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bambambam
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Posted - 06/22/2013 :  3:09:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have an ultrasonic cleaner that cleans brass really well, but it doesn't leave a good shine.

After looking at some YouTube videos, I think the dryer motor or the HVAC motor I have would be a good candidate for a wet tumbler. The HVAC motor is 1625 RPM 1/4HP 230 volt. That should run it at a real low amperage.

Most designs I have saw use pillow blocks & a couple TGP rods. I think I'll use a 5 gallon bucket or a really large diameter piece of PVC. Either way I'm going to put a few small "paddles" inside to stir up the media & brass so them tumble inside as they spin.

Anyone else have ideas on making one or have already done so?




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midnightrunpaintballer
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Posted - 06/23/2013 :  12:24:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Regular old vibrating tumbler with corn cob always shined em up enough for me. Just how shiny do you need them?
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charliemeyer007
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Posted - 06/23/2013 :  12:44:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The odd job concrete mixer is 7 gal, liquid tight, and has built in mixing paddles. Use a wood frame and 4 inch plastic pipe for the rollers. Try for 33 rpm of the drum.

http://www.amazon.com/Scepter-04239-7-Gallon-Odjob-Mixer/dp/B000BPK766/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371962402&sr=8-1&keywords=odd+job+concrete+mixer

Edited by - charliemeyer007 on 06/23/2013 12:45:58 AM
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casper1947
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Posted - 06/23/2013 :  12:05:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would not exceed 60 rpm.
You might check:
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=598454

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FrancF
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Posted - 06/23/2013 :  6:26:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There cheap enough- also look for rock tumblers.
http://www.thumlerstumbler.com/rotary.html

Parts and supply's-
http://rocktumbler.com/tumbler-parts.shtml

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Edited by - FrancF on 06/23/2013 6:29:51 PM
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bambambam
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Posted - 06/23/2013 :  11:48:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FrancF

There cheap enough- also look for rock tumblers.
http://www.thumlerstumbler.com/rotary.html

Parts and supply's-
http://rocktumbler.com/tumbler-parts.shtml



Thanks, I can use some of these parts. It will cut down on my amount of fab & on parts that move.

We had some low RPM motors on machines at work & I need one of those "round" belts. Pretty good prices on the site.




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Riomouse911
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Posted - 06/25/2013 :  12:05:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I could see making one so large that the weight of the cases/water/whatever tumbling about against paddles cause handgun cases to bash about and maybe ding the case mouths a bit.
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victorj19
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Posted - 06/26/2013 :  12:08:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I made a dry tumbler last year using an old treadmill that uses a 5 gal bucket. should work wet too. If you're careful you can plug it into a 115V socket. If not don't worry. They have a 12V dc motor you can hook up to a auto battery charger.

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bambambam
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Posted - 06/26/2013 :  01:27:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just found 2 more Dayton motors in my electric supplies cabinet in my shop. One is 10,000RPM & other is 5,000RPM (twin shaft).

Think I could spin the rims off the cases with that 10K RPM motor?




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FrancF
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Posted - 06/27/2013 :  12:05:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bambambam

I just found 2 more Dayton motors in my electric supplies cabinet in my shop. One is 10,000RPM & other is 5,000RPM (twin shaft).

Think I could spin the rims off the cases with that 10K RPM motor?



IIRC most Dayton motors will accept a variable speed controller- The catch, the ones I used to work with had a built in Voltage/load cut off sensor to the motor.

In other words, your speed reduction can be achieved Via a secondary drive reduction so the motor does not see the a heavy load it's turning.

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Smitty500mag
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Posted - 07/02/2013 :  12:42:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you'll keep an eye on E-bay you can run across a Thumler's Tumbler that's a wet tumbler used for polishing rocks for a lot less than they're sold for new and you won't have to mess with making a homemade one. I found my Thumler Tumbler for $35 bucks on E-bay quite a few years ago and those things will run for ever since they're made for tumbling rocks 24 hours a day for a week or two at a time. Of course these days with all the new people getting into reloading they've probably driven the prices up on these too like they have powder and bullets and everything else.

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bambambam
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Posted - 07/02/2013 :  11:30:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Smitty500mag

If you'll keep an eye on E-bay you can run across a Thumler's Tumbler that's a wet tumbler used for polishing rocks for a lot less than they're sold for new and you won't have to mess with making a homemade one. I found my Thumler Tumbler for $35 bucks on E-bay quite a few years ago and those things will run for ever since they're made for tumbling rocks 24 hours a day for a week or two at a time. Of course these days with all the new people getting into reloading they've probably driven the prices up on these too like they have powder and bullets and everything else.



Thanks.




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mango tango
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Posted - 07/08/2013 :  01:42:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The best thing I've ever used for cleaning brass was a Harbor Freight air paint shaker, put a hundred or so shells in with media, adjusted to a slow to medium shake speed, clean as a whistle in about an hour!

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bambambam
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Posted - 07/08/2013 :  05:35:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mango tango

The best thing I've ever used for cleaning brass was a Harbor Freight air paint shaker, put a hundred or so shells in with media, adjusted to a slow to medium shake speed, clean as a whistle in about an hour!



Did you put them in a gallon paint can?




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mango tango
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Posted - 07/09/2013 :  3:04:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bambambam

quote:
Originally posted by mango tango

The best thing I've ever used for cleaning brass was a Harbor Freight air paint shaker, put a hundred or so shells in with media, adjusted to a slow to medium shake speed, clean as a whistle in about an hour!



Did you put them in a gallon paint can?



YES I did, it works awesome and way faster than a tumbler!

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jim_lemay
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Posted - 07/14/2013 :  12:06:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use a Lortone 12 lb tumbler which I bought almost 30 years ago to tumble rocks. I use SS Media with water/soap/surfactant mix. 300-500 45 acp's, 250 223's, or others. Comes out cleaan & shiney inside, outside and cleaned primer pocket as well. Especially tarnished may take 3 hrs.
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