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drobs
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bhale187
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 12:51:17 PM
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not the configuration I waant, but a good price. BTW, Del ton has 'mil spec' AR bolts for $110, and spike's has charging handles on sale for $18 right now.
$403+shipping for complete upper ain't bad at all. |
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drobs
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 12:57:51 PM
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quote: Originally posted by bhale187
not the configuration I waant, but a good price. BTW, Del ton has 'mil spec' AR bolts for $110, and spike's has charging handles on sale for $18 right now.
$403+shipping for complete upper ain't bad at all.
I had them toss in a complete bolt assembly for for $125 but forgot the charging handle. Might have to call em back up. |

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dfletcher
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 1:05:39 PM
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| Shoot - cheap uppers and $90.00 Stag lowers. I guess the AR shortage is officially over. |
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bigtire
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 1:09:25 PM
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| Why not get a complete parts kit from Blackthorne for $389. All parts except the stripped lower. Blackthorne got a bad name early on but I have never had problems with them. |

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legear
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 1:59:00 PM
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did you check to see if there is a backlog?
I had a 24" upper on order from Model 1 sales, I was told a it was a backlog of 2 months. It turned into 6 months and took me 2 months to get someone to give me a update on the order. |
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1911a1fan
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 2:06:15 PM
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quote: Originally posted by drobs
Heads up. (Minus Bolt and Charging handle) http://www.dsarms.com/products.asp?dept=59
Just placed my order.
looking forward to a review
bhale do you mean bolt and carrier? |

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bhale187
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 2:38:00 PM
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quote: Originally posted by bigtire
Why not get a complete parts kit from Blackthorne for $389. All parts except the stripped lower. Blackthorne got a bad name early on but I have never had problems with them.
blackthorne is vulcan, I would avoid them regardless of price. |
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bhale187
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 2:39:29 PM
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quote: Originally posted by 1911a1fan
quote: Originally posted by drobs
Heads up. (Minus Bolt and Charging handle) http://www.dsarms.com/products.asp?dept=59
Just placed my order.
looking forward to a review
bhale do you mean bolt and carrier?
Yes, del-ton has bolt and carrier assembly for $110 |
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JustC
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 2:42:21 PM
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| what is the quality like??? how can they sell an M4 upper assembly (minus bolt/bc/ch) for $275?? |
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bhale187
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 3:15:33 PM
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quote: Originally posted by JustC
what is the quality like??? how can they sell an M4 upper assembly (minus bolt/bc/ch) for $275??
Calguns and ar 15.com have got good forum user reviews on them. The only complaint I have heard on them is that they do not use m4 feed ramps-they use the A3 ramps. |
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Mossbergboogie
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 3:18:28 PM
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| DSA is answering there phone again Yay! |
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bhale187
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 3:19:49 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Mossbergboogie
DSA is answering there phone again Yay!
probably won't last long, everytime they have a sale on the uppers they get backed up for weeks. |
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bigtire
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 3:24:48 PM
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quote: Originally posted by bhale187
quote: Originally posted by bigtire
Why not get a complete parts kit from Blackthorne for $389. All parts except the stripped lower. Blackthorne got a bad name early on but I have never had problems with them.
blackthorne is vulcan, I would avoid them regardless of price.
Like I said. I have built several rifles with no problems. |

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JustC
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 5:24:27 PM
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quote: Originally posted by bhale187
quote: Originally posted by JustC
what is the quality like??? how can they sell an M4 upper assembly (minus bolt/bc/ch) for $275??
Calguns and ar 15.com have got good forum user reviews on them. The only complaint I have heard on them is that they do not use m4 feed ramps-they use the A3 ramps.
OK, so what disadvantage is there in having A3 ramps?? Can they be modified by a gunsmith?? |
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MVP
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 5:43:06 PM
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quote: Originally posted by JustC
quote: Originally posted by bhale187
quote: Originally posted by JustC
what is the quality like??? how can they sell an M4 upper assembly (minus bolt/bc/ch) for $275??
Calguns and ar 15.com have got good forum user reviews on them. The only complaint I have heard on them is that they do not use m4 feed ramps-they use the A3 ramps.
OK, so what disadvantage is there in having A3 ramps?? Can they be modified by a gunsmith??
The DSA upper for this price is the lightweight barrel version. There is no dissadvantage to the standard feed ramp cuts but people feel the M4 cuts are an advantage. You would be better off buying an upper with the M4 feed ramps already cut rather than buy one without just to pay someone to recut M4 ramps into the barrel/upper assembly. It wouldn't be cost effective to buy one configuration and have it changed when there are good deals on M4 heavy barrels with the M4 ramps already cut. |

