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GuvamintCheese
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  12:17:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How does this help?

River Rat
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  12:20:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, if you're caught bringing it across state lines --- are you arrested?

I have this picture in my mind of a 1930s Ford roadster, with a trunk full of lead-based paint.

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GuvamintCheese
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  12:23:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I dont know, I just went in a Lowes in Marietta Oh., and they are not allowed to sell oil based paint. If I buy it here in WV (I live on the border) I can't take it back in Ohio either.
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Originally posted by cartod

How does this help?



leaves more for the rest of us.....
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MrM1A1
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Link? That just doesn't sound right.

Is the opposite of progress.....congress?

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GuvamintCheese
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  12:26:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by MrM1A1

Link? That just doesn't sound right.

No link, just Lowes paint guys.
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hillbille
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  12:28:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cartod

I dont know, I just went in a Lowes in Marietta Oh., and they are not allowed to sell oil based paint. If I buy it here in WV (I live on the border) I can't take it back in Ohio either.



If your scared, LOKO may smuggle it back over for you.....

besides you should be deer hunting, not painting...

Edited by - hillbille on 12/01/2010 12:29:47 PM
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GuvamintCheese
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Originally posted by MrM1A1

Link? That just doesn't sound right.

http://paintingyourhouse.info/oil-based-paint-ban.htm
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CaptFun
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  12:48:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thats really nice. All the trim in my house is oil based. Latex wont stick worth a damn on top of it.

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What about varnishes?

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Sawz
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  10:06:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CaptFun

Thats really nice. All the trim in my house is oil based. Latex wont stick worth a damn on top of it.


Just need to sand it to break the glaze, and or put primer like Kilz on it then your Latex

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bpost
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  10:36:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not EXACTLY the story from the Lowes guy; Ohio requires low VOC paints and products now. It seems the earth is going to die in just a few weeks unless we reduce VOC's in Ohio but in WV it will be OK.

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41 nut
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  11:17:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oil base paint has been banned in Maine for a few years. With water base I have to paint my steps every summer. Water base paint is not worth a darn for outside use.
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COLT
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  11:36:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, how absurd!

Latex trim paint is total S_ _ _! Doesnt stick to any trim well even it is new, raw wood...and as the Capn' said, REALLY doesnt stick over oil.

Latex enamel gets hit, dinged, scratced, it starts to peel...can peel strips of the stuff off...like an entire door if you keep peeling. It does not sand either. Ding it and try to sand it...and it just starts to roll & ball up making a bigger boo-boo. To get the door, or jam, whatever looking really nice again, you about have to go thru the labor intensive stripping of the old latex...basically start all over, a big PIA.

Oil base enamel gets dinged...you can sand the spot and feather it down smooth and paint over it just fine.

Of course the idiot politicians that listen to the tofu eating greenies that cry about this crap have NO idea of how the oil or latex paints work...or in the case of latex enamel, dont work.
Maybe they will get lucky and get to use some the next time they paint their interior.

Latex for exterior is fantastic...lasts fine. The very best was lead based exterior...seen it last 20 years without peeling, it just wore thin...never peeled.
But...they screwed that paint up too so we could all be protected, dumb azz's.

Now go out and hug a greenie whacko that just screwed up your State with this absurd regulation. The greenies dont like it because its petroleum based and takes petroleum based products to clean up the brushes & equipment used to apply it...the greenies need to be HUNG, and FAST...

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GuvamintCheese
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  11:39:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
.....Not to mention the fire and water damage that can be contained only with oil based paint.!
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Mk 19
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  11:44:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would expect that from California, but Ohio? Arn't y'all soposed to be immune to left wing envio-wacko tree-hugging ideas?

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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  11:49:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
<---The little mouse warned you It was coming down the pipe.

quote:
Originally posted by Mk 19

I would expect that from California, but Ohio? Arn't y'all soposed to be immune to left wing envio-wacko tree-hugging ideas?



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Edited by - FrancF on 12/01/2010 11:51:52 PM
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select-fire
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Posted - 12/02/2010 :  04:52:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds like a color copier and a new lable on the can will cure the problem.
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Simple Man
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Posted - 12/02/2010 :  07:57:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CaptFun

Thats really nice. All the trim in my house is oil based. Latex wont stick worth a damn on top of it.



It will if you use a transfer primer like Kilz.




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bobski
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Posted - 12/02/2010 :  08:58:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
latex on oil, not oil on latex captfun. gotta use a primer.

oil is being phased out as the vehichle to transfer paint. water base is taking over.

oil is smoother and takes longer to dry, keeping paint soft and durable. once the oil disipates, the paint remains. it is the prefered.
problem with latex is it disipates faster than oil. paint doesnt get a chance to harden up. thus latex is prone to cracking faster.
many may challege this.
but bottom line, oil is better.

lead is best. from what i gather, they still use lead paint in canada to combat the extreme cold.
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LesWVa
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Originally posted by bobski
lead is best. from what i gather, they still use lead paint in canada to combat the extreme cold.



Canada banned lead based paints back in 1976.

New Jersey also has a ban on oil based paints.

"Known to cause cancer in the state of California". Seems to be spreading eastward like a case of aids.
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CaptFun
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Posted - 12/02/2010 :  4:54:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Simple Man

quote:
Originally posted by CaptFun

Thats really nice. All the trim in my house is oil based. Latex wont stick worth a damn on top of it.



It will if you use a transfer primer like Kilz.



That's what the paint man said last time. I scuff sanded, shot it with Kilz. (I use an HVLP sprayer on the trim.) Let it cure up per the can instructions and then shot it with two coats of good Shermin Williams trim paint. (None of that Behr or Valspar crap the big boxes sell)

If I was not super careful taking off the mask it would peel the paint right off the trim. Even months later you could scrape it right off with a fingernail. all the way down to the original oil paint.

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Mr. Perfect
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Posted - 12/02/2010 :  5:09:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used to work at sherwin williams. There are far too many applications where nothing but oil based will work. This is madness. I also wouldn't be buying my paint from Lowes, but that's just my opinion.

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Mr. Perfect
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Posted - 12/02/2010 :  5:10:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CaptFun

quote:
Originally posted by Simple Man

quote:
Originally posted by CaptFun

Thats really nice. All the trim in my house is oil based. Latex wont stick worth a damn on top of it.



It will if you use a transfer primer like Kilz.



That's what the paint man said last time. I scuff sanded, shot it with Kilz. (I use an HVLP sprayer on the trim.) Let it cure up per the can instructions and then shot it with two coats of good Shermin Williams trim paint. (None of that Behr or Valspar crap the big boxes sell)

If I was not super careful taking off the mask it would peel the paint right off the trim. Even months later you could scrape it right off with a fingernail. all the way down to the original oil paint.

did you try oil based kilz?

"When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace." -Jesus

"Also he [David] bade them teach the children of Judah [the use of] the bow" -Samuel

"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

Some will die in hot pursuit and fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit while sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain

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