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1fisher
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  3:45:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An ad in our newspaper today just says "Haskell .45 semi-auto pistol".

I have never heard of them, but looking on the web it looks like it is actually one of the cheap Hi-point guns - but manufactured by Haskell.

Is this just a regular (plastic) Hi-point? Or is it something different? On the auction side, I see magazines, but no pistols.

There ain't many troubles that a man can't fix with seven hundred dollars and a thirty-aught six -- Lindy Wisdom (daughter of Jeff Cooper)

realspeed
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  3:46:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
its pre-hipoint, but not as good as the current made HP's
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shilowar
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  3:57:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by realspeed

its pre-hipoint, but not as good as the current made HP's



isn't that an oxymoron?
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realspeed
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  4:02:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no not really hp are good cheap guns, we have had this discussion
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beantownshootah
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  4:39:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by realspeed

no not really hp are good cheap guns, we have had this discussion



That depends a little bit on your definition of "good".

Personally, I wouldn't classify a Hi-Point as "good". They're made of low-end materials, have poor triggers and balance, are ugly, not particularly accurate, and generally offer less than perfect reliability.

They will go "bang" often enough that I'd rather have one than a rock or a pointed stick.

Anyway, here's a Haskell:
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1fisher
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  4:44:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the replies! I have not heard that name before.

That is one ugly pistol - I think I'll let somebody else take a chance on it.

There ain't many troubles that a man can't fix with seven hundred dollars and a thirty-aught six -- Lindy Wisdom (daughter of Jeff Cooper)
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fastcarsgofast
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  4:58:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is a great paper weight.

Psalms 144: Blessed be the LORD, my rock, who trains my hands for battle, my fingers for war;
My safe guard and my fortress, my stronghold, my deliverer, My shield, in whom I trust, who subdues peoples under me.

Psalms 121: I lift my eyes up to the mountains, where does my help come from? My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth.

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Grasshopper
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  5:54:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Eddie is the owners first name.
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MVP
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  5:54:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't remember ever seeing a discussion where the consensus was that High Points are good.


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35 Whelen
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  6:53:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fastcarsgofast

It is a great paper weight.



I'd hate to be that stack of paper.


The proper term for a Hi-Point or Haskell isn't "semi-auto", it's "randomly functional".

I stand my ground for the very last time
Gun is ready as I stand in line
Nervous wait for the whistle to blow
Rush of blood and over we go

Blood is falling like the rain
Its crimson cloak unveils again
The sound of guns can't hide their shame
And so we die on Paschendale


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Edited by - 35 Whelen on 10/19/2010 6:55:46 PM
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realspeed
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  6:56:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
say what you will about them. but i have sent more glocks and such back for repair than hp's
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35 Whelen
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  6:59:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by realspeed

say what you will about them. but i have sent more glocks and such back for repair than hp's



We've already had that discussion too.

I stand my ground for the very last time
Gun is ready as I stand in line
Nervous wait for the whistle to blow
Rush of blood and over we go

Blood is falling like the rain
Its crimson cloak unveils again
The sound of guns can't hide their shame
And so we die on Paschendale


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7av6mgdeCkY&feature=share


Vertroue in God en die Mauser.
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shilowar
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  6:59:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MVP

I don't remember ever seeing a discussion where the consensus was that High Points are good.




Thank You
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shilowar
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  7:00:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by realspeed

say what you will about them. but i have sent more glocks and such back for repair than hp's



That's because most HPs are thrown into a lake or a landfill after one use
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fastcarsgofast
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Posted - 10/20/2010 :  09:09:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 35WhelenClassic

quote:
Originally posted by fastcarsgofast

It is a great paper weight.



I'd hate to be that stack of paper.


The proper term for a Hi-Point or Haskell isn't "semi-auto", it's "randomly functional".

That is funny right there.

Psalms 144: Blessed be the LORD, my rock, who trains my hands for battle, my fingers for war;
My safe guard and my fortress, my stronghold, my deliverer, My shield, in whom I trust, who subdues peoples under me.

Psalms 121: I lift my eyes up to the mountains, where does my help come from? My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth.

"Perfection is the enemy of good enough." (Mikhail Kalashnikov)

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." (Sigmund Freud)

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beantownshootah
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Posted - 10/20/2010 :  10:56:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by realspeed

say what you will about them. but i have sent more glocks and such back for repair than hp's


At best, this return statistic is meaningless.

Do you actually believe that Glocks are less reliable than Hi Points?

Put differently, which would you pick to bring to a fight if you knew your life was going to be on the line? Which would you buy for your wife?

Its a different type of customer who buys a Glock vs a Hi Point. The Glock shooter is expecting high reliability and is probably going to be putting a good amount of ammo through the gun in testing it out and practicing over time.

The Hi-Point buyer, on the other hand, has little intention of shooting it regularly, and they probably couldn't even afford to routinely put boxes of ammo through the pistol even if they wanted to. They're buying what amounts to a "disposable" gun (either for emergency use only, or for mischief), and they know it at the outset.

I'd bet that 90%+ of Hi point buyers never even put a full box of ammo through their gun, and any that do but experience malfunctions aren't likely to complain about it.

One thing I will mention that is actually good about Hi-Points is that they use a bright dayglo orange front sight that is easy to see. Whether or not the bullets will actually go to where that sight is pointing is a whole other matter. Of course you can get the same effect with a $1 bottle of enamel paint on any other gun of your choice, but still. . .its a nice touch.

My issue with Hi-Points isn't their lack of quality. . .lets face it, nobody is expecting a service or match-grade pistol for $150 retail. . .its just that for really not that much more money, you can get a much better gun on the used or surplus market.

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