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sentry dog 69
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Posted - 05/23/2009 :  7:25:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is ther any difference in the two rounds. Is the 35 Whelen a lever gun round? Does one have a definate advantage over the other?

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perry shooter
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Posted - 05/23/2009 :  7:38:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the 35 Whelen is based on the 30-06 case depending on bullet choice you can get over 2900 FPS and 3500 FP muzzle energy the 35 Remington is lucky to get 2200 FP of muzzle energy.
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savage170
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Posted - 05/23/2009 :  7:44:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's like comparing 30-30 to 3006 only .35 Dia
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SCOUT5
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Posted - 05/23/2009 :  10:32:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 35 Reminton is a good dear round for the woods but has limited range where as the 35 Whelen is regarded as a good woods round but due to more powder capacity it shoots a lot faster and is capable of more range than the 35 Remington. I have owned a 35 Remingtion Marlin Lever gun and I liked it. I have not owned a 35 Whelen, I understand they are very popular in the North East wood country.

I do not know of any 35 Whelen lever action rifles made, that doesn't mean they don't exist, just that I do not know of any. Remington chamber the 35 Whelen in a semiauto and maybe a pump as well I'm not sure. Look up Remington's web site and check it out. Also look up a ballistics chart on the two cartridges you asked about and you will see the difference.
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ern98
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Posted - 05/23/2009 :  10:37:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In general the 35 whelen is not a lever gun cartridge. Likewise neither is the 30-06. Any lever gun that can handle the 30-06 can be rebarreled to the 35 whelen. When ever I start thinking down those lines of consideration I have to remind myself that for under $800 I can go out and buy a Marlin levergun, in stainless steel, chambered in 45-70 that will handle all the +p loads and I reset back to reality. Now a new consideration is the new Marlin levergun .338 offering. I just wish it was the .338 federal, but oh well....
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edharold
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Costa Rica
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Posted - 05/25/2009 :  8:02:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 35 Whelen is a great cartridge. It began as a wildcat, I have one on a Springfield action. It's great all around rifle comparable to many of the modern large bores and has been used on about anything that walks. Mine has been retired now. I don't know how it would work with more modern powders.
I also have a 35 Remington on a Remington Model 14 slide action. It won't touch the Whelen, it is about as effective as a 30-30, a good woods gun. It's also retired.
I think you could rebarrel a Winchester 1895 to 35 Whelen, but that is one of my more stupid ideas , but it is the only lever action I know of to handle a 30-06 length cartridge.

There is room for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
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savage170
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Posted - 05/25/2009 :  8:16:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The browning BLR should handle it
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glabray
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Posted - 05/25/2009 :  9:08:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Without getting into a lot of details, if you think of the .35 Remington as a 30-30 necked up to .35 caliber, and the .35 Whelen as a .30-06 necked up to .35 caliber you can easily visualize the difference.
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nononsense
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Posted - 05/26/2009 :  07:31:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sentry dog 69,

The links are two short descriptions and history of these cartridges:

http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/35w.html

http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/35rem.html

Here's a quick comparison chart:

35 Caliber, Actual Bore Groove Diameter - .357 - .358 in. / 9.0mm

Cartridge/Bullet Weight/Muzzle Velocity/Velocity 200Yd./Muzzle Energy/Muzzle Energy 200 Yd.

.357 Magnum 180 1550 980 960 385
.35 Remington 200 2080 1376 1921 841
.35 Whelen 200 2675 2100 3177 1958
.350 Remington Magnum 200 2775 2186 3419 2122

Best.

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laogai
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USA
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Posted - 05/26/2009 :  10:35:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i would merely add that i've had a 35 whelen for 12 years and absolutely love it. alaska bull moose went about 7 steps after one shot from it, yet moderate recoil. generally they like 250 grain bullets, tho nosler makes a 225 ballistic tip especially for it.
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