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serf
Anti Gun Lib

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Posted - 09/14/2017 :  11:56:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Well anyone living long enough should know that politicians never say what they mean and never mean what they say! It could be worst however at least some of the illiterate poor Hispanics are Christians! And not Infidel's like The Muslims in Europe!

And you can bet the birth rate and the welfare state will grow exponentially with both Muslims and Hispanics!

serf

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/betrayal-trump-grants-amnesty-to-125000-illegals-in-3-months

The latest betrayal to the Right is the confirmation that Trump’s DHS has issued almost 125,000 “DACA” cards (per Obama’s unlawful Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals order) to illegal aliens through the second quarter of this fiscal year (January through March).

According to newly published data from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the Trump administration has issued 17,275 initial amnesty cards and over 107,500 renewals of existing status.

This surpasses the 122,000 level of amnesty cards issued during the final quarter of Obama’s presidency (Oct. 1-Dec. 31, 2016), which means the Trump administration is not even slowing down the pace! And although the first 20 days of this quarter were still under Obama’s tenure, the Trump amnesty is likely close to 200,000 by now, when extrapolating in the number of presumed cards issued during April and May.

Edited by - serf on 09/14/2017 12:08:51 PM

spasmcreek
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31695 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2017 :  12:16:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
this last election may be the last i vote in....no intergrity or truth left anywhere in govt
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serf
Anti Gun Lib

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Posted - 09/14/2017 :  12:54:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spasmcreek

this last election may be the last i vote in....no intergrity or truth left anywhere in govt



When they allowed The Federal Reserve central Banking followed by The United Nations after WWII with Dual citizenship with Free trade zones then we should have known The NWO was in the making with a police state put into place to the keep law and order with Draconian Surveillance on all subjects for compliance to their dictates & calling it a democracy with equality for all. What a joke it has become under their guise of leadership.

serf
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Barzillia
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Posted - 09/14/2017 :  7:53:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ptsd


pelosi-trump=schumer delusion

"Most people fancy themselves innocent of those crimes of which they cannot be convicted." Seneca

"Hope has two children: anger, and courage." Augustine, Confessions

Der Verzagten aber und Ungläubigen und Greulichen und Totschläger und Hurer und Zauberer und Abgöttischen und aller Lügner, deren Teil wird sein in dem Pfuhl, der mit Feuer und Schwefel brennt; das ist der andere Tod.


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droptop
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USA
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Posted - 09/16/2017 :  9:21:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nothing has happened with illegals, except 10's of thousands have left the U.S. and thousands more aren't crossing the Mexican border. Many are going to Canada where the benefits are better.

Illegals have been a problem for 70 years, think it's going to get fixed in 6 months?
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serf
Anti Gun Lib

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Posted - 09/17/2017 :  10:34:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by droptop

Nothing has happened with illegals, except 10's of thousands have left the U.S. and thousands more aren't crossing the Mexican border. Many are going to Canada where the benefits are better.

Illegals have been a problem for 70 years, think it's going to get fixed in 6 months?




The Democrats will fix it in 2018 and Just like how those three Republican senators that fixed Obama care this year! The rule of law was ignored by the elites as millions of illegal Hispanics poured in to cause this crisis and now they have a solution?

It's a liberal's paradise but I hope they have the money to run their utopian state. So far the elites have been able to hide their money off shore but for how long ? The system is going to crack sooner than later.

serf

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Bruzilla
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2017 :  1:00:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm getting pretty tired of all these "TRUMP IS DOING THIS..." articles from the Never Trumpers. President Trump has never said he objects to the DACA folks. He objected to how DACA was implemented. It is blatantly illegal, and the Congress allowed it to happen because they were willing to trade a violation of the separation of powers for not having to go on record with a vote for this.

President Trump has now forced their hands, and folks on both sides of the isle are going to have to go on the record with a vote. That's the way this country is supposed to work and no one is being betrayed.
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Don McManus
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USA
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Posted - 09/28/2017 :  1:22:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
During the campaign, Trump specifically stated that he would start with removing the bad hombres and we would then decide what to do with everyone else.

Please note that while 'everyone else' included these Childhood Arrivals, it also includes their parents, and all other folks that are in the country and have not been caught committing crimes.

'Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.'
Brad Steele.


'The Constitution that was actually enacted and formally amended creates islands of government powers in a sea of liberty. The judicially redacted constitution creates islands of liberty rights in a sea of governmental powers.'
Randy E. Barnett


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serf
Anti Gun Lib

6194 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2017 :  2:10:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Don McManus

During the campaign, Trump specifically stated that he would start with removing the bad hombres and we would then decide what to do with everyone else.

Please note that while 'everyone else' included these Childhood Arrivals, it also includes their parents, and all other folks that are in the country and have not been caught committing crimes.



