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1022man
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Posted - 06/23/2009 :  7:11:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have had some large artillery shells for a while now and have no idea what they are, what they go to, and if they have any value as I am looking to sell some. Any help is welcome. Pics at the bottom. 1.) 2 shells, 1 is 'rolled' is in it looks like it was made by rolling brass, the other is solid no seam seen. They are 14 1/2" tall and 1 is stamped 105MM M14BI. 2.) 3 'bullets' 15" tall. 1 is stamped YCC-4-98 1955 HEP-T 105mm T139E45 106MM T139E4T. It is also painted (some paint not readable/gone) T over MP A-3 over SHELL M346. 3.) Shell that is perferated with holes all over, 16" long, 4 1/4" across base. 4.) 2 bullets 11 1/2" long 2 1/2" across base with a large 'hollowpoint' that is covered by a plastic plug. 5.) is 24" tall and 5 3/4" across bottom Painted on bottom 105MM M150BI over AMMO LOT over MA-47-20B over CRTS HEP-T M393A2, and stamped on bottom is NOR-6-19 over 1975.

p3skyking
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Posted - 06/23/2009 :  7:51:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 1022man

I have had some large artillery shells for a while now and have no idea what they are, what they go to, and if they have any value as I am looking to sell some. Any help is welcome. Pics at the bottom. 1.) 2 shells, 1 is 'rolled' is in it looks like it was made by rolling brass, the other is solid no seam seen. They are 14 1/2" tall and 1 is stamped 105MM M14BI. 2.) 3 'bullets' 15" tall. 1 is stamped YCC-4-98 1955 HEP-T 105mm T139E45 106MM T139E4T. It is also painted (some paint not readable/gone) T over MP A-3 over SHELL M346. 3.) Shell that is perferated with holes all over, 16" long, 4 1/4" across base. 4.) 2 bullets 11 1/2" long 2 1/2" across base with a large 'hollowpoint' that is covered by a plastic plug. 5.) is 24" tall and 5 3/4" across bottom Painted on bottom 105MM M150BI over AMMO LOT over MA-47-20B over CRTS HEP-T M393A2, and stamped on bottom is NOR-6-19 over 1975.





I have tried and cannot decypher what you are trying to say except that you have a lot of 105mm's. The photo is too dark. I think you are writing the number one (1) when you should write "one" (1 is 'rolled'). It would help somewhat if the description matched the photo.
The tall round (next to the silver colored 105mm shell case) looks interesting, as does the little 75mm projectile. The rest are fairly common souveniers.

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Tombstonejim
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Posted - 06/23/2009 :  9:42:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have no idea what you said. Some grammar please. Spacing and paragraphs/tabs.

The second one from the right. The one with holes all in it. Is a 105/106 recoilless rifle round. HEPT. = high explosive plastic tank. A round that was made of plastic explosive that splattered out on the armour and then detonated causing spalding of the armour inside the tank. The primary recoilless round during the 50's and 60's. Deadly. When I was in Korea we had some poor Korean take one back to his hooch and try to disassemble it with a hammer and chisel.
half the village dissapeared.

The three war heads to the left the large ones you imply are marked 105??? but they look considerably larger than the recoilless round so I am not sure what they are. There were also HEPT tank rounds but those do not look like tank rounds. Perhaps 155 rounds.

I sincerely hope those things are inert. If not your whole house could be vaporised.

Edited by - Tombstonejim on 06/23/2009 9:55:40 PM
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1022man
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Posted - 06/23/2009 :  9:57:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry guys. I was describing the cases more than the bullets/projectiles. So my discription goes from the first case on the left then towards the right. Three of the (The 3 that look the same) projectiles are the same, seem to HE 105MM? 1 of the 3 is stamped YCC-4-98 1955 HEP-T 105mm T139E45 106MM T139E4T. It is also painted (some paint not readable/gone) T over MP A-3 over SHELL M346. Then I have 2 That are unknown (the 1st item on the left in the picture, and the item ontop of the recoiless case) The are bullets 11 1/2" long 2 1/2" across base with a large 'hollowpoint' that is covered by a plastic plug. So heading from left to right THE 5TH ITEM is 'rolled' is in it looks like it was made by rolling brass. THE 6TH item the other is solid no seam seen. BOTH 5&6 are 14 1/2" tall and ^ is stamped 105MM M14BI. 7TH item from the left is Shell that is perferated with holes all over, 16" long, 4 1/4" across base(recoiless rifle?)8TH ITEM FROM THE LEFT 1ST ITEM FROM THE RIGHT is 24" tall and 5 3/4" across bottom Painted on bottom 105MM M150BI over AMMO LOT over MA-47-20B over CRTS HEP-T M393A2, and stamped on bottom is NOR-6-19 over 1975. Hopefully this is easier to read and understand. The paint can is just there for scale.
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Tombstonejim
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Posted - 06/23/2009 :  10:11:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 1022man

