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checkerman1
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Posted - 05/08/2010 :  3:30:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bert,,have 3 64's ,

md-64 deluxe ser.# 1582637,30W.C.F.,rec.drilled,chkrd.stl.wdows pk. butt
md 64dlx. ser.# 1761090,32 WIN. SPL.- rec-drld. same butt as above,

md.64 std. ser#1660965,32 W.S.-rec.drld. same butt,proof steel,no tang mark on all three,and all 3 are proof steel,

Hope this helps some,
rich
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Bert H.
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Posted - 05/08/2010 :  6:17:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by checkerman1

bert,,have 3 64's ,

md-64 deluxe ser.# 1582637,30W.C.F.,rec.drilled,chkrd.stl.wdows pk. butt
md 64dlx. ser.# 1761090,32 WIN. SPL.- rec-drld. same butt as above,

md.64 std. ser#1660965,32 W.S.-rec.drld. same butt,proof steel,no tang mark on all three,and all 3 are proof steel,

Hope this helps some,
rich



Hello Rich,

Thank you very for posting the information on your Model 64s, and Yes indeed, it helps a lot

1. Serial 1582637 is a 1949 vintage
2. Serial 1660965 is a 1950 vintage
3. Serial 1761090 is a 1951 vintage

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kylew
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Posted - 05/11/2010 :  1:02:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert, Have another 1894 here. This is my best one I just acquired. Came from the "B" collection recently sold. A high dollar gun. Ser# 287209 (letterable) Deer rifle, Deluxe, 26" full oct barrel, Double set triggers, Take down, Front site Lyman flip up hooded peep type, rear barrel site std marbles ramp type, Tang site Lyman #2 with the little flip out peep site, Cal 32W.S. Deluxe burl wood factory checkered stocks. Pistol grip, Finish 95% with 50% case color remaining in the lever. Finish all original triggers function perfect, bore very good or better.
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Posted - 05/11/2010 :  2:21:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Kyle,

If you have not lettered it, you should. Please let me know what the received in warehouse date was whne you get the letter.

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kylew
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Posted - 05/11/2010 :  2:55:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert, I plan to. If I understand it correctly there were only 118 TD rifles made of the first 350,000. Is that correct? Kyle
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quote:
Originally posted by kylew

Bert, I plan to. If I understand it correctly there were only 118 TD rifles made of the first 350,000. Is that correct? Kyle



No, that is not correct. Please refer to my Sticky post about the Model 1894... nearly 27,000 Take Down Rifles were made in the first 353,999 Model 1894s manufactured. The (118) number is only those that are listed as having a second factory supplied barrel assembly.

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mrfixit65
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Posted - 05/17/2010 :  8:21:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Model 94
1335063
94-32W.S.
Serrated steel
type 7
Not drilled
Milled band

Model 1894 sporting
286670
full Octagon
full magazine
32W.S.
Nickel steel Barrel
drilled for lyman's sight , marked Lyman's Pat.JUNE 25,95
rear sight missing
June
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quote:
Originally posted by mrfixit65

Model 94
1335063
94-32W.S.
Serrated steel
type 7
Not drilled
Milled band

Model 1894 sporting
286670
full Octagon
full magazine
32W.S.
Nickel steel Barrel
drilled for lyman's sight , marked Lyman's Pat.JUNE 25,95
rear sight missing
June



Serial 1335063 is a May 1942 vintage gun, and it is completely standard.

Serial 286670 is a standard Sporting Rifle, manufactured in late 1905 (November).

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kylew
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Posted - 05/18/2010 :  7:01:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert, Regarding the 94 listed a few posts up.. Ser #287209 Friend was in Denver last week. He checked with the lady from Cody who was there. Had her laptop and found the following. Of course is not a factory letter but she did confirm the following. Ship date 1-15-08 and order # R&R on 11-8-15 and order # Confirms all of the special features Butt listed as SBR correct, barrel correct, double set correct, stock CS and PG correct, takedown correct. This little 94 is getting better FYI Finish org 95%+ Kyle
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Bert H.
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Posted - 05/18/2010 :  10:06:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Kyle,

It appears you have a true winner... all of those special order features add serious $$$ to the collector value. If you are able, I would appreciate seeing pictures of it sometime.

