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wallyent
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USA
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  11:52:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have an old Lionel Train set that is a good friends childhood set. He wishes to sell it and we have no idea its worth or even what scale it is. Any knowledgeable train people here that could help? Have no train knowledge but all looks to be in pretty decent condition. A little dust. Original main box is quite rough and a top piece missing.






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retroxler58
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USA
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  11:54:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guage is 'O27' as you can see on the boxes...
Value is pretty damn high...
but, still determined by the buyers market on any particular day.

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guns-n-painthorses
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  11:58:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

It is a "027" gauge set. It's not a high dollar set, as it's not that old. However, with it having the boxes, that sure helps the value. Condition is everything with Lionel trains.
E-bay will be your best guide to the value of the set. Best research it there as well. If you list, let me know.
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retroxler58
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USA
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  11:58:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's you a jumping off point... As to Current Possible Values... Good Luck!

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Barzillia
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  12:01:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is a basic entry level locomotive and train set, nice to see the original boxes.

Late 40's, mid 50's.

It would be important to know the engine works.

Tough time to sell anything, and might be better to part it out.

$300 would be a hopeful target.


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guns-n-painthorses
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  12:05:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here you go, this will give you an exact idea of value!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Lionel-Train-Outfit-No-1500-Engine-Cars-Track-/120680988427?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item1c1925bf0b
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txlawdog
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USA
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  12:29:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very nice! Good luck!
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babun
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  12:33:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is the basic "under the Christmas tree set" of the 50's to 60's. There are loads of them NOT selling in antique malls around here for $100. You should search on each of the cars.. your 6032 is worth about $15. BUT other versions of a like gondola car may bring $100.
Bob

Edited by - babun on 02/06/2011 12:39:48 PM
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Old-Colts
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USA
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  1:25:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Lionel set appears to be in pretty good shape, but it is the basic starter set from the period. Since that particular set (Outfit No. 1500 “027” 3-Car Freight Set, no whistle, no smoke) has the 6066T Tender, that would put it as a 1953 Catalog set. It would have originally come with a 1130 Locomotive, 6066T Tender, 6032 Gondola, 6034 Baby Ruth Box Car, 6037 Caboose, eight 1013 027 Curved Track, 1 1018 027 Straight Track, 1 6009 027 Uncoupling Track, and 1 1012 35 Watt Transformer.

Since it isn’t one of the higher end sets, the value isn’t very high. However, as a complete set if all of the boxes are still with the set, I don’t see the box for the Box Car; it does increase its value. Watch the auction that guns-n-painthorses's linked to and that will give you a good idea of current value.

Added: Typically on the bottom of the set box you'll see a circle with the box manufacturer information in and around the circle. You might find a year stamp above or below the circle also and if it is there it will probably be stamped either "53" or "54".

Edited by - Old-Colts on 02/06/2011 1:56:18 PM
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spasmcreek
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  1:28:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
looks like one i had as a kid that stupid retard brother took apart to see whatever & couldn't make it go again....does this one smoke too with a pellet ???
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grumpygy
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USA
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  1:41:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep 027

Google "lionel 027" you will get lots of hits Know I saw some great stuff on flea-bay.
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grumpygy
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USA
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  2:03:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is one that did sell

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=92953
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grumpygy
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  2:05:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also just found think the 027 = O gauge.
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Old-Colts
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USA
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  2:33:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
“027” and “0” gauge track all have the same distance between rails, the primary differences are the radius of the curved tracks and the circle they make. “027” gauge track will make a 27 inch diameter circle and “0” gauge track will make a 31 inch diameter circle. The height and track section length are different too, “027” is 7/16 inches high and 8 7/8 inches long (straight track) while “O” is 11/16 inches high and a straight section of track is 10 inches long.

“O” gauge was developed primarily to accommodate the larger engines and tenders that needed a more gradual radius so the drivers and wheel sets could easily make the curves and not jump the track.
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wallyent
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USA
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Posted - 02/06/2011 :  4:29:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks! Lots of great help.

wallyent
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