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Originally posted by adkjaq

Another 30 WCF, SRC 1013904

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Originally posted by middlefork

Hi Bert.

Model 94
#1491059
25-35 W.C.F.
Not martial marked
Flat Band
standard sights
recvr not drilled/tapped
flat checked buttplate
blank top tang, single screw
straight cut serrated hammer
have not checked date on bottom of barrel

I am interesting in knowing if the factory changed bluing solution or application methods pre-War, during or post War. I ask this because there seems to be nice blue retention on pre War band/magazine tubes while the flat band period seem to have more brown/plum flat bands/magazine tubes.
Thanks for all your work and information here.
Lee

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Originally posted by Mahely4.5

I went to see a 94 today at a pawn shop. The owner said it is a pre WW2, but after researching the serial number turns out to be 1942.

Serial number 1207204
Carbine
Milled Band
Type 6 tang stamp, two screws
.32 Win Special
No saddle ring
Can't say about proof marks,

Question. Are tang marks not indicative of older models than 1942?

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Originally posted by Mahely4.5

I went back today and checked it out. Yes, indeed, type 7 tang inscription (without the lines) and also a W underneath the serial number.

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Originally posted by chw

I sent info earlier on a 1946 ser. no. 94. I thought I would include an earlier one just for info. ser. no. 910800 saddle ring carbine with ladder sight and lyman tang sight 30wfc. 90 plus percent no marks on wood bluing wear on reciver almost plumb color now.

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Originally posted by yellowdog52

OK here goes

1. 537095 (manufactured January 1912)
2. 30 W.C.F no model 94 preceeding it
3. concave steel (most likely it is a crescent "rifle" butt)
4. type 5 but no &FGN after (it is a Type-3 upper tang marking)
5. not drilled and tapped
6. not martially marked
7. nickle steel barrel
8. no saddle ring (because it most likely is a Sporting Rifle versus a Carbine)


1. 1388364 (manufactured in the second half of the year 1946)
2.model 94 - 30 W.C.F. -
3. checkered steel
4. blank tang
5. not drilled for peep
6. not martially marked
7. proof steel
8. no saddle ring
9. no W
11. flat band
Completely standard for its vintage


1. 1142465 (manufactured in September of 1937)
2. model 94 - winchester trademark - 30 W.C.F. -
3. serrated steel
4. type 6
5. not drilled for peep
6. not martially marked
7. proof steel
8. no saddle ring
Completely standard for its vintage


1. 1107790 (manufactured in May of 1936)
2. winchester trademark - 30 W.C.F. -
3. carbine steel
4. type 6
5. not drilled for peep
6. not martially marked
7. proof steel
8. no saddle ring
Completely standard for its vintage


1. 2469226 [blue](manufactured in early 1961)
2. winchester trademark - model - 94 - 32 win spl -
3. checkered steel
4. blank tang
5. drilled and tapped for peep
6. not martially marked
7. proof steel
8. no saddle ring
Completely standard for its vintage[/blue]

Very interesting stuff. Please comment on anything of note with these guns.

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Originally posted by heywood

hi bert i have a mod94 win in 32 special ser#2353690..it is drilled for a peep sight it had a recoil pad on that i removed hope to find the correct metal butt plate at agun show,it has md stamped in front of the trigger .32 win spl on the barrel winchester proof steel also ..thanx for a very interesting site

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Originally posted by heywood

would you like to sell it

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Originally posted by kylew

Bert, Have one more. Ser# 2034413, -MODEL-94-30-30-WIN, Proof steel, checkered butt plate, receiver drilled for peep site, No tang marking, Milled bands, short forearm, hooded front site, std 20" carbine, full length tube, finish 85% some pitting, bore good. Have a good day. Kyle

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Originally posted by kylew

Bert, You may be correct about the 19" barrel. I did compare it to another take down and the two dove tails are the correct distance from the muzzle. It would have to been cut off more than 4" to remove the old dove tails. Anyway I did not pay big bucks for it because of the refinish. Either way it's a neat gun and I liked it. I'm still learning. Thanks for your input. Kyle

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Originally posted by zagman_420

I dont know much about these guns but yesterday I picked this one up for $10 figured even if I cant do anything with it so what it was only $10! haha the SN is 1188700 its in pretty bad shape as you can see. Just wondering what year it was made and if it would be worth fixing. thanks for your time.


p.s. im not interested in fixing it up to sell just wondering how much it might cost to make shootable

And yes i got it from a tweeker!!!

