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grizzclaw
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Posted - 10/02/2008 :  08:53:19 AM  Show Profile
I found an old wooden shell case that is marked 12 ga 2 5/8, and was wondering when 2 5/8 shells were used.

Thanks, Grizz

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peabo
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Posted - 10/02/2008 :  11:26:04 AM  Show Profile
I was looking for some of those to use in a pistol gripped stock for use as a home defense round.
They are still available from Midway. They also have 2" and 2 1/2"

http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?t=82579&pageNum=0&tabId=3&categoryId=19412&categoryString=653***9217***


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Edited by - peabo on 10/02/2008 1:42:26 PM
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OleDuk
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Posted - 10/02/2008 :  3:24:04 PM  Show Profile
Don't know grizz, I've never seen any of the old ones. I suspect 1920's but that's a guess.
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Bert H.
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Posted - 10/02/2008 :  7:26:08 PM  Show Profile
The 2-5/8" 12 gauge shell was in use from the time when breech loading shotguns were first introduced (circa the 1870s), and was common up to about the year 1915. Winchester chambered both the Model 1887 Lever-action and the Model 1893 Slide-action 12 gauge shotguns for it. The Model 1897 Slide-action shotgun was the first to be chambered for the (at that time new) 2-3/4" shell.

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Edited by - Bert H. on 10/02/2008 7:27:50 PM
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grizzclaw
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Posted - 10/02/2008 :  8:23:39 PM  Show Profile
Thank you.

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Hawk Carse
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Posted - 10/02/2008 :  9:09:06 PM  Show Profile
I think they hung on longer in Europe, lots of continental shotguns and drillings marked 65mm which is 2 9/16 - 2 5/8"
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koolkiller6
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  11:48:22 PM  Show Profile
Bert,
My 1897 16 ga has, from what I've read. a 2 5/8 " chamber. Serial # is D-333306. am I wrong ?
John
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Bert H.
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Posted - 10/04/2008 :  02:14:44 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by koolkiller6

Bert,
My 1897 16 ga has, from what I've read. a 2 5/8 " chamber. Serial # is D-333306. am I wrong ?
John



Hello John,

First, your Model 1897 is a 16 gauge versus a 12 gauge. The origial question (discussion) was about 12 gauge 2-5/8" shells and when they were used.

Now, and with that stated, when Winchester introduced the 16 gauge version in late 1899 (in the February 1900 catalog), it was always chambered for a 2-5/8" shell. It was not until the year 1931 that Winchester lengthened the chamber to the now standard 2-3/4" length. The serial number on your gun indicates that it was manufactured in mid year 1906. So, in answer to your question, No, you are not wrong.

Out of curiousity does your gun have a 28" Full choke barrel, a round knob pistol grip, and a smooth steel butt plate?

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ithaca4me
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Posted - 10/05/2008 :  09:00:47 AM  Show Profile
I thought 16ga was 2 9/16 chamber until the early 30's in most guns.
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hedgehopper62
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Posted - 10/05/2008 :  10:09:22 AM  Show Profile
I load for all my old guns that have shorter chambers with wanda brand shells they are 2 1/8 length and made of space age lexion so black powder works good in them.they have not made them for years so they are becoming collectable.I have a case of them statched for my own use.tks.hedge
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Bert H.
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Posted - 10/05/2008 :  12:00:10 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by ithaca4me

I thought 16ga was 2 9/16 chamber until the early 30's in most guns.



In most 16-gauge guns it was a 2-9/16" chamber. For instance, the early Model 1912/12 16-gauge guns were chambered for a 2-9/16" shell from 1913 to 1927. However, that does not change the fact that Winchester used a 2-5/8" (slightly longer) chamber in the Model 1897/97. To give you another example of a Winchester oddity, the Model 1885 Single Shot (high-wall) 20-gauge shotgun (manufactured in 1913 & 1914 only) was factory chambered for a 3" shell. I have yet to find any one who made a 3" 20-gauge shell back in those days, but none-the-less, Winchester made a shotgun chambered for it.

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