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serf
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Posted - 12/01/2017 :  7:58:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks dire For President Trump! Flynn cop a plead and is turning state evidence today! It's really coming down to this chaos in the government while the wolves outside lick their chops and wait to see America Crash and burn!

The deficit is over 20 trillion and The stopgap kicking the can down the road budget is in jeopardy! A helluva of state affairs in This Chaotic clown's show in Wahington D.C.

serf

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/362558-house-dem-pledges-vote-to-impeach-trump-next-week

The actual House vote will likely only be a procedural vote, but it will still serve as the first referendum in Congress to impeach Trump. It comes when Trump has spent less than 11 months in office.

"Next week, there will be a vote to impeach," Green announced in a House floor speech.

On December 1, 2017, special counsel Robert Mueller agreed to a plea bargain where Flynn pleaded guilty to "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador. Specifically, Flynn is accused of falsely claiming that he had not asked Russia's ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak on December 29, 2016, "to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day."[119] Flynn pled guilty the same day and acknowledged that he was cooperating with the investigation by Mueller.[120] Flynn stated

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35 Whelen
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Posted - 12/01/2017 :  8:00:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.
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serf
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Posted - 12/01/2017 :  8:02:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 35 Whelen

Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.



And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!

serf
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35 Whelen
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Posted - 12/01/2017 :  8:05:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by 35 Whelen

Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.



And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!

serf




Wish in one hand, poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Trump isn't going anywhere.

Edited by - 35 Whelen on 12/01/2017 8:07:29 PM
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serf
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quote:
Originally posted by 35 Whelen

quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by 35 Whelen

Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.



And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!

serf




Wish in one hand, poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Trump isn't going anywhere.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-flynn-charged-with-making-false-statement-to-the-fbi/2017/12/01/e03a6c48-d6a2-11e7-9461-ba77d604373d_story.html

The records say that a “very senior member of the Presidential Transition Team” directed Flynn to contact officials from foreign governments, including Russia, about the U.N. resolution on Israel. That official is also not named, but people familiar with the matter said it refers to Kushner. According to one transition team official, Kushner told Flynn that blocking the resolution was a top priority of the president-elect.
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35 Whelen
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Posted - 12/01/2017 :  8:12:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Washington Post. Yeah, no bias there, huh?
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scrumpyjack
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Posted - 12/01/2017 :  8:15:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Odd. We used to have a “Politics” forum for such topics.
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bigoutside
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Posted - 12/01/2017 :  8:39:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doubtful it comes to vote.

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11b6r
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Posted - 12/01/2017 :  9:14:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would I be terribly out of line if I were to ask you to take your silly assed conspiracy of the day over to Politics- WHERE IT BELONGS ?

"Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can borrow mine."
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mark christian
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Posted - 12/01/2017 :  10:18:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't moderate this particular forum, but as a GB administrator I feel we are well past the point of serf being sent to the Political Forum. Never the less, as long as he stays within the guidelines, it remains the moderator's call as to what is and what is not allowed in GD.
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Don McManus
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quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by 35 Whelen

quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by 35 Whelen

Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.



And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!

serf




Wish in one hand, poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Trump isn't going anywhere.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-flynn-charged-with-making-false-statement-to-the-fbi/2017/12/01/e03a6c48-d6a2-11e7-9461-ba77d604373d_story.html

The records say that a “very senior member of the Presidential Transition Team” directed Flynn to contact officials from foreign governments, including Russia, about the U.N. resolution on Israel. That official is also not named, but people familiar with the matter said it refers to Kushner. According to one transition team official, Kushner told Flynn that blocking the resolution was a top priority of the president-elect.



After the election. It was simply stating that the outgoing temper tantrums of the outgoing child in chief would be replace with the whims of the incoming child in chief. It would have been irresponsible to not have begun contact prior to Inauguration Day.

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ltcdoty
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Posted - 12/01/2017 :  11:06:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its SOP for transition teams to hit the ground running...to assure a smooth transition....there is very little reporting of the other dozen or so countries that Trump's transition teams also contacted.

Just those rascally Ruskies...
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p3skyking
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Posted - 12/01/2017 :  11:09:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Straight skinny

https://www.sofmag.com/former-trump-national-security-adviser-flynn-pleads-guilty-to-lying-to-fbi-in-russia-probe/

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oldWinchesterfan
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  12:19:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a broad based poll of folks that put their own money on the line.

Check what the market did this last week. DOW is up 900 points. A bunch of folks see this differently.
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mjrfd99
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  08:44:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How many times Wall st screwed the little guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU
BOHICA.
The 2 crime families of DC need to be wiped out.

