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Queen of Swords
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:05:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your son, --------------------, has been nominated to attend "Careers in National Security: Diplomacy, Intelligence & Defense, a National Youth Leadership Forum. He may choose to attend one of three six-day sessions held this spring in Washington, DC.

At the six-day "Careers in National Security" forum, your son will:

- Discover his passion and develop career goals in foreign affairs and national security.

-Comfront the challenges national security leaders face when analyzing threatening situations, making critical decisions and resolving conflicts.

-Explore a variety of national security specialties.


Shades of the Hitler Youth, or am I just paranoid? And parents are asked not to accompany their children.



"To laugh often and love much; to win the respect of intelligent persons and the affection of children; to earn the approbation of honest citizens and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to give of one's self; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to have played and laughed with enthusiasm and sung with exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived - this is to have succeeded." -Emerson

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fishkiller41
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:12:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No doubt Andrea!!!
Grooming kids nationwide for the NWO!

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tsavo303
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:20:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Relax, be proud ,and have faith in your boy
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35 Whelen
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:21:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think you're being paranoid. Grooming the youth for the "Jungsturm Barack Obama".

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Queen of Swords
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:28:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am always proud of my son, but nobody gets recruited for a national security job out of high school.



"To laugh often and love much; to win the respect of intelligent persons and the affection of children; to earn the approbation of honest citizens and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to give of one's self; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to have played and laughed with enthusiasm and sung with exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived - this is to have succeeded." -Emerson

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fishkiller41
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:31:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

I am always proud of my son, but nobody gets recruited for a national security job out of high school.


Looks like anything's possible,,,doesn't it?
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ChrisInTempe
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:35:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

Your son, --------------------, has been nominated to attend "Careers in National Security: Diplomacy, Intelligence & Defense, a National Youth Leadership Forum. He may choose to attend one of three six-day sessions held this spring in Washington, DC.

At the six-day "Careers in National Security" forum, your son will:

- Discover his passion and develop career goals in foreign affairs and national security.

-Comfront the challenges national security leaders face when analyzing threatening situations, making critical decisions and resolving conflicts.

-Explore a variety of national security specialties.

Shades of the Hitler Youth, or am I just paranoid? And parents are asked not to accompany their children.




I'd say read up on it. If the invitation is real, absolutely leap at it. Give your kid the biggest step up in life you possibly can.


http://www.nylf.org




http://www.nylf.org/ns/
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reloader44mag
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:35:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is the cost of the Forum if any?
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retroxler58
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:37:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

I am always proud of my son, but nobody gets recruited for a national security job out of high school.

That would be my take on it...

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Queen of Swords
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:40:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So why are parents told they cannot attend?



"To laugh often and love much; to win the respect of intelligent persons and the affection of children; to earn the approbation of honest citizens and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to give of one's self; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to have played and laughed with enthusiasm and sung with exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived - this is to have succeeded." -Emerson

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ruger41
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:41:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

I am always proud of my son, but nobody gets recruited for a national security job out of high school.



Don't bet on that...CIA does it on a limited basis. http://www.newsmax.com/US/zero-dark-thirty-cia/2013/01/09/id/470739

The NSA probably does a similar thing.

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ChrisInTempe
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:42:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

I am always proud of my son, but nobody gets recruited for a national security job out of high school.



It's not a job, it's an educational deal, and as such a future recruitment opportunity. College credit is possible through George Mason University.




http://www.nylf.org/ns/about.cfm
About The Forum

The National Youth Leadership Forum on National Security (NYLF/NS): Exploring American Diplomacy, Intelligence, and Defense in Washington, D.C. is a stimulating and challenging six-day program that introduces students to careers in defense, intelligence, and the diplomatic corps.

Students take part in thought-provoking question and answer sessions with highly respected, internationally recognized civilian policy makers and senior military officers, who provide rich insights into current issues and discuss the strategies that helped them succeed. In our nation’s capital, the government's leading academic institutions open their doors to our students, where they are educated in diplomacy, international affairs, and military strategy.

During the course of the Forum, students take part in a national security strategy exercise that draws on their program experiences and teamwork. They employ a crisis decision-making process similar to that employed by the nation's top policy makers, giving them an opportunity to use critical thinking, leadership, and public speaking skills to tackle the complexity of national decision-making.

