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LOKO383
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Costa Rica
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  7:50:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am welsh/cherokee..if any reparations are going to be made by this new Pres...make them to my ancestors and me..we were here first..and it's time to pay the piper..Loko

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spryor
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  7:59:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm with ya there, Loko. Supposed to be a bit of Cherokee in my blood
also.


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ElMuertoMonkey
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  8:03:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Payouts to Native American tribes has been an institution in American politics and economics for a while.

Or did y'all just happen to miss all of those casinos sprouting up like mushrooms everywhere?
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Jorge
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  8:04:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you beat.

My great-great-great-great grandparents came to the Nuevo Mundo with Colombus on his second trip.








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LaidbackDan
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  8:06:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Polite Psycho

Have you beat.

My great-great-great-great grandparents came to the Nuevo Mundo with Colombus on his second trip.







Wasn't Nuevo Mundo one of those boy bands?


I just read "100 things to do before you die" and was quite surprised that yelling for help wasn't one of them.





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MMOMEQ-55
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  8:26:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
German/Cherokee here. Yea where is my money?

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aglore
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  8:30:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1903 or 1906 the Government opened the Native American enrollment to anybody too sign up as Native American. There are more white Cherokees than there are white Scandanavians in this country. Everybody and their brother that claims Indian blood is a Cherokee it seems.

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Jorge
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  8:31:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LaidbackDan

Wasn't Nuevo Mundo one of those boy bands?




"Me-nu-do".






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redneckandy
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  8:38:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You guys can beg for all the handouts that you want. I just want to keep the money I work hard for, instead of being taxed to death.

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LOKO383
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  8:42:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FrancF

check this out! Way cool, and with the going price of bronze you will not lose, If I had the $$ it would be bought.
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nice..I'm with ya..Loko

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dongill
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  8:59:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The blacks are asking for slavery reparations. THEY OUGHT TO BE GRATEFUL FOR SLAVERY! Otherwise, they would now be living in a grass hut with a dirt floor in malarial, HIV ridden darkest Africa!
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allen griggs
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  9:04:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am Welsh-Irish.
I wants my money.
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cowdoc
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  9:17:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sheeet Russel Means will end up with my place yet!....with the change of heart we now have in DC............bzzzzzzzzzzzz......wrong answer guess again
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LesWVa
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  9:29:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Scott and Cherokee here.

I do not want your blood money. Just give me back all that you have stolen from me. I will start with my land, my customs, my native language, my governing ways and my general way of life.
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cahas
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  9:31:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Reminds me of a feller used to be around these parts said he was four thirds Indian.
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cowdoc
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  9:50:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cahas

Reminds me of a feller used to be around these parts said he was four thirds Indian.



four thirds indian........LOL

my great great grandmother was a cherokee indian lady married to a french fur trader.....and one great grandfather also chereokee not full blooded i am told so i am five fourths indian.
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givette
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  10:07:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My great-great grandma was a.....a.....

I don't have a fukkin' clue!



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cahas
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USA
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  10:34:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
German Swiss,Welsh,Scotch-Irish Wifes side of family has the Native American
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mateomasfeo
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  10:36:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


I am a native American...



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Sturmgewehr
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  10:45:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Scott/Irish & Black foot

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remingtonoaks
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USA
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  10:52:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Never had any indian in me (don't want too either). But I've been in a couple of Indian gals



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medic07
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  11:27:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I guess I am the only one here that has Choctaw blood in me...but it isnt all that much at this point, maybe an 1/8th

I mean to kill you in one minute, Ned. Or see you hanged in Fort Smith at Judge Parker's convenience. Which'll it be?
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11b6r
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Posted - 11/08/2008 :  11:48:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FWIW, the word Cherokee does not appear in the language of the Cherokee people- since the language does not contain the "CH" sound. So- why are the people called Cherokee? Well, the first Anglo explorers that met the people had a Creek guide. They asked him who these people were- and he replied "Chero-kee." Which, in the Creek language means...... wait for it.... "They speak a different language from me." The People's name for themselves is Tsulagi. And yes, there are a lot of blue eyed folks with some Cherokee blood- not all the People in North Carolina wanted to take that long walk to Oklahoma.