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kylew
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Posted - 05/18/2010 :  10:36:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert, I will work on it. I've never done that before. My son will help an old guy give it a go. Thanks Kyle
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kylew
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Posted - 05/20/2010 :  7:17:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert in the mean time, Here is one that is in the middle where you are looking. Ser #1223251 Std carbine, 30 W.C.F., serrated butt plate, milled bands, no drilling, sites look std, I look at the post to give you the tang type. Blue book says 42 but I think you will say 39 DOM. My friend will be at the show in Cody in a few weeks. He will look for another "holder" for me. I want a "war" gun. Kyle
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kylew
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Posted - 05/20/2010 :  11:28:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Opps, forgot It does have the W. Kyle
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Bert H.
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Posted - 05/21/2010 :  09:50:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kylew

Bert in the mean time, Here is one that is in the middle where you are looking. Ser #1223251 Std carbine, 30 W.C.F., serrated butt plate, milled bands, no drilling, sites look std, I look at the post to give you the tang type. Blue book says 42 but I think you will say 39 DOM. My friend will be at the show in Cody in a few weeks. He will look for another "holder" for me. I want a "war" gun. Kyle



Hello Kyle,

Thanks for the new data

Serial number 1223251 went through the Polishing room in March of 1940, and it should have the Type-7 upper tang stamp.

In order to have a "War" gun (I assume you mean WW II), you will need to find one in the 1303819 - 1352066 serial range (December 1st, 1941 - December 29th, 1945)

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kylew
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Posted - 05/24/2010 :  12:05:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert, First- Yes it has a type 7 tang mark. As far as the "War" guns go I have a couple from the WW1 years a couple from Korea and one from Vietnam years. Since WW2 generally is thought to have started on 8 Dec. 41 and ended on 9 Sept 45. I have kinda figured that the range would be from 1,305,000 to 1,345,000. Isn't 40,000 about the right number produced? And wasn't most of these made for the civilian guards- the one who watched our coasts for U boats and Japanese subs? I have read that these civilians were to shoot at any periscope spotted off the coast. I do know that the Japanese had big plans to launch chemical weapons on Washington DC and NYC. They had built several subs that carried 3 planes each the I-400 and I-401 were a couple of these. They were in route to the East coast when we bombed Japan. Kyle
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Posted - 05/24/2010 :  2:27:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kylew

Bert, First- Yes it has a type 7 tang mark. As far as the "War" guns go I have a couple from the WW1 years a couple from Korea and one from Vietnam years. Since WW2 generally is thought to have started on 8 Dec. 41 and ended on 9 Sept 45. I have kinda figured that the range would be from 1,305,000 to 1,345,000. Isn't 40,000 about the right number produced? And wasn't most of these made for the civilian guards- the one who watched our coasts for U boats and Japanese subs? I have read that these civilians were to shoot at any periscope spotted off the coast. I do know that the Japanese had big plans to launch chemical weapons on Washington DC and NYC. They had built several subs that carried 3 planes each the I-400 and I-401 were a couple of these. They were in route to the East coast when we bombed Japan. Kyle



Hello Kyle,

Given the time period you specify, the serial range you want to search for is 1303818 - 1343510 (December 1st, 1942 - September 28th, 1945).

Yes, 40,000 is very close to the number made during WW II, but very few of them were made for, or used by, civilian guard units. The only known WW II Model 94s that were specifically made for such use were the 2,500 that were ordered and delivered to the Pacific Coast Militia Rangers (P.C.M.R.) in the Candian Province of British Columbia. Those guns were all made and delivered in 1942 (serial number range 1317167 - 1342533).