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Doc
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  09:36:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Numerous "Articles of Impeachment" have been filed by lunatic liberal Democrats in Congress and none have any meaning. They do this to make a statement and hit up their donors with fundraising letters. Not that the moronic Democraps don't want to impeach Trump, but as of right now there are no legal grounds to do so.

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wpageabc
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  10:11:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is no impeachable charge that can be leveled against him...

Not going to happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u99Q7pNAjvg
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US Military Guy
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  10:23:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wpageabc

There is no impeachable charge that can be leveled against him...

Not going to happen.



Are you absolutely certain about that?

I ask because I read on the internet it WAS going to happen.

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Don McManus
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If bigotry was grounds for removal, 90% or the CBC would be looking for work.

'Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.'
Brad Steele.


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Spider7115
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  10:27:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since Flynn committed felony perjury and was convicted, I don't see how credible anything he says will be.

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allen griggs
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  11:01:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Flynn conviction is more proof of what a lame case they have against Trump. He wasn't convicted of conniving with the Russians, because, what he was doing was not illegal.
They got him on a CS charge of lying to the FBI.

The Feds sit you down for a dozen three-hour interviews over three months, talking about stuff that happened a year ago, you contradict yourself one time, you are guilty of lying to the FBI.

When we have FBI directors admitting that they leaked to the New York Times, if any evidence had been dug up about Trump illegally colluding with Russkies to screw over Hillary, it would have been leaked out immediately. They got nothing against Trump or we would already know about it.

I watched NBC News with Lester Holt last night at 6:30, they spent the opening ten minutes on this story, they were so excited, as though they finally "got Trump" that you expected the next reporter to say "Trump has been arrested and will be tried tomorrow for treason." Sorry, not gonna happen.
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Barzillia
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Mizaru, Kikazaru, and Iwazaru.


"Most people fancy themselves innocent of those crimes of which they cannot be convicted." Seneca

"Hope has two children: anger, and courage." Augustine, Confessions

Der Verzagten aber und Ungläubigen und Greulichen und Totschläger und Hurer und Zauberer und Abgöttischen und aller Lügner, deren Teil wird sein in dem Pfuhl, der mit Feuer und Schwefel brennt; das ist der andere Tod.


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TooBig
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Just remember at the end of the day Hillary will not be our President

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Barzillia
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  11:24:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You settle for far too low.

"Most people fancy themselves innocent of those crimes of which they cannot be convicted." Seneca

"Hope has two children: anger, and courage." Augustine, Confessions

Der Verzagten aber und Ungläubigen und Greulichen und Totschläger und Hurer und Zauberer und Abgöttischen und aller Lügner, deren Teil wird sein in dem Pfuhl, der mit Feuer und Schwefel brennt; das ist der andere Tod.


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reload999
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  11:27:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank God
quote:
Originally posted by TooBig

Just remember at the end of the day Hillary will not be our President

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Barzillia
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  11:36:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Truer than you may imagine.


"Most people fancy themselves innocent of those crimes of which they cannot be convicted." Seneca

"Hope has two children: anger, and courage." Augustine, Confessions

Der Verzagten aber und Ungläubigen und Greulichen und Totschläger und Hurer und Zauberer und Abgöttischen und aller Lügner, deren Teil wird sein in dem Pfuhl, der mit Feuer und Schwefel brennt; das ist der andere Tod.


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chiefr
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  11:49:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spider7115

Since Flynn committed felony perjury and was convicted, I don't see how credible anything he says will be.




THIS!!

Only credible to the miscreants, liars. and perverts in the media.

Edited by - chiefr on 12/02/2017 11:50:34 AM
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Barzillia
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quote:
Originally posted by chiefr

quote:
Originally posted by Spider7115

Since Flynn committed felony perjury and was convicted, I don't see how credible anything he says will be.




THIS!!

Only credible to the miscreants, liars. and perverts in the media.




He was credible to POTUS.

Still remains so, it seems.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/01/what-trump-has-said-about-michael-flynn-274454

"Most people fancy themselves innocent of those crimes of which they cannot be convicted." Seneca

"Hope has two children: anger, and courage." Augustine, Confessions

Der Verzagten aber und Ungläubigen und Greulichen und Totschläger und Hurer und Zauberer und Abgöttischen und aller Lügner, deren Teil wird sein in dem Pfuhl, der mit Feuer und Schwefel brennt; das ist der andere Tod.