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JamesRK
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  12:05:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 11b6r

FWIW, the word Cherokee does not appear in the language of the Cherokee people- since the language does not contain the "CH" sound. So- why are the people called Cherokee? Well, the first Anglo explorers that met the people had a Creek guide. They asked him who these people were- and he replied "Chero-kee." Which, in the Creek language means...... wait for it.... "They speak a different language from me." The People's name for themselves is Tsulagi. And yes, there are a lot of blue eyed folks with some Cherokee blood- not all the People in North Carolina wanted to take that long walk to Oklahoma.


I did not know that, and I'm 1/8 Cherokee. I've heard that's the amount you have to be to claim to be Cherokee. I don't know if that's still true, or if it ever was.


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spanielsells
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  05:58:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I once drove a Jeep Cherokee. Then I drove a Jeep Grand Cherokee.

I'll take my reparations.

BTW, as a Jew whose forefathers were enslaved a few thousand years before Africans, I'll lay first claim to reparations. Mine even trumps those of Native Americans.

April 19, 1775
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wundudnee
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  07:30:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mateomasfeo



I am a native American...






This, folks , is the definitive answer. He, like me, was born here.

Ergo: Native American.


Quote from okkim ...
Make a mental note "do not get upset with dumbasses"






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Fatstrat
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  08:53:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LesWVa

Scott and Cherokee here.

I do not want your blood money. Just give me back all that you have stolen from me. I will start with my land, my customs, my native language, my governing ways and my general way of life.



LOL! Scott and Cherokee. But of course you base your claim on your Cherokee part. And deny that Scott part and want repaid for YOUR land and YOUR lost way of life. I'd bet you wouldn't know the indian way of life if it bit you on the ass.
You go on convincing yourself that you're an indian and deserve reparation. And I'll go on laughing at your obvious stupidity. Just another Liberal who is part of the problem in this country. I'm part this, I'm part that. GIVE me some MONEY!!!
I always thought the Indian valued his indepenent spirit.
I have long noted that while many peoples have had rough spot is history, only the indian seems to be totally defeated in SPIRIT.
The Jewish survivors of the WW-2 genocide went on to build a nation. But the indian's are still beggars.

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aglore
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  09:03:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JamesRK



I did not know that, and I'm 1/8 Cherokee. I've heard that's the amount you have to be to claim to be Cherokee. I don't know if that's still true, or if it ever was.





If you married a white woman, you're screwed. You no longer are a member of the Cherokee Nation by their laws. The funny part though is that a white man that marries a Cherokee woman is adopted by the tribe.

Barack Obama murdered Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry. Why has he not been charged? Because his accomplice runs the Department of Juscice.
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mrseatle
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  09:19:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

CHL and FFL holders are Traitors...!



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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  11:45:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by medic07

Well I guess I am the only one here that has Choctaw blood in me...but it isnt all that much at this point, maybe an 1/8th


No. your not the only one Medic. My wife is registered Choctaw.
I am unregistered Cherokee.

Ask us what we are, we will tell you AMERICANS. Ask our ethnicity, we are Native American.

We could move to Oklahoma and get "free" benefits, and work for the Choctaw nation in either the casino or the manufacturing facilities, get a free house and all that jazz. We prefer NOT to. We are no different than anyone else. What happened LONG ago, is in the past. Same with blacks. We have no sympathy for their "plight" as racism only lives in the minds of mental midgets.
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jeffie076
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  1:09:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have Apache blood in my veins from my grammas side of the family tree. I'm very proud of this, but I ain't lookin for no government back pay, because out of the 4000 treatys the gov.nt made with the indians, they broke 3999 of them, so whats a few more.
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glyn
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  2:05:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My wife and daughter are native American they were both born here where as I was born in Wales.