Some of the distinguished institutions that have participated in the Forum on National Security include:

United States Naval Academy
Pentagon
DEA Museum
Central Intelligence Agency
Naval Criminal Investigative Service
Diplomatic Security Service and the Embassy of Canada
Newseum
Night Vision & Electronic Sensors Directorate
NSA Museum
Navy Yard Museum
National Guard
U.S. Army
U.S. Marine Corps
U.S. Air Force





Eligibility

http://www.nylf.org/ns/eligibility.cfm
National Youth Leadership Forum (NYLF) scholars are nominated by their teachers or mentors, alumni of this or other NYLF programs, or are nominated based on information provided on voluntary pre-college surveys, such as the survey conducted by the National Research Center for College and University Admissions.

All scholars who attend are in the 10th through 12th grade. The Forum on National Security sets the strictest standards for nomination and enrollment, as only the nation’s highest-achieving students qualify for selection. This ensures an unparalleled experience for Forum on National Security scholars who develop relationships with peers that benefit them for life. If you require further information, contact the Office of Admissions.
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reloader44mag
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:43:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

So why are parents told they cannot attend?

Click on the link chrisintempe posted...may answer some of your questions...and there is a tuition to attend...my guess is NOT CHEAP
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grumpygy
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:44:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Eligibility

National Youth Leadership Forum (NYLF) scholars are nominated by their teachers or mentors, alumni of this or other NYLF programs, or are nominated based on information provided on voluntary pre-college surveys, such as the survey conducted by the National Research Center for College and University Admissions.

All scholars who attend are in the 10th through 12th grade. The Forum on National Security sets the strictest standards for nomination and enrollment, as only the nations highest-achieving students qualify for selection. This ensures an unparalleled experience for Forum on National Security scholars who develop relationships with peers that benefit them for life. If you require further information, contact the Office of Admissions.

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grumpygy
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Tuition Costs, Scholarships & Financial Aid


The National Youth Leadership Forum on National Security (NYLF/NS): Exploring American Diplomacy, Intelligence, and Defense is a tuition-based program. Tuition includes: accommodations, breakfasts and dinners, instruction, supervisory personnel, program materials, all forum activities, and private motor coach transportation during the program and is $1,685 for the fall 2013 sessions. Students will need money at the program only for lunches and incidentals they wish to purchase.

Transportation to and from Washington, D.C. is not included. Shuttle service between the forum location and selected airports is available on the first and last days of the Forum. There is a $50 roundtrip fee for this service. Forum staff will be on-site in local airports to assist arriving students.



Financial Assistance

Sponsorships and Student Fundraising Guide

The National Youth Leadership Forum (NYLF) makes every effort to assist students with gathering funds for part or all of their tuition through fundraising and scholarships.

If you require financial assistance, NYLF has prepared a special Sponsorships and Student Fundraising Guide to help you raise the necessary funds within your community. In addition, the Office of Admissions is available to guide you in your fundraising efforts. Need a great idea for fundraising? Read the success stories of students who raised full or partial tuition to attend their program.

For more information regarding fundraising, please contact the Office of Admissions. If you or one of your sponsors have fundraising checks to send in, please use this form to submit them. Including this form with the checks will help us to allocate the funds quickly and accurately.


Scholarships

We are proud to award a limited number of Jay Coupe Memorial Scholarships to qualified students based on financial need, scholastic merit, leadership achievements, and other factors.


Fall 2013:
If you have received a formal invitation to a fall session of the National Youth Leadership Forum on National Security: We regret to inform nominees that at this time the scholarship application deadline for the fall sessions has passed.

We regret any inconvenience this may cause, and encourage scholars to leverage the tools offered through our easy-to-use online, interactive Sponsorships & Student Fundraising Guide.




For 6 days.

quote:

Online enrollment is open for
Fall 2013 sessions.

Session Dates
September 24 - 29, 2013
October 1 - 6, 2013
October 8 - 13, 2013


Edited by - grumpygy on 09/03/2013 8:45:50 PM
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Queen of Swords
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:45:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
450 bucks. Less than my daughters Sr. Trip to NYC.



"To laugh often and love much; to win the respect of intelligent persons and the affection of children; to earn the approbation of honest citizens and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to give of one's self; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to have played and laughed with enthusiasm and sung with exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived - this is to have succeeded." -Emerson

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grumpygy
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:48:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

450 bucks. Less than my daughters Sr. Trip to NYC.



Look up at my post says its more than that.
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ChrisInTempe
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:53:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are you sure this is the NSA that sent the letter? Is that what's on the letterhead?

On the high school recruitment point ...