Edited by - Barzillia on 12/02/2017 12:26:30 PM
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john carr
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quote:
Originally posted by oldWinchesterfan

Here's a broad based poll of folks that put their own money on the line.

Check what the market did this last week. DOW is up 900 points. A bunch of folks see this differently.



Right on the mark. Yesterday I received a humongous once a year dividend on a stock I have. Whatever you're doing, Donald, keep it up please.
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grumpygy
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  12:38:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by john carr

quote:
Originally posted by oldWinchesterfan

Here's a broad based poll of folks that put their own money on the line.

Check what the market did this last week. DOW is up 900 points. A bunch of folks see this differently.



Right on the mark. Yesterday I received a humongous once a year dividend on a stock I have. Whatever you're doing, Donald, keep it up please.



I have a Profit sharing check and a Christmas bonus coming. Have been told I will have a very good year.
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serf
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  1:02:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by grumpygy

quote:
Originally posted by john carr

quote:
Originally posted by oldWinchesterfan

Here's a broad based poll of folks that put their own money on the line.

Check what the market did this last week. DOW is up 900 points. A bunch of folks see this differently.



Right on the mark. Yesterday I received a humongous once a year dividend on a stock I have. Whatever you're doing, Donald, keep it up please.



I have a Profit sharing check and a Christmas bonus coming. Have been told I will have a very good year.



Then you could invest in America and buy some treasury bills it's a solid investment for retirement they say!

serf

http://www.businessinsider.com/federal-reserve-rate-hike-plan-to-unwind-45-trillion-balance-sheet-2017-6

While Fed Chair Janet Yellen has a track record of adequately preparing markets for any policy shifts, her term expires next year. A new Fed leader may not be so successful at gently easing Wall Street into tighter lending conditions. Right now, bond traders are complacent about how easy it'll be to allow the Fed to unwind its historically bloated books. It's easy to see how they could be in for an unpleasant surprise.
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jerrywh818
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  2:03:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SERF.
Your so ignorant you don't even know the constitutional requirements for impeachment. Tell me, if you can stop salivating long enough, What impeachable offenses is Trump guilty of. Go back to the Huffington Post forum where you came from. Too many smart people here for a dumb ass to gain a foot hold.
Obama gives the biggest sponsor of terrorism $400,000,000.00 secretly and that is not a impeachable offense? http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438744/iran-ransom-payment-president-obama-broke-law-sending-cash-iran

ant dancer

Edited by - jerrywh818 on 12/02/2017 2:15:33 PM
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serf
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  2:38:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jerrywh818

SERF.
Your so ignorant you don't even know the constitutional requirements for impeachment. Tell me, if you can stop salivating long enough, What impeachable offenses is Trump guilty of. Go back to the Huffington Post forum where you came from. Too many smart people here for a dumb ass to gain a foot hold.
Obama gives the biggest sponsor of terrorism $400,000,000.00 secretly and that is not a impeachable offense? http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438744/iran-ransom-payment-president-obama-broke-law-sending-cash-iran



Unfortunately, we don't get to decide nor know all the facts yet and Obama and Trump are just two sides of the same coin so if your really smart folks are that oblivious so be it. And you are showing ignorance here not me.

The fact of bringing impeachment proceedings to Congress more & more frequently here In The USA should tell you something about the state of affairs in government along with a simple majority to pass very important Congressional laws with vice president breaking the impass should ring some bells also!


serf



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-is-a-simple-majority-usually-not-enough-to-pass-a-bill-in-the-senate/

However, that has been eroding. Back in 2013, Democrats, who at the time controlled the Senate, were so frustrated by the slow pace of confirmation of then-President Obama's nominees that they pulled the trigger on what was known as the "nuclear option." This essentially changed the rules in the Senate and busted the 60-vote threshold down to a simple majority of 51 votes for presidential nominees only.

Fast-forward to 2017, when Republicans chipped a little more away from the 60-vote requirement when they said that Supreme Court nominees would also only need 51 votes to be confirmed.

So things have been changing, yes. But even if that rule were changed to apply broadly to legislation, it would make no difference in the current situation facing Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. They have already been using a 51-vote rule -- in this case, the budget procedure known as "reconciliation" -- to try to get their Obamacare repeal bill passed. Under this rule, they're limited to what they can keep in and what they can leave out. The rule only allows Republicans to touch Obamacare's budget-related provisions, not its regulations. The bill would repeal all of Obamacare's subsidies, taxes, and penalties for those who don't buy insurance, but keeps in place Obamacare's rules about what insurers must cover.