During the WW II years, the bulk of the 40,000 guns were made in 1942 (29,882). That said, 1943 was the only year in which there was a Zero production number. In 1944, just (13) were made, all in November. Regular production resumed in June of 1945 at serial number 1343197, and ended with serial number 1352066 on December 29th, 1945.

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rockscrambler
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Posted - 05/31/2010 :  06:17:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i aquired 1 several years ago the serial# starts w a 5 i know for sure i think it is 7 digits i'll check when i get home. if it is do you still want the rest of the info or is it not usefull info to you
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quote:
Originally posted by rockscrambler

i aquired 1 several years ago the serial# starts w a 5 i know for sure i think it is 7 digits i'll check when i get home. if it is do you still want the rest of the info or is it not usefull info to you



Hello,

If the serial number is 5,000,000+, then no, it is not useful to my survey. Thanks for asking though.


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kylew
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Posted - 06/16/2010 :  5:03:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert, I have a new one in my lap that may interest you. Model 1894 32WS Ser# 107731. You have this gun listed in your "facts" list. According to the factory letter and other info this gun was the very first gun made in that cal. Ship date 10-5-01. This gun is a "test" gun. Is was "Taken to Mr Wheeler for excessive testing" R&R in 06 and again in 14. I know that by ser# you have 27,158 listed as the first but it was shipped almost 2 years later than this one. I have additional info. Tell me what you think. I would guess that you have layed your eyes on this gun before. Kyle
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Bert H.
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Posted - 06/17/2010 :  02:58:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Kyle,

Did you recently buy that rifle from Russ? I am in Cody, WY as I write this, and will be in the research office for several hours tomorrow (Thursday).

I would like any additional information available, and yes, I did see the rifle a few years ago.

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kylew
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Posted - 06/17/2010 :  09:45:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It came back from Cody last week. I was not there. The gun came to me from a friend who was there, Paul. I assume he got it from Russ in a complex 5 gun trade. Paul really just likes 30 WCF and he knows I like 32's. Kyle
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kylew
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Posted - 06/18/2010 :  4:25:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Bert , I looks like you posted a reply to my last post but it never showed up. Thanks Kyle
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Posted - 06/19/2010 :  10:42:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Kyle,

I spoke with Russ, and he confirmed that Paul V. got the rifle for you.

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kylew
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Posted - 07/07/2010 :  12:11:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert, I'm going to look at another 94 that came from Cody. ser#400K has supposed factory engraved and matted barrel 3X wood. Paul said if it was letterable would be 6 fig apparently is that good. I'll let you know
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Posted - 07/07/2010 :  5:39:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kylew

Bert, I'm going to look at another 94 that came from Cody. ser#400K has supposed factory engraved and matted barrel 3X wood. Paul said if it was letterable would be 6 fig apparently is that good. I'll let you know



Kyle,

I will need to see very clear close-up pictures of it to properly assess it.



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53hawkeye
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  9:17:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Bert,
Nothing real pressing tonight so while on a cleaning mission I recorded all info pertinent to your inquiry.

Oldest first.

782769/ .30 W.C.F. / carbine style butt pl / type 4 / not drilled for Peep / 6. none marked
nickel steel / has saddle ring (and leather strap even)

1,633,154 / mod. 94 .30 W.C.F. / not known (customized) / none (customized) / not drilled
6. not mkd / proof steel / no saddle ring / milled bbl band

2,386,436 / mod. 94 30-30 Win. / chkd stl / no tang mkg / drilled for peep / prf stl / no saddle ring

2,474,484 / mod. 94 30-30 Win. / chkd stl / drilled for peep / prf stl / no saddle ring

2,558,376 / mod. 94 30-30 Win. / chkd stl / drilled for peep / prf stl / no saddle ring


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quote:
Originally posted by 53hawkeye

Hey Bert,
Nothing real pressing tonight so while on a cleaning mission I recorded all info pertinent to your inquiry.