An old friend of mine was recruited out of her senior year in High School by the CIA. Had a gift for languages and taking odd bits of information into her head and finding how they connected. Crazy-talented with puzzles. They encouraged her to pursue college and take certain courses, then come see them if her grades were above a certain level. Possibility of a scholarship was discussed.

Instead of pursuing it she went to Italy with her father, an Air Force Colonel at the time. Took a secretarial job on a NATO base. Got to see Italy.

Came back engaged to a Marine.

Biggest mistake she ever made in her life. Her words, not mine.

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austin20
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  8:56:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

Your son, --------------------, has been nominated to attend "Careers in National Security: Diplomacy, Intelligence & Defense, a National Youth Leadership Forum. He may choose to attend one of three six-day sessions held this spring in Washington, DC.

At the six-day "Careers in National Security" forum, your son will:

- Discover his passion and develop career goals in foreign affairs and national security.

-Comfront the challenges national security leaders face when analyzing threatening situations, making critical decisions and resolving conflicts.

-Explore a variety of national security specialties.


Shades of the Hitler Youth, or am I just paranoid? And parents are asked not to accompany their children.

The part about parents asked not to accompany would be somewhat of a red flag to me.
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ChrisInTempe
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  9:05:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by austin20

quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

Your son, --------------------, has been nominated to attend "Careers in National Security: Diplomacy, Intelligence & Defense, a National Youth Leadership Forum. He may choose to attend one of three six-day sessions held this spring in Washington, DC.

At the six-day "Careers in National Security" forum, your son will:

- Discover his passion and develop career goals in foreign affairs and national security.

-Comfront the challenges national security leaders face when analyzing threatening situations, making critical decisions and resolving conflicts.

-Explore a variety of national security specialties.


Shades of the Hitler Youth, or am I just paranoid? And parents are asked not to accompany their children.

The part about parents asked not to accompany would be somewhat of a red flag to me.



How many summer pre-college programs want parents to be there with the teenagers? The number of people they would have to transport, house, feed and stay organized around would double or triple. Plus the teens are there to learn, not worry about parents embarrassing them in front of other teens.



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Queen of Swords
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  9:10:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been to college nights.



"To laugh often and love much; to win the respect of intelligent persons and the affection of children; to earn the approbation of honest citizens and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to give of one's self; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to have played and laughed with enthusiasm and sung with exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived - this is to have succeeded." -Emerson

"The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money." -Margaret Thatcher

Come to the dark side...we have cookies.....

Edited by - Queen of Swords on 09/03/2013 9:15:40 PM
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gruntled
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  9:13:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

I am always proud of my son, but nobody gets recruited for a national security job out of high school.



The Army Security Agency, Naval Security Service & Air Force Security Service took people right out of High School. You didn't have to ask or even know they existed, they recruited you right at the induction center.
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mlincoln
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  9:26:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by austin20

quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

Your son, --------------------, has been nominated to attend "Careers in National Security: Diplomacy, Intelligence & Defense, a National Youth Leadership Forum. He may choose to attend one of three six-day sessions held this spring in Washington, DC.

At the six-day "Careers in National Security" forum, your son will:

- Discover his passion and develop career goals in foreign affairs and national security.

-Comfront the challenges national security leaders face when analyzing threatening situations, making critical decisions and resolving conflicts.

-Explore a variety of national security specialties.


Shades of the Hitler Youth, or am I just paranoid? And parents are asked not to accompany their children.

The part about parents asked not to accompany would be somewhat of a red flag to me.



Here's the NSA and CIA, looking for bright, hard-charging, independent young men and women. They're going to put them up in a nice place, talk to them about careers, have them tackle some practice problems, see how they work together and who stands out as a thinker and a leader.

And then here comes some mother holding her boy's hand: "Excuse me, excuse me, the air in here seems quite dry, and Johnny can get a sinus flare up if the humidity drops below 45%. Are those peanuts on that table?!? My son gets hives and facial swelling if he's even in the same room as a peanut. I hope these exercises are fully inclusive and that students who choose to sit and listen and not speak still get full credit. Now I've put SPF 50 on him but the walk across the street to the hotel might take over a minute and I'm worried about him burning. He's got very fair skin. Is there an umbrella available?"

Did you ever think they might not want parents there because, maybe, they're looking for young men and women who might be able to be away from their parents for a few days?

