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RyanR
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USA
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  8:21:47 PM  Show Profile
Hello all,

While researching a rifle I inherited from my great grandfather many years ago I came across this forum. I am having a hard time finding much information about it and am hoping you can help! Below are some pictures. I doubt is has a high monetary value but I would really like to know the model if possible.







On the top of the barrel it says: CAL 30 M.F.SMITH'S PAT'S. PATENTED MAR.6. APR.10.APR.24.1906.OTHER PATENTS PENDING. MAN'F'D. BY STANDARD ARMS CO. WILMINGTON, DELAWARE, U.S.A

rufe-snow
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  8:32:31 PM  Show Profile
Little known and very interesting rifle. Made for a very short period of time during the early years of the 20th Century. I don't know about yours but many of the them had the capability of being converted from a pump to a semi-auto, at will by the user. They were chambered for the same cartridges used in the Remington semi-autos, made during the same era. Yours would be chambered for the .30 Remington cartridge, which is essentially a 30-30 Winchester without a rim.

Edited by - rufe-snow on 01/10/2009 8:41:53 PM
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badsbsnf81
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  8:59:40 PM  Show Profile
The company was only in busines from @ 1909-1911.

The Cold War wasn't that cold.
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brier-49
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USA
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  9:12:20 PM  Show Profile
That button in the foreend is what is used to change from pump to semi, if memory serves me. I just missed buying one this past summer.

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Knifecollector
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USA
2911 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2009 :  10:31:02 PM  Show Profile
My book shows $750 excellent - $600 very good- $350 good.
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rufe-snow
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  11:25:19 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by RyanR

Hello all,

While researching a rifle I inherited from my great grandfather many years ago I came across this forum. I am having a hard time finding much information about it and am hoping you can help! Below are some pictures. I doubt is has a high monetary value but I would really like to know the model if possible.


On the top of the barrel it says: CAL 30 M.F.SMITH'S PAT'S. PATENTED MAR.6. APR.10.APR.24.1906.OTHER PATENTS PENDING. MAN'F'D. BY STANDARD ARMS CO. WILMINGTON, DELAWARE, U.S.A




My references note that it is most likely the Model G, and was the first gas actuated commercial rifle offered for sale in the U.S.

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RyanR
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2009 :  01:04:24 AM  Show Profile
Thanks for the info everybody!

The rifle is actually in really good shape overall. I had no idea it was so old until I started investigating today. My great grandfather was a big game hunter. This is one of what once was a large collection. I am glad to have a piece of my family's history that has some overall historical significance as well. :)

Cheers, Ryan
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fire15vp
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USA
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Posted - 03/11/2009 :  5:11:53 PM  Show Profile
You have a 30 Calibre Model G Standard arms rifle made sometime between 1909 and 1911. They were very advanced for the time period. At the muzzleend should be a square stud, by turning it you can change the gun from semi auto to pump. A special wrench that looks like a bullet with a knurled gripping area at the neck. I have seen the wrench sell in the $250 range. The slide and butt plate were japaned originally, a glossy black finish that wore off rapidly. The photos you have are not the best but it appears you have a lot of japan finish. The powder quality was the biggest ememy of this gun, the tolerances were very tight which caused the gun to jam. The 30 is the most common. The 35 remington was the beat operational cartridge. Less than 3500 guns were produced, although serial numbers as high as 9200 exsist. I am maintaining a list of these guns. I would appreciate knowing the serial number of this one. If your gun is in the condition I believe it to be $750 would be a starting price.
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hapyjak
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Posted - 08/22/2009 :  3:19:59 PM  Show Profile
I have the same gun in the .35 cal. serial number 6998
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Debbie Adkins
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Posted - 09/19/2009 :  5:28:29 PM  Show Profile
I have the .30 cal. #6105
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dandemo
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USA
1 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2009 :  10:49:14 AM  Show Profile
I have the .30 cal. #491
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