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coltpax
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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:07:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will #4 steel wool take off a gun's blueing, or only the rust?

Captplaid
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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:12:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've heard those steel scrub pads that look like drill bit shavings with light oit will knock off the rust but not damage the blue.

I've never tried it.

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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:15:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
0000 steel wool works on minor rust, just remember to use a LIGHT touch.

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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:16:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
I've heard those steel scrub pads that look like drill bit shavings with light oit will knock off the rust but not damage the blue.

I've never tried it.


It works. I don't think they are steel though. At least the ones I use are not attracted by a magnet.

You can use the Frontier Gun Shop Big 45 Gun Cleaner, for about $4.00 a pad, or you can use the white metal pot scrubbers from the Dollar General store, 4 for $1.00. Same difference.

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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:17:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#4 steel wool would shurely scratch the bejesus out of anything. I think you mean 0000 steel wool which with some light oil, and moderate hand pressure will not harm factory bluing nor a genuine patina. Loose rust and cold blue will come off.
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coltpax
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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:20:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yea, I meant 0000 steel wool. A brillo pad may be better though.
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Jorge
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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:21:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will not steel wool residue compound to the problem?

Is not Brillo plastic pads a safer alternative?





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matwor
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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:26:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Light, light, LIGHT pressure. Better yet use Blue Wonder Gun Cleaner.




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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:33:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Captplaid

I've heard those steel scrub pads that look like drill bit shavings with light oit will knock off the rust but not damage the blue.

I've never tried it.



i could have sworn when i heard that the product referenced was the copper(at least colored) version. as the story went, the pad was harder than the rust but softer than the bluing. never tried it though...
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dan kelly
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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:39:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
iv`e always had excellent results with very fine steel wool and oil. it` taken the rust off and actually left a very nice polish on the blued barrels...i suppose if you rubbed hard enough for long enough it would eventually take the blueing off though.

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fideau
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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:48:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ditto on the Blue Wonder. But you have to still use some fine steel wool on heavy rust. If you are using it on original or hot blue it's hard to do damage. If you use it on cold blue or something not done by a pro steel wool will take it off.

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Locust Fork
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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:52:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have scrubbed just about every kind of gun with the kitchen pot scrubbers.....the stainless springy ones....and haven't hurt a finish with one yet.

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pietro75
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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:56:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Locust Fork

I have scrubbed just about every kind of gun with the kitchen pot scrubbers.....the stainless springy ones....and haven't hurt a finish with one yet.



Like the ones you scrub cast iron skillets with?

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duckhunter
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Posted - 08/17/2009 :  12:01:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Use stainless steel wool with rem-oil.
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Locust Fork
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Posted - 08/17/2009 :  12:15:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Same ones. I usually buy all the Dollar Tree has when I stop in to get some. They won't take the finish off and scrub any rust or dirt right off. I got the laquer off one of those old doubles in less than 2 minutes and it had to have been on there for 20 years or better.

It'll be in the cleaning section of Dollar General....next to the clothes pins or cleaning supplies. Dollar Tree has them too....with the kitchen stuff.

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35 Whelen
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Posted - 08/17/2009 :  12:44:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've had good results with bronze wool and Break Free. Bronze wool runs around $5 for 3 pads here, when you can find it.

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Locust Fork
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Posted - 08/17/2009 :  01:08:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've tried the Bronze....and it turns to a rusty mess after it gets used. The other "kitchen" scrubber lasts forever and ever without rusting at all.

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35 Whelen
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Posted - 08/17/2009 :  01:16:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wasn't aware that bronze could rust. A little shot of engine or brake cleaner after use, and it's good as new.

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Edited by - 35 Whelen on 08/17/2009 01:17:09 AM
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Locust Fork
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Posted - 08/17/2009 :  01:23:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe it wasn't the bronze that I used.....it has been so long ago! What is the gold colored ones that are NEXT to the silver ones in the kitchen cleaning section? Whatever that was is the one that wend "super icky" on me. (Sorry)

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D1
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Posted - 08/17/2009 :  01:30:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if it's just surface rust. use a penny and a light lubricant such as Rem Oil Spray. The copper penny under your finger not held in between fingers will cut the rust and not the bluing.
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35 Whelen
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Posted - 08/17/2009 :  01:30:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Locust Fork

Maybe it wasn't the bronze that I used.....it has been so long ago! What is the gold colored ones that are NEXT to the silver ones in the kitchen cleaning section? Whatever that was is the one that wend "super icky" on me. (Sorry)



I can't think of the name of the gold type, but I've used them as well, and they do turn nasty rather quick.

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spasmcreek
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Posted - 08/17/2009 :  3:15:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i use fine steel wool soaked in oxphoblue till i get it like i want...sometimes heat item between applications....them rub & polish with a cloth...can't match everything but does good on many items
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drobs
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Posted - 08/18/2009 :  05:48:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I watched the local gunsmith clean up a bunch of rusty guns using copper wool and and gun oil.

I would go that route over steel wool.

Brownelles has it or it can be found at your local grocery store near the cleaning products.



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Spider7115
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Posted - 08/18/2009 :  06:39:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Locust Fork

Maybe it wasn't the bronze that I used.....it has been so long ago! What is the gold colored ones that are NEXT to the silver ones in the kitchen cleaning section? Whatever that was is the one that wend "super icky" on me. (Sorry)



You might be thinking of copper wool. I think it's called "Chore Boy". That works great, too.

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Edited by - Spider7115 on 08/18/2009 07:07:10 AM
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mond
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Posted - 08/18/2009 :  07:45:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use a washing up pad, & plenty of old engine oil.(for any mild surface rust)




Edited by - mond on 08/18/2009 11:50:58 AM
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Triple 0 steel wool and Craftsmans Air tool oil,, removes and prevents rust from forming again..The air tool oil is lighter than most gun oils and doesnt turn to gunk if left on the gun









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Colt Super
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Posted - 08/18/2009 :  10:18:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by drjew

if it's just surface rust. use a penny and a light lubricant such as Rem Oil Spray. The copper penny under your finger not held in between fingers will cut the rust and not the bluing.



I learned this from an old timer, just a couple of months ago.

It works amazingly well, and can be very precise.

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Posted - 08/18/2009 :  11:55:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Flitz metal polish is used by museums to clean blued weaponry. They also use the flitz gun wax. I use both.

It kicks ass and does not hurt the polish. It saved my old ruger no 1 from rust when put away wet.. actually improved the look of the bluing.

try all the other hack methods and they may work but this is by far superior to steel wool and other quack suggestions.

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Blairweescot
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Posted - 08/18/2009 :  11:58:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coltpax

Will #4 steel wool take off a gun's blueing, or only the rust?



Try a mixture of one part toothpaste to 3 parts gun oil, rubbed in with finger pressure on a clean non-synthetic rag



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JamesRK
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Posted - 08/18/2009 :  12:03:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Flitz metal polish is the best thing Iíve found to remove rust without damage to the finish. Compared to the price of guns, Flitz ainít so bad.


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