Those who live by the sword will be killed by those who dont. Glyn
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Txs
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  2:17:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My grandfather was full Cherokee and grew up at their orphanage in Salina, OK.

Like many during the time of the Dawes roll, for their own reasons my ancestors chose not to register with the US gov't. I'm not card carrying but between my close lineage to him and another full Cherokee a couple of generations back on the other side, I have more Cherokee blood than many who are 'registered'.

One reason there seem to be so many people of Cherokee heritage is the fact they were not nomadic and as the most 'civilized' of the Native American tribes they assimiliated well into the American culture. These weren't the buffalo hunting, teepee dwelling people most think of when they hear the term 'Indians'. These were businessmen and farmers. As an example, the Cherokees were the only Native Americans to develop an actual written language and have had their own tribal newspaper in continuous publication since the 1820's.

They were also well known for taking care of their people, with social programs establishing a cash stipend for the tribe's families who took in orphaned members as far back as the early 1800's. By the time Sitting Bull was leading the Battle of Little Big Horn the Cherokees had years before established a central tribal orphanage.
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chollagardens
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  2:35:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I remember correctly Cherokees had slaves. That won't go over well with Obama.
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JamesRK
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  2:57:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a Cherokee teepee in Cherokee, North Carolina. They told us they taught the white folks how to build houses.



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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  3:23:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Txs

My grandfather was full Cherokee and grew up at their orphanage in Salina, OK.

Like many during the time of the Dawes roll, for their own reasons my ancestors chose not to register with the US gov't. I'm not card carrying but between my close lineage to him and another full Cherokee a couple of generations back on the other side, I have more Cherokee blood than many who are 'registered'.

One reason there seem to be so many people of Cherokee heritage is the fact they were not nomadic and as the most 'civilized' of the Native American tribes they assimiliated well into the American culture. These weren't the buffalo hunting, teepee dwelling people most think of when they hear the term 'Indians'. These were businessmen and farmers. As an example, the Cherokees were the only Native Americans to develop an actual written language and have had their own tribal newspaper in continuous publication since the 1820's.

They were also well known for taking care of their people, with social programs establishing a cash stipend for the tribe's families who took in orphaned members as far back as the early 1800's. By the time Sitting Bull was leading the Battle of Little Big Horn the Cherokees had years before established a central tribal orphanage.



Cherokee's were ONE of FIVE civilized nations. Those "five" are represented in Oklahoma. Cherokee nation WAS the first to have a written language.

I don't know why some chose not to register. I would be willing to bet that they felt that it was stupid. What other "race" must be registered to prove pedigree? Either you are (insert nation here) or your not. IF I claimed to be black on a job application, or say a home loan, who is to question it? There is NO required proof to show you are indeed "black".
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Fatstrat
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  3:54:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Cherokee's are also comprize of several other smaller Indian tribes that aren't historically of Cherokee lineage. Some tribes such as the Delaware are under Cherokee juristiction and considered a part of the Cherokee Tribe. Something they DON"T LIKE.
Within the Cherokee Tribe, they are considered 2nd class members. And the Cherokees are quite content to use their tribal lands to their own benefit, while reserving the bulk of capital gained for themselves. And use legal force to put busniess ventures of these other tribes that refuse to pay into the Cherokee govt, out of business.
And alot of these people refuse to sign the Cherokee rolls.
Even withing the increasingly prosperous Cherokee tribe, there is alot of discontent, tribal (racial) tension and back stabbing.

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Txs
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  4:35:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by freemind

Cherokee's were ONE of FIVE civilized nations. Those "five" are represented in Oklahoma. Cherokee nation WAS the first to have a written language.
It's true the Cherokee, Choctaw, Seminole, Chickasaw and Creek were referred to by the US governmant as the 'Five Civilized Tribes' because they accepted the European's ways more readily, but the Cherokee tribe was by far the most advanced of these in how they operated. For example, they had their own system of government made up of elected officials by the early 1800's.