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bhale187
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 5:46:07 PM
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quote: Originally posted by MVP
quote: Originally posted by JustC
quote: Originally posted by bhale187
quote: Originally posted by JustC
what is the quality like??? how can they sell an M4 upper assembly (minus bolt/bc/ch) for $275??
Calguns and ar 15.com have got good forum user reviews on them. The only complaint I have heard on them is that they do not use m4 feed ramps-they use the A3 ramps.
OK, so what disadvantage is there in having A3 ramps?? Can they be modified by a gunsmith??
The DSA upper for is the lightweight barrel version. There is no dissadvantage to the standard feed ramp cuts but people feel the M4 cuts are an advantage. You would be better off buying an upper with the M4 feed ramps already cut rather than buy one without just to pay someone to recut M4 ramps into the barrel/upper assembly. It wouldn't be cost effective to buy one configuration and have it changed when there are good deals on M4 heavy barrels with the M4 ramps already cut.
+1 to all of that. I don't think the m4 ramps have proven to be any advantage over the A3 ramps. They have a little longer and different angle, but I don't know of any type of analysis showing the m4 ramps feed better. |
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cwi555
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 6:33:33 PM
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By any road you choose to get there by; AR's can in fact be had for under 600 bucks for standard configuration.
There were several people on this forum that told me I was full of chit when I stated they would be under 600 soon (2 months I believe at the time).
I'll make another statement at this time. 500 should be the bottom. Anything less than that your running a risk of substandard parts.
Any company needs to make a profit to survive, (unless your on the government/tax payer teat)so buyer beware if your getting it < 500. |
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MVP
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 6:38:06 PM
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Wholesale prices has not changed throughout the whole obama scare buying frenzy. An AR could be assembled for 500.00 before the scare and has remained constant until now. The wholesalers are getting the parts cheaper than that. |

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1911a1fan
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 7:57:56 PM
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i bought a complete dpms m4 upper for 425 a few gun shows ago from these guys
http://www.mapartsinc.com/
m4 vs rifle cuts has been a debate, i dont see how the extra length and 7 degree angle extra could hurt, it was designed for full auto fire, so rapid fire could benefit, and may benefit a faulty magazine
i will not buy a receiver that has m4 cuts after the anodizing, or cut them , i think it defeats the hardness of anodizing aluminium and exposes that part to a softer aluminium |

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bigtire
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 8:02:11 PM
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quote: Originally posted by MVP
Wholesale prices has not changed throughout the whole obama scare buying frenzy. An AR could be assembled for 500.00 before the scare and has remained constant until now. The wholesalers are getting the parts cheaper than that.
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cwi555
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 8:02:18 PM
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It is not a constant. The difference between then and now is felt in the value of the dollar. If your a wholesaler good for you, but I refer to the average customer. I will stand by the 500 dollar bottom price warning.
quote: Originally posted by MVP
Wholesale prices has not changed throughout the whole obama scare buying frenzy. An AR could be assembled for 500.00 before the scare and has remained constant until now. The wholesalers are getting the parts cheaper than that.
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JustC
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 9:28:49 PM
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quote: Originally posted by 1911a1fan
i bought a complete dpms m4 upper for 425 a few gun shows ago from these guys
http://www.mapartsinc.com/
how come they don't list a manufacturer for the uppers?? can you request DPMS for their prices?? I need another upper,..or two |
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drobs
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Posted - 01/05/2010 : 11:45:16 AM
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Dagnambit! Got a new copy of Shotgun News and I see DS Arms has added a chrome lined m4 upper + a mid length fluted barrel nitride coated upper.
Thinking I need the mid-lenght upper to go with this one:

by the by the DSA uppers have M4 cut ramps. |

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LIKTOSHOOT
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Posted - 01/05/2010 : 12:50:39 PM
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I guess it`s deal, maybe? It is not complete as it lacks the charging handle and bolt carrier assembly AND a chrome barrel and chamber. So. $275.00 Upper $145.00 Lowend non-chrome bolt carrier/chrome add $40.00 $16.00 charging handle $40.00 Chrome lined barrel/chamber
Total.$476.00 deduct $40.00 chrome lined or add $40.00 chrome bolt. $436.00 low or $496.00 loaded.
I just bought a complete rifle kit for $535.00 it inculdes everything sans the lower receiver, but does contain all the parts to build a complete receiver, so add $100.00 lower and get a complete rifle. Total $635.00 Maybe a deal for some.
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armilite
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Posted - 01/05/2010 : 4:24:07 PM
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 2:42:21 PM what is the quality like??? how can they sell an M4 upper assembly (minus bolt/bc/ch) for $275?? applying physics over great expanses,...gotta love the long shots
That is not that great of a deal. When you add the price of a complete bolt carrier and charging handle to a plain jane light barreled upper. Your well over $400 and you still have a plane jane upper. When most of the uppers get down into that price range only then will it be better. |
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1911a1fan
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Posted - 01/05/2010 : 4:28:52 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by drobs
Dagnambit! Got a new copy of Shotgun News and I see DS Arms has added a chrome lined m4 upper + a mid length fluted barrel nitride coated upper.
Thinking I need the mid-lenght upper to go with this one:

by the by the DSA uppers have M4 cut ramps. [/quot]
i would rather have a chromoly steel barrel than a chrome lined in an ar |

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