Oldest first.

782769/ .30 W.C.F. / carbine style butt pl / type 4 / not drilled for Peep / 6. none marked
nickel steel / has saddle ring (and leather strap even)

1,633,154 / mod. 94 .30 W.C.F. / not known (customized) / none (customized) / not drilled
6. not mkd / proof steel / no saddle ring / milled bbl band

2,386,436 / mod. 94 30-30 Win. / chkd stl / no tang mkg / drilled for peep / prf stl / no saddle ring

2,474,484 / mod. 94 30-30 Win. / chkd stl / drilled for peep / prf stl / no saddle ring

2,558,376 / mod. 94 30-30 Win. / chkd stl / drilled for peep / prf stl / no saddle ring


Happy Trails




Hello Hawkeye,

Thank you very much for participating in my survey... every single one of them suveyed helps to fill in the giant puzzle.

1. Per the PRSRB, serial 782769 is a June 1915 vintage SRC.

2. Serial 1663154 is an early 1950 vintage standard Carbine. It would be very interesting to know if it has a "49" marked barrel or a "50" marked barrel.

3. Serial 2386436 is a late 1959 production Carbine

4. Serial 2474484 is a mid year 1961 production Carbine.

5. Serial 2558376 is a latter half of the year 1962 production Carbine.

I do not have verifiable records for the later made Model 94s, so the information I have given to you is my best estimate.


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53hawkeye
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Posted - 07/20/2010 :  8:29:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sir,

Where would I look for the 49 or 50 mark for carbine # 2? Hope it isn't engraved over.

Here are a couple pics of gun in question. My fil did the engraving. It was his personal '94. He was self taught. There wasn't much he didn't do. Engraving, scrimshaw, knifemaking, stockbuilding, ivory carving. He was an amazing person.











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Hello 53hawkeye,

It appears that your father in-law was a talented fellow.

The 2-digit date stamp is on the bottom of the barrel (under the forend stock & magazine tube). It looks like this...




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goatman1
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Posted - 05/24/2010 : 2:27:59 PM
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quote:
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Originally posted by kylew

Bert, First- Yes it has a type 7 tang mark. As far as the "War" guns go I have a couple from the WW1 years a couple from Korea and one from Vietnam years. Since WW2 generally is thought to have started on 8 Dec. 41 and ended on 9 Sept 45. I have kinda figured that the range would be from 1,305,000 to 1,345,000. Isn't 40,000 about the right number produced? And wasn't most of these made for the civilian guards- the one who watched our coasts for U boats and Japanese subs? I have read that these civilians were to shoot at any periscope spotted off the coast. I do know that the Japanese had big plans to launch chemical weapons on Washington DC and NYC. They had built several subs that carried 3 planes each the I-400 and I-401 were a couple of these. They were in route to the East coast when we bombed Japan. Kyle

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Hello Kyle,

Given the time period you specify, the serial range you want to search for is 1303818 - 1343510 (December 1st, 1942 - September 28th, 1945).

Yes, 40,000 is very close to the number made during WW II, but very few of them were made for, or used by, civilian guard units. The only known WW II Model 94s that were specifically made for such use were the 2,500 that were ordered and delivered to the Pacific Coast Militia Rangers (P.C.M.R.) in the Candian Province of British Columbia. Those guns were all made and delivered in 1942 (serial number range 1317167 - 1342533).