The Cherokee weren't just the first tribe to have a written language, they were the only one to actually develop their own. Others tribes who use non-pictographic writing just adapted the European's Roman alphabet to use with their languages, but the Cherokee's developed their own, unique 85 character alphabet.
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machine gun moran
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  4:45:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Great Grandpa was a Hochunk. Yeah, I know, but we all can't claim to be the descendants of Cochise or Sitting Bull.

I also don't contest that most people's White relatives stepped off the Mayflower. But mine surely stepped off Noah's Ark.

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MMOMEQ-55
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  4:48:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Txs

My grandfather was full Cherokee and grew up at their orphanage in Salina, OK.

Like many during the time of the Dawes roll, for their own reasons my ancestors chose not to register with the US gov't. I'm not card carrying but between my close lineage to him and another full Cherokee a couple of generations back on the other side, I have more Cherokee blood than many who are 'registered'.

One reason there seem to be so many people of Cherokee heritage is the fact they were not nomadic and as the most 'civilized' of the Native American tribes they assimiliated well into the American culture. These weren't the buffalo hunting, teepee dwelling people most think of when they hear the term 'Indians'. These were businessmen and farmers. As an example, the Cherokees were the only Native Americans to develop an actual written language and have had their own tribal newspaper in continuous publication since the 1820's.

They were also well known for taking care of their people, with social programs establishing a cash stipend for the tribe's families who took in orphaned members as far back as the early 1800's. By the time Sitting Bull was leading the Battle of Little Big Horn the Cherokees had years before established a central tribal orphanage.






My grandmother grew up in a Cherokee orphanage. Native Americans were considered trash and drunks back in the late 1800s early 1900s when she was growing up. Sad but no records of her parents exsist. Her last name was Hicks and I have talked to several Hicks up at the reservation. Actually the Chief's last name is Hicks but with all the research I have done I haven't been able to come up with the proof of my heritage.

I used to love listening to her talk about her child hood. She still could speak the language and she used to predict the weather, come up with some of the worst smelling remedies for what ever was wrong with you. I remember her hair was so long it would drag the ground if she hadn't rolled it up on her head. She came to live with us in 1960. She up to then dressed like a Cherokee woman but when she came to live with us my mother made her dress like a white woman. We as kids were not allowed to talk about anything Cherokee and no way was we allowed to say anything about grandma being Cherokee. This was North Carolina and back in those days you were treated worst than the black man if you were a half breed. Funny how times change. Now days everyone claims to be part indian. It has gone from being taboo to being cool to have Native American blood in you.

The day you are born you are dying. Make every day count! -Johnny B.

"Love says I sacrifice myself for the good of the other person.
Abortion says I sacrifice the other person for the good of
myself..." -unknown


In essence many modern day, legally-sanctioned abortion clinics serve the same purpose as Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Dachhau and Hitler's other slaughterhouses, which exterminated an unwanted segment of the population. - Charlie Daniels

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Jorge
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Great stories.

Thanks for sharing Txs/Johnny B.






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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  7:00:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Txs

quote:
Originally posted by freemind

Cherokee's were ONE of FIVE civilized nations. Those "five" are represented in Oklahoma. Cherokee nation WAS the first to have a written language.
It's true the Cherokee, Choctaw, Seminole, Chickasaw and Creek were referred to by the US governmant as the 'Five Civilized Tribes' because they accepted the European's ways more readily, but the Cherokee tribe was by far the most advanced of these in how they operated. For example, they had their own system of government made up of elected officials by the early 1800's.

The Cherokee weren't just the first tribe to have a written language, they were the only one to actually develop their own. Others tribes who use non-pictographic writing just adapted the European's Roman alphabet to use with their languages, but the Cherokee's developed their own, unique 85 character alphabet.



You are correct Txs. I didn't mean to infer that they didn't develope their own alphabet. I didn't express myself well.

Wanna get together and do the sun dance sometime?
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Txs
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quote:
Originally posted by freemind

Wanna get together and do the sun dance sometime?

Too far for me to to travel.