Go ahead and call them and tell them about all your concerns about the thread count of the sheets he'll be sleeping on and will there be a vegan option for all meals served and will there be assigned seats on the bus? I imagine the person you'll talk to will relay all your concerns, and your child's name will be crossed off the list.
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mlincoln
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quote:
Originally posted by austin20

quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

Your son, --------------------, has been nominated to attend "Careers in National Security: Diplomacy, Intelligence & Defense, a National Youth Leadership Forum. He may choose to attend one of three six-day sessions held this spring in Washington, DC.

At the six-day "Careers in National Security" forum, your son will:

- Discover his passion and develop career goals in foreign affairs and national security.

-Comfront the challenges national security leaders face when analyzing threatening situations, making critical decisions and resolving conflicts.

-Explore a variety of national security specialties.


Shades of the Hitler Youth, or am I just paranoid? And parents are asked not to accompany their children.

The part about parents asked not to accompany would be somewhat of a red flag to me.



Here's the NSA and CIA, looking for bright, hard-charging, independent young men and women. They're going to put them up in a nice place, talk to them about careers, have them tackle some practice problems, see how they work together and who stands out as a thinker and a leader.

And then here comes some mother holding her boy's hand: "Excuse me, excuse me, the air in here seems quite dry, and Johnny can get a sinus flare up if the humidity drops below 45%. Are those peanuts on that table?!? My son gets hives and facial swelling if he's even in the same room as a peanut. I hope these exercises are fully inclusive and that students who choose to sit and listen and not speak still get full credit. Now I've put SPF 50 on him but the walk across the street to the hotel might take over a minute and I'm worried about him burning. He's got very fair skin. Is there an umbrella available?"

Did you ever think they might not want parents there because, maybe, they're looking for young men and women who might be able to be away from their parents for a few days?

Go ahead and call them and tell them about all your concerns about the thread count of the sheets he'll be sleeping on and will there be a vegan option for all meals served and will there be assigned seats on the bus? I imagine the person you'll talk to will relay all your concerns, and your child's name will be crossed off the list.
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Txs
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  9:36:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

Interesting letter from NSA to my son...
For clarification, what leads you say the letter was from the NSA?
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quote:
Originally posted by Txs

quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

Interesting letter from NSA to my son...
For clarification, what leads you say the letter was from the NSA?

,,yep,,more like a recruiter/rep that has a quota to fill. I won't pay to be put on a watch list,,,I want the free service,,


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quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

Your son, --------------------, has been nominated to attend "Careers in National Security: Diplomacy, Intelligence & Defense, a National Youth Leadership Forum. He may choose to attend one of three six-day sessions held this spring in Washington, DC.

At the six-day "Careers in National Security" forum, your son will:

- Discover his passion and develop career goals in foreign affairs and national security.

-Comfront the challenges national security leaders face when analyzing threatening situations, making critical decisions and resolving conflicts.

-Explore a variety of national security specialties.


Shades of the Hitler Youth, or am I just paranoid? And parents are asked not to accompany their children.



Kinda sounds like "the scouts" in 1984 to me, but I may be paranoid

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JasonV
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  11:21:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is an opportunity. If he don't like it he can always move on but if he doesn't try he will never know.
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andrewsw16
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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  01:36:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Go for it. Expose your children to the widest range of opportunities. A career in national intelligence and security is a great path. What's wrong with helping to protect our country from the scumbags out for jihad? The people I have known in this career field have been patriots and professionals who work hard to protect our way of life. Don't blame them for the politics played by the high up muckety mucks. Your child must might find a very rewarding career in this area. Send him.

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wpage
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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  05:06:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It sounds like a educational opportunity and something that would shine on a resume if completed by a youth.

How does your son feel about it?

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Waco Waltz
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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  05:41:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's Hilter youth.

There was truth and there was untruth, and if you clung to the truth even against the whole world, you were not mad.
George Orwell, 1984


Maybe someone can explain what I saw once.


