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Bergtreffer
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Posted - 06/13/2009 :  11:47:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guys, I have a Winchester Model-1895 that is chambered in the obsolete .30-03 cartridge. I would love to shoot this old 1906 built Winchester, but there is somewhat of a shortage of .30-03 ammunition these days. Can anyone tell me where I can get .30-03 brass, or how to make such brass? Needless to say, this question goes beyond the basic brass, to include loading dies. Thanks in advance.

BaseJumper
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Posted - 06/13/2009 :  11:52:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try here...

http://obsoleteammo.com/




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moonshine
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Posted - 06/13/2009 :  11:55:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't shoot it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30-03

http://www.oldammo.com/october03.htm

Edited by - moonshine on 06/14/2009 12:00:13 AM
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k_townman
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  12:02:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would.

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hk-91
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  12:09:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I grew up shooting this round and i'm only 30 years old. IF i could talk my brother out of my dads 30-30 i would and have tried. to this day i have never found a better brush gun then this. I had to choice between dads Spring field m1 garand or the winchester 30-30 and his ruger secerity six. I choice the garand and my oldest brother got the 30-30 and the ruger 357 and the youngest brother got the 30 carbine.

Edited by - hk-91 on 06/14/2009 12:12:20 AM
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Nwcid
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  01:22:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hk-91

I grew up shooting this round and i'm only 30 years old. IF i could talk my brother out of my dads 30-30 i would and have tried. to this day i have never found a better brush gun then this. I had to choice between dads Spring field m1 garand or the winchester 30-30 and his ruger secerity six. I choice the garand and my oldest brother got the 30-30 and the ruger 357 and the youngest brother got the 30 carbine.



.30-03 NOT 30-30. Just FYI




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jeffb1911
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  01:59:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 30 03 round is merely the 30 06, but with the 220gr bullet. In 1906 it was changed to 150gr spitzer bullet, hence the name change. Personally, i would not shoot it either, unless with some severly reduced loads.

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11b6r
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  05:08:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a difference in case length between 30-03 and 30-06, not a lot, but 30-03 is longer by a touch. Sights are for a 220 gr bullet.

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gruntled
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  05:43:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The article does say that you can fire a .30-06 in a .30-03.
If you can get loading dies that means you might be able to fire form cases that should work although they would be a bit short.
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Tailgunner1954
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  06:57:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Go buy some 220gr RN 30-06 ammo and have at it.
The only difference between the 2 cases is the 1 mm difference in neck length (30-03 is 7.62x64, 30-06 is 7.62x63).

30-03 has a (factory) case length of 2.559
270 Win has a case length of 2.540
280 Rem has a case length of 2.540
30-06 has a case length of 2.494

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MIKE WISKEY
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  09:46:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"There is a difference in case length between 30-03 and 30-06, not a lot, but 30-03 is longer by a touch. Sights are for a 220 gr bullet."............like tailgunner said the only difference is the lenght on the neck, the headspace is the same. kind of like shooting .22 shorts in a long rifle, just keep your loads on the mild side.

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Spartacus
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  11:21:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well, i learn something every day.
I didn't even know 30-03 existed! thought it was a typo.
I went over to obsoleteammo and was shocked at the prices;
32-20 brass for $35 for 20!
and 303 british brass for $45!!
I just sold 100 rounds of 303 for less than that!


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fishkiller41
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  11:26:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tailgunner1954

Go buy some 220gr RN 30-06 ammo and have at it.
The only difference between the 2 cases is the 1 mm difference in neck length (30-03 is 7.62x64, 30-06 is 7.62x63).

30-03 has a (factory) case length of 2.559
270 Win has a case length of 2.540
280 Rem has a case length of 2.540
30-06 has a case length of 2.494


Wouldn't the 30-06 cases "fire-form" once fired from the O6?Or is the shoulder the same? Would it stretch the necks?
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MIKE WISKEY
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  1:29:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Wouldn't the 30-06 cases "fire-form" once fired from the O6?Or is the shoulder the same? Would it stretch the necks?"..........no, the case body is the same, just the neck is a little longer on the .30/03

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rusty3040
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  2:14:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
try runnibg 270 winchester brass in a 06 sizer die , they should come out with a slightly longer neck, thats what my friend does for his 95 winchester
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Bergtreffer
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Posted - 06/20/2009 :  12:40:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, fellers, thanks for the input. I do believe that I shall just put ol' bessy back in the gun safe and leave it be. I have plenty enough other rifles to play with, without getting the old Win 95 up and running. Thanks, one and all. Bergtreffer.
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SCOUT5
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Posted - 06/20/2009 :  12:41:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Check out the reloader's forum or the ask the experts forum as well as asking here
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allen griggs
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Posted - 06/20/2009 :  08:25:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
.30-03

Never heard of it.
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Horse Plains Drifter
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Posted - 06/20/2009 :  08:34:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep, I have one of those too and have shot lots of '06 rounds through it.


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Tailgunner1954
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Posted - 06/20/2009 :  09:17:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by allen griggs

.30-03

Never heard of it.



What cartridge do you think the Springfield rifle model 1903 was origionaly chambered for?

At least the OP isn't looking for an even earlier military cartridge, the 30-01 (thick rim). Them bad boys sell from $100 and up each (the last one I saw auctioned off went for around $175 (I dropped out at $125)

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TBaumgartner
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Posted - 07/25/2009 :  10:34:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Buffalo Arms Co. makes .30-03 brass.

http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,95.html
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TooBig
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Posted - 07/26/2009 :  11:10:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.reedsammo.com/Page3.html
maybe???????????????

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