Other than transporting illegals across state lines into the USA. Trump said all illegals not the one's who committed crimes in The USA sfter committing the crime to get here.

Trump is just another two face politician| He will legalize all of them for votes just like Hillary would have there is no difference other than trying to stop the inflow because the government does not need them anymore to keep the system alive with young people to pay Taxes and if they can get them educated and working which is a big if!

serf

Mr Trump repeatedly told his supporters that every single undocumented immigrant - of which there are 11.3 million - "have to go".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37982000

Edited by - serf on 09/28/2017 2:15:12 PM
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Don McManus
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USA
25010 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2017 :  2:30:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by Don McManus

During the campaign, Trump specifically stated that he would start with removing the bad hombres and we would then decide what to do with everyone else.

Please note that while 'everyone else' included these Childhood Arrivals, it also includes their parents, and all other folks that are in the country and have not been caught committing crimes.



Other than transporting illegals across state lines into the USA. Trump said all illegals not the one's who committed crimes in The USA sfter committing the crime to get here.

Trump is just another two face politician| He will legalize all of them for votes just like Hillary would have there is no difference other than trying to stop the inflow because the government does not need them anymore to keep the system alive with young people to pay Taxes and if they can get them educated and working which is a big if!

serf

Mr Trump repeatedly told his supporters that every single undocumented immigrant - of which there are 11.3 million - "have to go".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37982000



While his initial position was as you note, serf, but he began his back-pedaling well before election day.

I don't see this as a betrayal other than to those that voted for him in the primary. As with most politicians, he had one stance during the primary which moved to the center during the general election.

Anyone paying attention up to election day was aware that his 'deport them all' position had changed radically, and that he had reduced it to deport criminals with a wait and see for everyone else.

I think we all knew what wait and see means, even if the Trump core did not want to believe it.



'Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.'
Brad Steele.


'The Constitution that was actually enacted and formally amended creates islands of government powers in a sea of liberty. The judicially redacted constitution creates islands of liberty rights in a sea of governmental powers.'
Randy E. Barnett


CA #3

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serf
Anti Gun Lib

6194 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2017 :  12:48:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Don McManus

quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by Don McManus

During the campaign, Trump specifically stated that he would start with removing the bad hombres and we would then decide what to do with everyone else.

Please note that while 'everyone else' included these Childhood Arrivals, it also includes their parents, and all other folks that are in the country and have not been caught committing crimes.



Other than transporting illegals across state lines into the USA.

Trump said all illegals not the one's who committed crimes in The USA sfter committing the crime to get here.

Trump is just another two face politician| He will legalize all of them for votes just like Hillary would have there is no difference other than trying to stop the inflow because the government does not need them anymore to keep the system alive with young people to pay Taxes and if they can get them educated and working which is a big if!

serf

Mr Trump repeatedly told his supporters that every single undocumented immigrant - of which there are 11.3 million - "have to go".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37982000



While his initial position was as you note, serf, but he began his back-pedaling well before election day.

I don't see this as a betrayal other than to those that voted for him in the primary. As with most politicians, he had one stance during the primary which moved to the center during the general election.

Anyone paying attention up to election day was aware that his 'deport them all' position had changed radically, and that he had reduced it to deport criminals with a wait and see for everyone else.

I think we all knew what wait and see means, even if the Trump core did not want to believe it.







I got idea why don't they swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth when campaigning? Oh wait they would not get any lobbyist money or PAC contributions to get elected! That's why.

It's all a big show to make us think we have a free and honest elections.We don't. It's just a big number's game that can be bought by the system.

serf
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Waco Waltz
Advanced Member

USA
12270 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2017 :  06:54:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Simple fix is, campaign promises are classified as advertising and the politician is held to truth in advertising standards.

Allowing politicians to keep lying to get elected has to stop it's a national security threat.




“There was truth and there was untruth, and if you clung to the truth even against the whole world, you were not mad.”
George Orwell, 1984
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serf
Anti Gun Lib

6194 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2017 :  2:53:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Waco Waltz

Simple fix is, campaign promises are classified as advertising and the politician is held to truth in advertising standards.

Allowing politicians to keep lying to get elected has to stop it's a national security threat.



Never will happen Waco.The whole system is setup to think you have a choice.If they can't promise you something and reneged no body could run for office and succeed.

Democracy in a republic is a lie. If voters win on a referendum the courts can overturn it and called it unlawful/unfair to whatever.

It's a con game to lead the sheple to the slaughter house in the end anyway.

serf


Edited by - serf on 11/11/2017 2:53:48 PM
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Waco Waltz
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USA
12270 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2017 :  6:50:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well we are in trouble then if even the Americans on this forum are deceived.




“There was truth and there was untruth, and if you clung to the truth even against the whole world, you were not mad.”
George Orwell, 1984
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