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Originally posted by rec0546

survey input ....
mdl 94 s/n: 1595339
caliber marking: 30 W.C.F.
butt plate: flat checkered steel
tang marking: blank
factory drilled for peep sight: no
US martial or PCMR: no
Proof steel marking: yes
saddle ring: no
barrel band: milled

Question: I have a model 12 made in 1940 (serial 824389) that has the "W" stamp below the serial number. Do you think it means the same thing as on the model 94 (factory refinish)?

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Originally posted by ih8chrome

Hi everybody My uncle left me his model 64 30wcf. I think its from the mid 1950's. Is there anything I can do about rust and minor pitting? How can I find out if is the deluxe? This rifle means a lot to me and I want to bring it back to it's former glory. Thanks for your help SN 1371217 before i forget on the barrel above the factory mark there is a little "post" with the word "marble" on it. What is this for?

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Originally posted by Tom Lee A

Hi Bert,

I have a Model 94 30 WCF carbine that has the nickle barrel and saddle ring. The serial number is #8998xx. The butt plate is the steel one. Would you tell me when this rifle was built?

Also, the rear site is not original. Do you know of a source that would have the correct site available? The stock is a dark color and it appears that someone tried an amateur job of refinishing. I'm not in the market to sell it, so the stock is not a big deal to me as far as ruining the resale value. I would like to get it back to the original as far as the sight goes though.

Thanks for any info you have.

Tom

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Originally posted by zink

Got one for ya, Bert,

I know it wasn't sent this way but here she goes;

Ser # 26721 (the 2nd 2 is upside down, same style)
BBL is octogon 21 3/4"
3/4 mag
long rifle type forend w/tip
folding sight with slide bar
no saddle ring
30 WCF, marked on top flat infront of receiver
Only markings under barrel are- .NS. VP (in oval) 94 and a star.
Tang is marked-

Model 1894
-WINCHESTER-
PAT AUG 21, 1894

Lance

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Originally posted by zink

Got one for ya, Bert,

I know it wasn't sent this way but here she goes;

Ser # 26721 (the 2nd 2 is upside down, same style)
BBL is octogon 21 3/4"
3/4 mag
long rifle type forend w/tip
folding sight with slide bar
no saddle ring
30 WCF, marked on top flat infront of receiver
Only markings under barrel are- .NS. VP (in oval) 94 and a star.
Tang is marked-

Model 1894
-WINCHESTER-
PAT AUG 21, 1894

Lance

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Can you send me a picture of the serial number?

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Originally posted by scout32flc

Bert
I sent an email to your MSN account with pics. Are you the one That looked at my gun last night through a collector site

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Originally posted by Odawgp

1. 1,117,214
2. Mine is stamped from left to right
-"winchester (over) proof steel"- MODEL 94- WINCHESTER (over) -trade mark--30 w.c.f
3. Serrated steel butt plate as seen in your picture
4. Type 7
5. No
6. No
7. Yes "proof steel"
8. No
9-14 N/A
Although there is an "A" stamped on the bottom of the receiver inside the trigger guard/loop just in front of the trigger

Mine also has a milled barrel band as seen in your pictures

Bert Any Idea of date of manuf and approximate value?

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Originally posted by Bert H.
It should have the Type-6 marking (with the dashes preceeding and following the text on the second and third lines).

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Originally posted by foooootz

Bert,

My grandfather passed along this Model 94, .30 W.C.F. and I figured I would see what info I could find out about it.

1. 205357
2. .30 W.C.F.
3 Carbine Butt Plate
4. Based on the pictures I think it's a Type 5

Not sure about the rest except that there is no saddle ring. Thanks

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Originally posted by drl50

See you've been on this interesting project awhile.Don't know if you need more data, but here's a Mod 64 for your list.

1554358
-MODEL 64-32W.S.-
Butt: Checkered steel(widows peak same as 70 and 71)
Blank tang
factory drilled-yes
N/A No martial or PCMR marking
-WINCHESTER PROOF STEEL-
N/A No ring
band N/A
Deer Rifle w/checker, detach swivels etc
DV stamp just forward of trigger

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