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owen219
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USA
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Posted - 05/10/2009 :  10:42:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have an old can of Winchester ball powder 630 and would like to load it for .270 Winchester rifle rounds but can not find loading data. Can anyone help? Thanks much!

Hawk Carse
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Posted - 05/11/2009 :  08:20:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Winchester 630 is a pistol powder not at all suitable for .270.
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Rocky Raab
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USA
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Posted - 05/11/2009 :  10:15:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Correct. It is NOT a rifle powder.

I have two cans of it, and use it for medium-heavy loads in my 45 Colt. It is superb in that use, and I dearly regret that is is long discontinued.

Edited by - Rocky Raab on 05/11/2009 10:15:44 AM
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owen219
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USA
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Posted - 05/11/2009 :  2:55:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It says on the can "for Center Fire Handgun and rifle loads". I would like to use it if anyone can provide any load information for any calibers. Thanks.
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Rocky Raab
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USA
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Posted - 05/11/2009 :  2:58:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That always mystified me because it is too fast even for the Hornet except at reduced load levels.

It MIGHT be useful in reduced rifle loads (much like BlueDot) but I haven't done any tests in that use - and don't plan any as my supply isn't large enough. Plus, what good would it do to publish data for a powder that's been discontinued for 20 years?
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XXCross
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USA
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Posted - 05/11/2009 :  3:57:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think there was some load data for the 45-70 that used
Winchester 630. Really dirty as I recall. Was used in Winch. factory loading with the 405 gr FP bullet.

Edited by - XXCross on 05/11/2009 4:08:32 PM
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owen219
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USA
2035 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2009 :  8:37:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess I will use it to blow a stump or somethiung.
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crowbeaner
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USA
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Posted - 06/01/2009 :  10:16:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can use it with cast bullets in a .222. I load 8.5 grains and a Lyman 225415 sized .225" in my M700. Plinks OK.

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I.Shute
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Posted - 06/02/2009 :  12:39:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Winchester loading data book dated June 1975 shows several pistol loads and only two rifle loads for 630, - .32-20 and .45-70.
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walnut red
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USA
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Posted - 06/09/2009 :  08:03:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
630 is a great powder for specific applications. I scour old gun shops because my favorite 32 S&W Long loading uses 630. Out of a J Frame S&W I can safely push the 115gn FNHP cast bullet at almost 1100 FPS using published data.
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owen219
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USA
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Posted - 06/09/2009 :  08:44:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mr. Andrews sent me four pages of load data for 630 from an old Winchester load book. I want to sincerely thank him for going out of his way to do this. I would be happy to share any specific load data for pistol loads on request. He copied it and sent it to me via snail mail. Thanks very much.
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partisan
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Posted - 06/10/2009 :  5:27:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
NO RIFLES!!!! Pistol powder only!
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noww90
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USA
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Posted - 02/19/2014 :  10:29:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also have 630 ball power that I would like to use for 38 and 357, 125 gr hollow points. Can any one let me know the min & max grains are for both
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charliemeyer007
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USA
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Posted - 02/20/2014 :  10:36:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
NOTE these are 2 different powders 630 and 630-P

Speer #8 38 Special 125 gr Soft Point 630-P CCI 550 primer 13.5gr 1303fps, 12.5 gr 1227fps, 11.5 gr 1133fps

357 Magnum 125 gr Soft Point CCI 550 630-P 17.0 gr 1468fps, 15.0 1353fps

Winchester Western Ball Powder Loading Data 5th Edition 6/79

357 Magnum 125 gr JHP 630 15.4 gr 1710fps 42500CUP
38 Special +P 125gr JHP 630 8.7gr 1150fps 19000CUP

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Ray B
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Posted - 02/20/2014 :  1:17:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Attached are a few pages that I photo'd from Propellant Profiles for the 630 and 630P. As noted in the articles both powders are primarily for high performance pistol cartridges. You could use the powder in a 270 cartridge BUT you would need to be exceedingly careful and have very guarded expectations. Using pistol powder in a rifle will give pistol results. If you seek rifle results you may as well make an appointment at the local hospital emergency room. In a 270 the 630 powder would be at maximum pressures when it had pushed a low resistance bullet of about 90 grains to a velocity of about 1200 fps. Unless you are well versed in burn characteristics of the powder to seek on-the-job training would be very destructive.







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