During the WW II years, the bulk of the 40,000 guns were made in 1942 (29,882). That said, 1943 was the only year in which there was a Zero production number. In 1944, just (13) were made, all in November. Regular production resumed in June of 1945 at serial number 1343197, and ended with serial number 1352066 on December 29th, 1945



i was reading this post and i just wanted to know what the serial # would have been for the 13 made in 1944
and is it possible to find 1 of the 13 or are they all own by collectors
p.s
really find all this info very interesting keep it up Bert
thanks
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quote:
Originally posted by goatman1
i was reading this post and i just wanted to know what the serial # would have been for the 13 made in 1944 and is it possible to find 1 of the 13 or are they all own by collectors

p.s really find all this info very interesting keep it up Bert
thanks



Hello,

The (13) serial numbers that were manufactured in 1944 are 1343184 - 1343196. However, not all of them were Model 94s. In fact, of the (13) serial numbers, I suspect that most of them were Model 64s. The reason for my suspicion is that I have found just one of the (13) 1944 made serial numbers, and it is a Model 64 Deer Rifle. Keep in mind that the Model 64 was serial numbered entirely within the Model 94 sequence.

I have no idea who owns the one I found (it was in an auction listing), and I doubt very much that the other (12) are locked up in collections... more than likely they are simply in someone's gun cabinet.

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chipman
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Posted - 08/04/2010 :  9:42:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a model 94 serial # 2596926. What year was this made? Previous owner had installed a side mounted scope would this affect the value much?

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quote:
Originally posted by chipman

I have a model 94 serial # 2596926. What year was this made? Previous owner had installed a side mounted scope would this affect the value much?



Your Model 94 was made in early 1963, just before Winchester retooled and began manufacturing the new (not improved) version.

Yes, most definitely the side mounted scope affects the value... quite negatively. In fact, it permanently destroys any "collector" value, and relegates it to being nothing more than a "shooter" grade gun.

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lacr3am
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Posted - 08/06/2010 :  01:59:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a model 94 for you.

serial # 1017279
32 W.S.
Traditional curved steel butt plate
Type 5 upper tang
Not drilled & tapped
No special markings
Nickel steel barrel
Has sadle ring

I was wondering the DOM of it I'm a 3rd generation owner of it and plan to pass it down to the 4th generation when I go. Thanks
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quote:
Originally posted by lacr3am

I have a model 94 for you.

serial # 1017279
32 W.S.
Traditional curved steel butt plate
Type 5 upper tang
Not drilled & tapped
No special markings
Nickel steel barrel
Has sadle ring

I was wondering the DOM of it I'm a 3rd generation owner of it and plan to pass it down to the 4th generation when I go. Thanks



Hello and thank you for posting.

Your Model 94 SRC was manufactured on February 24th, 1928, and it is completely standard.

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croweman0829
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Posted - 08/08/2010 :  9:21:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have one model 94 that fits your criteria, its serial number 1797256 has "MODEL 94 30-30 Win" on the barrel checkered metal buttplate. And if you could help me on these two it would be greatly appreciated. Winchester model 94 .32 W.S. #299476 nickel steel barrel with smokeless rear sight. and the other is a model 94 30-30 #397275 and is a 1/2 oct 1/2 rd bbl. thanks
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Bert H.
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Posted - 08/09/2010 :  01:51:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by croweman0829

i have one model 94 that fits your criteria, its serial number 1797256 has "MODEL 94 30-30 Win" on the barrel checkered metal buttplate. And if you could help me on these two it would be greatly appreciated. Winchester model 94 .32 W.S. #299476 nickel steel barrel with smokeless rear sight. and the other is a model 94 30-30 #397275 and is a 1/2 oct 1/2 rd bbl. thanks



Your Model 94 is a 1951 vintage standard Carbine.

Serial 299476 is a February 1906 vintage Model 1894, and serial 397275 is a May 1908 vintage Model 1894 Rifle.

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maltbyp
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Posted - 08/11/2010 :  4:55:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert,
I have a 94 #2307701, checkered butt plate. Can you tell me when it was manufactured?

Also, I wish to purchase a 1931 94 for my father's b-day. Is #1071421 to #1079689 the correct range?
Thanks so much for your help,
Pat
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Posted - 08/11/2010 :  5:48:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by maltbyp

Bert,
I have a 94 #2307701, checkered butt plate. Can you tell me when it was manufactured?