Even with that rule in place, Republicans have been unable to reach the bare majority they need to pass the legislation. Even within their own party, there are divisions, and with a slim 52-48 majority, McConnell has only been allowed to lose two votes before the measure fails. They need near-unanimity if they want to get something done without Democratic support.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/senate-tax-bill-vote-uncertainty/index.html


yea51 Republicans
nay49 Democrats tie-breaking vote from Vice President Mike Pence!


Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote just like the tax bill in 2017

Edited by - serf on 12/02/2017 2:57:04 PM
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droptop
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quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by 35 Whelen

quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by 35 Whelen

Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.



And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!

serf




Wish in one hand, poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Trump isn't going anywhere.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-flynn-charged-with-making-false-statement-to-the-fbi/2017/12/01/e03a6c48-d6a2-11e7-9461-ba77d604373d_story.html

The records say that a “very senior member of the Presidential Transition Team” directed Flynn to contact officials from foreign governments, including Russia, about the U.N. resolution on Israel. That official is also not named, but people familiar with the matter said it refers to Kushner. According to one transition team official, Kushner told Flynn that blocking the resolution was a top priority of the president-elect.



When Trump became president elect. He can talk with any person in any country who will accept his call. Actually, even before difference now is they will accept the call.

Flynn was fired for LYING to the TRUMP administration AFTER Trump was elected.

Personally think it is a little early to be making future predictions.

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Sam06
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  2:54:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pole vaulting over mouse turds.



They should be going after hillery.

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retroxler58
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  3:32:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sam06

Pole vaulting over mouse turds.



They should be going after hillery.

DING DING DING
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NeoBlackdog
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam06

Pole vaulting over mouse turds.



They should be going after hillery.


Bingo!
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bigoutside
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quote:
Originally posted by droptop

quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by 35 Whelen

quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by 35 Whelen

Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.



And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!

serf




Wish in one hand, poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Trump isn't going anywhere.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-flynn-charged-with-making-false-statement-to-the-fbi/2017/12/01/e03a6c48-d6a2-11e7-9461-ba77d604373d_story.html

The records say that a “very senior member of the Presidential Transition Team” directed Flynn to contact officials from foreign governments, including Russia, about the U.N. resolution on Israel. That official is also not named, but people familiar with the matter said it refers to Kushner. According to one transition team official, Kushner told Flynn that blocking the resolution was a top priority of the president-elect.



When Trump became president elect. He can talk with any person in any country who will accept his call. Actually, even before difference now is they will accept the call.

Flynn was fired for LYING to the TRUMP administration AFTER Trump was elected.

Personally think it is a little early to be making future predictions.





That’s an interesting position. Unfortunately it isn’t accurate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

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wifetrained
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  4:31:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No one has ever been prosecuted under the Logan Act. I still can't fathom Sessions not appointing another special counsel to investigate all of Hildebeast's transgressions. Makes one wonder how many are really tied into that slush fund know as the Clinton Foundation.
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serf
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quote:
Originally posted by wifetrained

No one has ever been prosecuted under the Logan Act. I still can't fathom Sessions not appointing another special counsel to investigate all of Hildebeast's transgressions. Makes one wonder how many are really tied into that slush fund know as the Clinton Foundation.



So they both may be crooks Hillary & Trump? You see we get the best money can buy in here in America with The Super_Pacs. The Blind leading the deaf is about all we can vote for now here in America.

The country's democratic system is in shambles and rotten to the core now in my opinion.A perfect Polarity split right down the middle sharing the guilt of a rudderless listing ship taking on water.

What could possible go wrong with this? Maybe a dictatorship you think?

serf

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TooBig
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Bombshell for liberals Obama approved Flynn's Russian phone call DUD

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nmyers
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Gen Flynn can't be too bright. He claims that he is now broke, having spent $1 million on legal fees. Now, I might spend that much if I were certain that I could get out of a mess, I sure wouldn't pay that much & come up a loser!

He flew to the Middle East to have meetings with Egyptians, Saudis, & Russians? That was not only stupid, he violated DOD rules that required permission for foreign travel by those what have, or have had, high level security clearance. And, then he lied about it?

He should have used the same excuse as the Unindicted Conspirator when questioned by the FBI: "I don't recall." Or, Brian Pagliano's excuse: "On advice of counsel, I invoke my 5th Amendment right."

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bigoutside
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  5:50:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Bombshell for liberals Obama approved Flynn's Russian phone call DUD



Well that would make things different. Because he would have been acting under the authority of the then current administration.

