometime during the 1940s. Your Model 94 is the 6th one I have in my survey with the "X" suffix, and it is very close to one other (1854060X). I suspect that the serial number machine may have been in need of some maintenance work at that time.

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kylew
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Posted - 12/13/2009 :  10:52:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert, Thank you for the info. I will have data on more 94's to follow. Kyle
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Bert H.
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Posted - 12/13/2009 :  11:36:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kylew

Bert, Thank you for the info. I will have data on more 94's to follow. Kyle



Hello Kyle,

Thank you, and I will look forward to your next post.

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zink
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Posted - 12/22/2009 :  10:22:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert, Know you don't really need it but I just picked this one for $150 in 85%. Winchester 94, 30-30 WIN, drilled for receiver sights, no tang marks, hooded sight, ser # 1938233.

Lance

Edited by - zink on 12/22/2009 10:23:50 PM
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Posted - 12/22/2009 :  11:15:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Lance,

Actually, I do need it... along with any other serial number that is in the 1,000,000 to 2,700,000 range.

Thanks for posting the information

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Posted - 12/23/2009 :  5:53:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Forgot, checkered steel butt plate, no ring.

Lance
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Posted - 12/25/2009 :  7:22:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bert. I am new to 94's and to Forum's as well. I hope I am doing this correctly. I also Emailed you the following information but after reading all the other posts, I thought others might find the information useful, (or not..LOL)

My "new to me" gun is:
S/N 1394209
94-30 W.C.F.-
Checkered steel butt plate
Blank top plate, only one screw at/near the tip
Not drilled for peep site
No PCMR or Martial
Proof Steel
NO saddle ring
Flat band

I hope this informatiuon is useful to you and perhaps to others who may be researching their own firearm

Tim G.
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Posted - 12/26/2009 :  12:54:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by tgellatly

Hi Bert. I am new to 94's and to Forum's as well. I hope I am doing this correctly. I also Emailed you the following information but after reading all the other posts, I thought others might find the information useful, (or not..LOL)

My "new to me" gun is:
S/N 1394209
94-30 W.C.F.-
Checkered steel butt plate
Blank top plate, only one screw at/near the tip
Not drilled for peep site
No PCMR or Martial
Proof Steel
NO saddle ring
Flat band

I hope this informatiuon is useful to you and perhaps to others who may be researching their own firearm

Tim G.



Hello Tim,

Yes indeed, it is quite useful, and thank you very much for posting it.

Based on the serial number, your Model 94 was manufactured in the late months of the year 1946 (most likely October). It should be a "flat-band" carbine, and based on your desription, it is a standard catalog gun.

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tommix2
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Posted - 01/04/2010 :  3:01:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BERT,

Here is the info on the rifle that I am thinking about buying from my friend.

1. 1610299
2. 30 W.C.F.
3. After market Pachmayr
4. No tang markings
5. Yes, Factory Drilled, missing screws
6. No markings
7. "Winchester Proof Steel"
8. No saddle ring
9. N/A
10. N/A
11. N/A, milled band
12. N/A 9-1/8" forend

It also has a stamp on the bottom of the receiver just in front of the trigger which reads BF. The B is very clear but the F is somewhat of a guess.

I would like to send you pics for evaluation but not sure how to attach them.
I want to be up front with my friend and pay a fair price that both of us are comfortable with. Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you for your efforts in this survey.

Kelly
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Posted - 01/04/2010 :  8:26:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tommix2

BERT,

Here is the info on the rifle that I am thinking about buying from my friend.

1. 1610299
2. 30 W.C.F.
3. After market Pachmayr
4. No tang markings
5. Yes, Factory Drilled, missing screws
6. No markings
7. "Winchester Proof Steel"
8. No saddle ring
9. N/A
10. N/A
11. N/A, milled band
12. N/A 9-1/8" forend

It also has a stamp on the bottom of the receiver just in front of the trigger which reads BF. The B is very clear but the F is somewhat of a guess.

I would like to send you pics for evaluation but not sure how to attach them.
I want to be up front with my friend and pay a fair price that both of us are comfortable with. Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you for your efforts in this survey.

Kelly



Hello Kelly,

Your friend has a mid-year 1949 vintage Model 94. Unfortunately, it is very unlikely that the drilled & tapped holes in the receiver are factory original, or that the Pachmayr recoil pad is original.

The "BF" near the trigger is an inspection stamp that was stamped on the gun during the assembly and fitting process.

Because of the probable non-factory alterations, it forever relegates that old Model 94 to being a "shooter" grade gun, and the value is most likely in the $250 - $300 range.

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tommix2
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Posted - 01/04/2010 :  10:07:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Bert for your feedback. Good luck with the continuing survey.

Kelly
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Posted - 01/05/2010 :  12:32:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by tommix2

Thank you Bert for your feedback. Good luck with the continuing survey.

Kelly



Thank you as well.

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adkjaq
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Posted - 01/06/2010 :  06:14:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a 30 SRC, # 931306. carbine butt, unfired I believe, 30wcf

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Posted - 01/06/2010 :  09:28:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adkjaq

I have a 30 SRC, # 931306. carbine butt, unfired I believe, 30wcf



Your SRC was manufactured in early August of 1921, and there is no such thing as an "unfired" Winchester. Winchester fired the gun at least twice with proof loads, and then another 6-8 shots to set the sights.

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