Sorry guys.
I was describing the cases more than the bullets/projectiles.

So my discription goes from the first case on the left then towards the right.

Three of the (The 3 that look the same) projectiles are the same, seem to HE 105MM?

1 of the 3 is stamped YCC-4-98 1955 HEP-T 105mm T139E45 106MM T139E4T.

It is also painted (some paint not readable/gone) T over MP A-3 over SHELL M346.

Then I have 2 That are unknown (the 1st item on the left in the picture,

and the item ontop of the recoiless case)

The are bullets ( akkk these things ain't bullets they are rounds or projetiles)(11 1/2" long 2 1/2" across base with a large 'hollowpoint' ( akk thats where the fuse went) that is covered by a plastic plug.

So heading from left to right THE 5TH ITEM is 'rolled' is in it looks like it was made by rolling brass.

THE 6TH item the other is solid no seam seen. BOTH 5&6 are 14 1/2" tall and ^ is stamped 105MM M14BI.

7TH item from the left is Shell that is perferated with holes all over, 16" long, 4 1/4" across base(recoilless rifle?)

8TH ITEM FROM THE LEFT 1ST ITEM FROM THE RIGHT is 24" tall and 5 3/4" across bottom Painted on bottom 105MM M150BI over AMMO LOT over MA-47-20B over CRTS HEP-T M393A2, and stamped on bottom is NOR-6-19 over 1975.

Hopefully this is easier to read and understand. The paint can is just there for scale.




Now is that not a heck of a lot easier to read?

The one on the far right could be the casing from a 105 tank gun but it does not look quite right..

Primary tank rounds for the era would have been

HEPT

HEAT...High explosive anti tank

SABOT

Edited by - Tombstonejim on 06/23/2009 10:29:19 PM
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ammo guy
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Posted - 06/23/2009 :  10:46:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The projectiles appear to be 105 howitzer , HEP-T is High Explosive Plastic- Tracer. The smaller case looks to me to be a 105 as well. The one with the perferated case looks like a 75mm recoilless rifle rd. The 105-106mm recoilless was a fixed rd . The projectiles may have been removed from the case as well and actually be from the recoilless as well. The large steel case may be for the 120mm tank rd from the 50's. These were called separated as the case and powder were separate from the projectile.
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riley p
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USA
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Posted - 06/24/2009 :  07:49:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From a career in our army's artillery; you've hit on a subject I know a tiny bit about. The shell on the far right is from a 105 tank gun like that which was on an M60 tank or M48 tank. Next over is most probably from 90 recoil-less rifle as is probably the projo on the far left. the two short stubby shells are both 105 howitzer shells, the kind used in a M101 or M102 howitzer. Those were made from solid brass to seamed sheet brass to seamed sheet steel; depending on the year. The bullets are almost certainly from 105 tank guns or some earlier variant. Solid shot was used some for training I think. Quail hunting on Fort Sill I came across every single projectile ever shot from a gun from 1890 on many still intact when the fuze didn't function. Some still stuck in the oak trees they hit!
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US Military Guy
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USA
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Posted - 06/24/2009 :  07:57:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.destructivedevice.com/ordnance.htm

This is where I get my info about my collection.
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USN_Airdale
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Posted - 06/24/2009 :  08:46:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by US Military Guy

http://www.destructivedevice.com/ordnance.htm

This is where I get my info about my collection.



thank you for this very informative site, i have just learned a lot of info on my small collection of military "stuff".



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