Do you have a source for your claim?

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bigoutside
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  5:55:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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No one has ever been prosecuted under the Logan Act. I still can't fathom Sessions not appointing another special counsel to investigate all of Hildebeast's transgressions. Makes one wonder how many are really tied into that slush fund know as the Clinton Foundation.



Sessions, despite having a stunning history of racist behaviors, knows the law.

And I believe he believes in America. Using his office to prosecute political enemies isn’t the way we do things here. Putin would. Sessions, I believe, won’t.

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Barzillia
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  6:33:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by droptop

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Originally posted by serf

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Originally posted by 35 Whelen

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Originally posted by serf

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Originally posted by 35 Whelen

Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.



And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!

serf




Wish in one hand, poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Trump isn't going anywhere.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-flynn-charged-with-making-false-statement-to-the-fbi/2017/12/01/e03a6c48-d6a2-11e7-9461-ba77d604373d_story.html

The records say that a “very senior member of the Presidential Transition Team” directed Flynn to contact officials from foreign governments, including Russia, about the U.N. resolution on Israel. That official is also not named, but people familiar with the matter said it refers to Kushner. According to one transition team official, Kushner told Flynn that blocking the resolution was a top priority of the president-elect.



When Trump became president elect. He can talk with any person in any country who will accept his call. Actually, even before difference now is they will accept the call.

Flynn was fired for LYING to the TRUMP administration AFTER Trump was elected.

Personally think it is a little early to be making future predictions.





Well, you are correct that Trump could call whomsoever he wanted.

But the law was, and remains, that he could not negotiate with a foreign power as a private citizen.

Negotiating with a foreign power is illegal, as president elect or any other elect is still a private citizen.

It doesn't matter whether you like that person or not, we should expect potus elect to at least be trying to uphold the laws of the nation prior to assuming office.

There is no exclusion for whatever elects.

So, the next proper questiosn would be whether he was negotiating.

And whether Trump was actually the one doing the calling.

Obviously he wasn't doing the physical calling. At least, that is what he claims.


There are three paths the investigation is taking, and this is only one.

Should either of the two other join this one, impeachment would be likely, in my opinion.

Step by step.

Brick by brick.


"Most people fancy themselves innocent of those crimes of which they cannot be convicted." Seneca

"Hope has two children: anger, and courage." Augustine, Confessions

Der Verzagten aber und Ungläubigen und Greulichen und Totschläger und Hurer und Zauberer und Abgöttischen und aller Lügner, deren Teil wird sein in dem Pfuhl, der mit Feuer und Schwefel brennt; das ist der andere Tod.


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Barzillia
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  9:01:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No longer alone.....

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/us/russia-mcfarland-flynn-trump-emails.html?_r=0

"Most people fancy themselves innocent of those crimes of which they cannot be convicted." Seneca

"Hope has two children: anger, and courage." Augustine, Confessions

Der Verzagten aber und Ungläubigen und Greulichen und Totschläger und Hurer und Zauberer und Abgöttischen und aller Lügner, deren Teil wird sein in dem Pfuhl, der mit Feuer und Schwefel brennt; das ist der andere Tod.


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35 Whelen
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  9:30:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why is this thread not in the politics forum?
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pip5255
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  9:37:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by 35 Whelen

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Originally posted by serf

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Originally posted by 35 Whelen

Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.



And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!

serf




Wish in one hand, poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Trump isn't going anywhere.



that's something we agree on.................

tired not retired !
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serf
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  10:42:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by pip5255

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Originally posted by 35 Whelen

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Originally posted by serf

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Originally posted by 35 Whelen

Go stick your head in the sand and breathe deep, serf.



And miss the three-ring circus! You can't stop the tidal wave coming if you tried!

serf




Wish in one hand, poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster. Trump isn't going anywhere.



that's something we agree on.................



Neither Did Bill Clinton who never had sex with Monica Lewinsky! What a joke politics has become!

serf

Generally, obstruction charges are laid when it is discovered that a person questioned in an investigation, other than a suspect, has lied to the investigating officer.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics/james-comey-testimony-released/index.html
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roswellnative
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  10:57:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Serf posts and Wallie posts. Why do I even open them.

New Years resolutions...

Ros


Although always described as a cowboy, Roswellnative generally acts as a righter of wrongs or bodyguard of some sort, where he excels thanks to his resourcefulness and incredible gun prowesses.

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jerrywh818
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Posted - 12/03/2017 :  02:03:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Barz.
The national inquirer has more credibility than the NYT.

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