Traveling from the Small town of in Idaho to a larger city in ID we observed 5 to 6 jets, smaller military fighter sized jets, they were really high making an exact ID on them impossible but they were all flying a huge grid at the same time and we could tell they were not air liners. The grid was over air space around 10 to 15 miles wide and and as long. I observed the jets multiple times come to the end of the grid and then the trail would stop, they would make a sharp (As sharp as needed) U-turn and re align for another run in the grid and as soon as they came into the grid zone the trail would begin again. One would do it on one side while another jet would do the same thing on the other side while yet another would do this in the middle and side of the grid. Each time, no matter what jet came to the end of the grid no matter the location of the grid the trail stopped. And each time any jet no matter the location entered the grid again the trail would begin again. At no point inside the grid would you see any breaks in the trail. None.
#8232;Now knowing something about the science of contrails I knew the mathematical improbability that the jets were entering and leaving warmer and cooler air pockets at precisely the correct times to form this grid was astronomically high to the point of being absurd to entertain the notion. Again, no where inside the grid was there any break in the trails. I know the jets were not cutting their power. I knew that day that I was witnessing air craft spraying something in the sky and what I was seeing was what people were calling chemtrails. I observed the jets for over an hour from the car as we traveled. I wish I had a video camera back then but I did not. I sat on what I had witnesses for some years and then I observed the internet arguments on the topic. Occasionally I would tell people on forums what I had seen with my own eyes but it would be dismissed as water vapors and warm and cool air pockets. They either were not listening to me or they did not believe I saw what I had related. If I pressed the issue or brought up the odds of improbability they just called me crazy. I knew I was not getting across in words what I had seen so even hand drew an illustration but people just dont want to accept that something might be going on in the sky they cannot explain to stop so the charges that I was nuts continued and of course the personal attacks. When I would enter a topic with this information it was not long that the topic would be closed. Or if posting on Craigs list it would be flagged off with in minutes so fast in fact there has to be more at work then simply the CL community flaggers at work. In San Diegos Craigs List it seems someone has a fast track flag button with anything that gets to close to the truth. The topics are allowed to stay up so long as the debunkers can make fun of the chemtrails truth advocates but post something like I am here and it disappears faster it can be publicly seen. So if nothing is going on then why censor the people talking about the stuff being sprayed?
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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  11:20:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Edward Snowden worked for a NSA as a rent-a-cop; he was able to get a good paying job with a NSA contractor because he was a computer geek, & NSA has no standards for contract employees, as long as they get a security clearance.

Many federal agencies are trying to recruit early. They have to, what with federal jobs getting less desirable every year.

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MG1890
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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  11:32:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We sent our daughter. This is a private organization. Their mission is selling "Leadership Conferences".

No tie to the Government. It was OK for our daughter, but not outstanding. We still get barraged with "invitations" to other programs this outfit offers, all at $1500+.

Private owned, for profit summer camp for smart kids with money.
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Queen of Swords
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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  8:57:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He is a mathematic geek, which makes me very jealous.

And he is not a "momma's boy." His idea of a fun weekend is camping with his buddys up in the woods between their houses in a lean-to made of a few pieces of lumber and a tarp.




"To laugh often and love much; to win the respect of intelligent persons and the affection of children; to earn the approbation of honest citizens and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to give of one's self; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to have played and laughed with enthusiasm and sung with exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived - this is to have succeeded." -Emerson

"The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money." -Margaret Thatcher

Come to the dark side...we have cookies.....

Edited by - Queen of Swords on 09/04/2013 9:05:02 PM
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Rack Ops
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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  9:03:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hell yeah, send him!

He could be our very own sleeper cell
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austin20
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisInTempe

quote:
Originally posted by austin20

quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

Your son, --------------------, has been nominated to attend "Careers in National Security: Diplomacy, Intelligence & Defense, a National Youth Leadership Forum. He may choose to attend one of three six-day sessions held this spring in Washington, DC.

At the six-day "Careers in National Security" forum, your son will:

- Discover his passion and develop career goals in foreign affairs and national security.

-Comfront the challenges national security leaders face when analyzing threatening situations, making critical decisions and resolving conflicts.

-Explore a variety of national security specialties.


Shades of the Hitler Youth, or am I just paranoid? And parents are asked not to accompany their children.

The part about parents asked not to accompany would be somewhat of a red flag to me.



How many summer pre-college programs want parents to be there with the teenagers? The number of people they would have to transport, house, feed and stay organized around would double or triple. Plus the teens are there to learn, not worry about parents embarrassing them in front of other teens.





I get that. However, an unsolicited invitation from an organization like the NSA wanting you to send your child without parental supervision would give me pause.
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Queen of Swords
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quote:
Originally posted by austin20

quote:
Originally posted by ChrisInTempe

quote:
Originally posted by austin20

quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

Your son, --------------------, has been nominated to attend "Careers in National Security: Diplomacy, Intelligence & Defense, a National Youth Leadership Forum. He may choose to attend one of three six-day sessions held this spring in Washington, DC.

At the six-day "Careers in National Security" forum, your son will:

- Discover his passion and develop career goals in foreign affairs and national security.

-Comfront the challenges national security leaders face when analyzing threatening situations, making critical decisions and resolving conflicts.