Also, I wish to purchase a 1931 94 for my father's b-day. Is #1071421 to #1079689 the correct range?
Thanks so much for your help,
Pat



Hello Pat,

Serial 2307701 is a 1958 vintage Model 94 (approximately July/August). What caliber is it?

Yes, you have the correct serial number range for the year 1931.

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maltbyp
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Posted - 08/11/2010 :  6:22:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Re: Winchester 94 #2307701 - it has 30 -30 WIN and proof steel stamped.
Thanks again for your help,
Pat
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Posted - 08/12/2010 :  09:12:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by maltbyp

Re: Winchester 94 #2307701 - it has 30 -30 WIN and proof steel stamped.
Thanks again for your help,
Pat



Thank you, and you are quite welcome.

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croweman0829
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Posted - 08/15/2010 :  9:03:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey bert got another one for you, serial #872751 checkered buttplate and and a 3/4 mag. whats your take on this one?

thanks,
manuel
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Posted - 08/16/2010 :  12:04:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by croweman0829

hey bert got another one for you, serial #872751 checkered buttplate and and a 3/4 mag. whats your take on this one?

thanks,
manuel



Not enough information to formulate an accurate assesment. Is it a Rifle or a Carbine? If a Carbine, does it have a saddle ring? Caliber? Barrel length?

If you can, please post a few pictures.

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croweman0829
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Posted - 08/16/2010 :  12:34:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sorry i didn't put more info, kinda excited with the find and price! its a 30-30 carbine, no saddle ring oh and i made a mistake its a 2/3 mag. I'm pretty sure its standard carbine barrel length as i had it next to a .32 ws carbine and it was teh same length. Sorry if its kinda vague I'm going off of memory as i have to wait 10 days to pick up. I will definitely post pics when i have the gun in hand.

Edited by - croweman0829 on 08/16/2010 12:36:10 AM
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Posted - 08/16/2010 :  09:25:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by croweman0829

sorry i didn't put more info, kinda excited with the find and price! its a 30-30 carbine, no saddle ring oh and i made a mistake its a 2/3 mag. I'm pretty sure its standard carbine barrel length as i had it next to a .32 ws carbine and it was teh same length. Sorry if its kinda vague I'm going off of memory as i have to wait 10 days to pick up. I will definitely post pics when i have the gun in hand.



I will look forward to seeing the pictures.

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maltbyp
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Posted - 08/16/2010 :  8:05:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert,
I found a 1931 Winchester 94 with a gunsight I am not sure is original. It is pictured below. Could you take a look and tell me what you think?
Thanks,
Pat


Edited by - maltbyp on 08/16/2010 9:32:23 PM
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Bert H.
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Posted - 08/16/2010 :  11:00:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by maltbyp

Bert,
I found a 1931 Winchester 94 with a gunsight I am not sure is original. It is pictured below. Could you take a look and tell me what you think?
Thanks,
Pat



Most definitely not a factory original rear sight. What is the serial number on this Carbine?

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maltbyp
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Posted - 08/16/2010 :  11:04:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Re: Most definitely not a factory original rear sight. What is the serial number on this Carbine?

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7x57Hunter
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Posted - 08/18/2010 :  2:11:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bert,

What year did they switch from the "checkered" hammer to the serrated(lined)hammer? I saw a flat band 30-30 with the checkered hammer the other day and I was wondering if it was original or not. I didn't get the serial number, I'll have to check it out again.

Jon
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Bert H.
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Posted - 08/18/2010 :  11:27:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by 7x57Hunter

Bert,

What year did they switch from the "checkered" hammer to the serrated(lined)hammer? I saw a flat band 30-30 with the checkered hammer the other day and I was wondering if it was original or not. I didn't get the serial number, I'll have to check it out again.

Jon




Hello Jon,

Circa 1946. The early Flat-band carbines may be found with the old style hammer.

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