Let's just synchronize our watches and set a date.
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LesWVa
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  8:28:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Fatstrat says...
LOL! Scott and Cherokee. But of course you base your claim on your Cherokee part. And deny that Scott part and want repaid for YOUR land and YOUR lost way of life. I'd bet you wouldn't know the indian way of life if it bit you on the ass.


The Scott side I know. We were miners. Most still are today.

I may know a little more than you think about my Indian side. For I had a Grandfather that stuck by the old ways and lived his life the way his parents and grand parents taught him.

My Grandfathers (Mothers father) side came into what became WV in the early 1800 to keep from being sent to OK and AR. When the white man was taking all of the land that was cleared for farming by the Cherokee.

My Grand Father was a black smith and ran a saw mill. He burned coal and cooked on a wood stove until around 1990. He passed away in 1993. Hunted with a hand me down Model 1873 up until he got to old to hunt. No one in the family knows where the rifle went, at least no one is willing to say. He spoke Cherokee very well and knew how to write the language which is something that I still have a hard time understanding even today. Yes they had their own government system and the women had a equal say in how things were ran.

My Grandfather (full blooded) and Grand Mother (she died when I was three).




My Mother (front with hand in her pockets) during her early school days. She was made to wear pants to school for she was a 100% tomboy. My Uncle is wearing the plaid shirt and my Aunt is wearing the checked dress in the last row.



Where my Grandfather lived until he was forced to move. My mother again, first lady on the left standing. Her brother is on the far left sitting in front of her. The dark haired lady in the middle and on the far right are my mothers sisters. The rest of the grown ups are in laws. The kids are all first cousins and yes I am in the photo somewhere.
The entire 300 acre farm was stolen by the government for $1.50 an acre. It now sits at the bottom of a lake.




Ever hear of a Green Corn Festival, Ball Play (you though rugby is rough), Raven Mockers, a thing called "black drink"?

My land, my customs, my native language, my governing ways and my general way of life are all but gone. One thing someone noticed on here. I rarely use the word "because". My Mothers side of the family never did use "because" and had no words to describe what it meant.

It would not be hard to go back to an Indian way of life. For what were really when you boil it all down.

Nothing but the best Survivalist that ever existed. Everything they had or used came from the land until the Europeans came here.






Edited by - LesWVa on 11/09/2008 8:30:02 PM
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JamesRK
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  8:38:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by MMOMEQ-55

We as kids were not allowed to talk about anything Cherokee and no way was we allowed to say anything about grandma being Cherokee. This was North Carolina and back in those days you were treated worst than the black man if you were a half breed. Funny how times change. Now days everyone claims to be part indian. It has gone from being taboo to being cool to have Native American blood in you.

That reminds me of something my mother told me. She said when she was a kid, that would have been in the 1920’s in Alabama, she and a gang of her brothers, sisters and cousins were playing cowboys and Indians. Her uncle Jerry happened to come over and he said “Did you kids know you are part Indian?”

All the kids thought that was really cool. She got all excited and ran into the house and said “Mama, Mama, uncle Jerry said we are part Indian. Is it true?” Her mother said “Shut up!”

That was the end of that conversation, but it turned out my grandmother’s mother (my great-grandmother) was Cherokee.

My mother always thought it was funny that her mother was so touchy about being half Cherokee.

The only thing I know of that Cherokee blood gets you is a better than even chance of having diabetes in your old age.


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pipe7
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  9:16:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by dongill

The blacks are asking for slavery reparations. THEY OUGHT TO BE GRATEFUL FOR SLAVERY! Otherwise, they would now be living in a grass hut with a dirt floor in malarial, HIV ridden darkest Africa!



Blacks should be Grateful for Slavery???? Are you really that Stupid???????
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pipe7
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  9:23:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shure now everyone wants to call themselves "Native American" if there is money to be paid out. A week from now someone will make a post how Native Americans were the first in North America, and many of you will cry Bull $%^& and say differently. Some of you never cease to amaze me
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Posted - 11/09/2008 :  9:31:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm 1/8 Cherokee, myself...been thinking about heading to a reservation (sovereign nation) should the need ever arise.
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