-Explore a variety of national security specialties.


Shades of the Hitler Youth, or am I just paranoid? And parents are asked not to accompany their children.

The part about parents asked not to accompany would be somewhat of a red flag to me.



How many summer pre-college programs want parents to be there with the teenagers? The number of people they would have to transport, house, feed and stay organized around would double or triple. Plus the teens are there to learn, not worry about parents embarrassing them in front of other teens.





I get that. However, an unsolicited invitation from an organization like the NSA wanting you to send your child without parental supervision would give me pause.



Ya think?!



"To laugh often and love much; to win the respect of intelligent persons and the affection of children; to earn the approbation of honest citizens and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to give of one's self; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to have played and laughed with enthusiasm and sung with exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived - this is to have succeeded." -Emerson

"The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money." -Margaret Thatcher

Come to the dark side...we have cookies.....
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austin20
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quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

quote:
Originally posted by austin20

quote:
Originally posted by ChrisInTempe

quote:
Originally posted by austin20

quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

Your son, --------------------, has been nominated to attend "Careers in National Security: Diplomacy, Intelligence & Defense, a National Youth Leadership Forum. He may choose to attend one of three six-day sessions held this spring in Washington, DC.

At the six-day "Careers in National Security" forum, your son will:

- Discover his passion and develop career goals in foreign affairs and national security.

-Comfront the challenges national security leaders face when analyzing threatening situations, making critical decisions and resolving conflicts.

-Explore a variety of national security specialties.


Shades of the Hitler Youth, or am I just paranoid? And parents are asked not to accompany their children.

The part about parents asked not to accompany would be somewhat of a red flag to me.



How many summer pre-college programs want parents to be there with the teenagers? The number of people they would have to transport, house, feed and stay organized around would double or triple. Plus the teens are there to learn, not worry about parents embarrassing them in front of other teens.





I get that. However, an unsolicited invitation from an organization like the NSA wanting you to send your child without parental supervision would give me pause.



Ya think?!

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1911a1-fan
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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  11:00:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
they know your a member of this forum, they are just trying to get information from you through him



no seriously

not no, but hell no, unattended to a agency that violates everything this country was founded on, I don't think so, they want them young to brainwash them, any older and they can think for themselves, I would be prouder of my son if he drove a trash truck than work for them




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ChrisInTempe
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Posted - 09/04/2013 :  11:43:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still don't get how this is "from the NSA"? Is it a letter on NSA letterhead?

It's a private educational outfit, for profit. Been around 28 years, about 600,000 students in that time have attended these things.

See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envision_EMI
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Txs
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Posted - 09/05/2013 :  06:40:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChrisInTempe

I still don't get how this is "from the NSA"?
Quiet down.

People are on a roll here.
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Don McManus
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quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

I am always proud of my son, but nobody gets recruited for a national security job out of high school.



Eric Snowden was.

'Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.'
Brad Steele.


'The Constitution that was actually enacted and formally amended creates islands of government powers in a sea of liberty. The judicially redacted constitution creates islands of liberty rights in a sea of governmental powers.'
Randy E. Barnett


CA #3
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pwillie
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Posted - 09/05/2013 :  08:04:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Waco Waltz

It's Hilter youth.

Good point Waco,my sentiments also...

"DIXIE"
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serf
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Posted - 09/05/2013 :  08:51:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

I am always proud of my son, but nobody gets recruited for a national security job out of high school.




Does your son have a smart phone? Does he play a lot of interesting games and have social content on line?

Don't think for a minute that everyone is not being monitored and tested for The NWO & Associates. To hire them and/or opposed them.You either with us or against us or not worth it mentality to the ninth degree with the intellectual elites,never forget data mining has many purposes for those in the know.

serf
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Txs
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Posted - 09/05/2013 :  7:51:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Don McManus

quote:
Originally posted by Queen of Swords

I am always proud of my son, but nobody gets recruited for a national security job out of high school.



Eric Snowden was.



All media accounts covering his background that I've seen state he dropped out of high school and held a variety of jobs - including an Army enlistment - before going to work as security guard for NSA.
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chuck
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Posted - 09/05/2013 :  8:16:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HITLER started that back in the 30s
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Glock23Expert
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Posted - 09/05/2013 :  8:42:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I attended the Youth Leadership Forum in DC in February of 1996. Toured Langley, Puzzle Palace, State Department, Andrews AFB, Quantico. Slick Willy was in office at the time so thank goodness we didn't visit the White House.
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