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shaneg
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Posted - 01/15/2011 :  6:13:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi i have found a lot of info on this cartridge such a dimensions where to buy brass and so forth but any help on where i can get a set of dies would be great, i seem to have hit a wall there, or if anybody has any brass laying around so i don't have to buy several hundred just to see if i'm going to like this thing i would certainly be greatful. thanks shaneg

FEENIX
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Posted - 01/15/2011 :  8:08:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the forum and enjoy! I too am interested what a "30 i cl magnum" is?

Hopefully, the pros will chime in soon. Good luck!



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nononsense
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Posted - 01/15/2011 :  10:36:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
shaneg,

.300 ICL Tornado = .308 Win. Improved

.30-06 ICL Caribou = .30-06 Improved

.300 ICL Grizzly Cub = 2.5" belted magnum cases .308 Norma Mag or .264 Win. Mag.

.300 ICL Grizzly = .300 H&H Improved

Dies will have to be custom made which can be handled by RCBS, CH4D or Redding. Forster might be willing also. Don't expect these to be in stock anywhere since the cartridges were designed originally in the early '60s and did not garner a large following other than for the rifles built in the Juencke-Saturn shop. Finding an existing set would be a miracle of stumbling into some old gunshop run by an old fashion wildcatter.

Any of the Ackley Improved style cartridges will be an equivalent of these cartridges without all the drama. The differences are minimal and unimportant.

Best.









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shaneg
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Posted - 01/16/2011 :  08:37:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the info, was kind of a fluke this rifle came from a friend's dad's closet after he passed. thank you for the help, shaneg
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shaneg
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USA
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Posted - 01/16/2011 :  08:41:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
feenix i am sure not an expert but the 30 icl mag is based off of a 284 win mag necked out to 30 cal. and the shoulder brought in to 50 degrees, i have3 found alot of info we where just wondering if we could build some rounds without breaking the bank
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nononsense
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Posted - 01/16/2011 :  10:20:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
shaneg,

There is no such thing as a '284 win mag'.

There is the .264 Win. Mag. cartridge. This would be the same as the ICL Grizzly Cub. This could be fireformed in the existing rifle's chamber. Then you send 3 - 5 cases off to a custom die maker such as Redding, CH4D or RCBS to have the dies made.

Also, the shoulder angle is 45 degrees from my drawings and data files.

Best.








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