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SCOUT5
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Posted - 01/11/2018 :  5:09:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of my sons was married in Arizona right after Christmas. I had previously not had the opportunity to visit that state. I didn't get to see much of it but enjoyed what I did see.

The wedding was in Queen Creek, which is just east of Mesa. Weather there was dry, clear, with lows in the 40's and highs in the low to mid 70's. That was nice as it was cold back here.

I scheduled a couple of extra days after the wedding to drive up and see the Grand Canyon with my 11 year old son. I watched the sun set on the canyon and was up early the next morning to see the sun rise over it, quite amazing (it was 20 degrees that morning). Seen 3 bunches of elk while there, a new sight for my son. Of course there is a lot of canyon we didn't see but we enjoyed our brief time.

Driving through the cactus country was good as well, it was new to us. I really liked the ponderosa pine forest south of Flagstaff. I think I could spend some time there and really enjoy it, I've been thinking of it since getting back home. Definitely an area I want to visit again.

I can see myself spending some winter time in the state during retirement. There is a lot of public ground of different types to bird hunt and hike. I would love to horseback through those pines. I need to get to the western part of the state and visit one of my sisters who lives in Fort Mohave, hopefully next winter.

I've been in some of the North West, it's awesome. While I've been in northern Colorado this was my first trip to the south west, it's awesome too.

dav1965
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Posted - 01/11/2018 :  7:48:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I lived in Chandler and Mesa a few years. I like NC better. Not a big fan of rocks. lol

However up north in Arizona is really nice.

Glad you had a good time.
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Mercury
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Posted - 01/11/2018 :  7:57:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Arizona is a horrible place to live! Way too hot, too many illegals, and rattlesnakes EVERYWHERE!

Please don't move here! It is horrible! Pass the word!





Merc (from the horrible city of Tucson!)

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SCOUT5
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Posted - 01/11/2018 :  8:32:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mercury

Arizona is a horrible place to live! Way too hot, too many illegals, and rattlesnakes EVERYWHERE!

Please don't move here! It is horrible! Pass the word!





Merc (from the horrible city of Tucson!)



I'll have to get down to Tucson, just to see such a bad place. Hope you got cold beer,
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Mercury
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  12:42:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nope, no cold beer here! We don't even have electricity! Make sure to tell everyone not to move here!


Merc

quote:
Originally posted by SCOUT5

quote:
Originally posted by Mercury

Arizona is a horrible place to live! Way too hot, too many illegals, and rattlesnakes EVERYWHERE!

Please don't move here! It is horrible! Pass the word!





Merc (from the horrible city of Tucson!)



I'll have to get down to Tucson, just to see such a bad place. Hope you got cold beer,


I dream of a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned.
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Aztngundoc22
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  02:49:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK :

I always liked Az. ! lived out there for 4 years :

Bought some property there a few years back ???

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Brookwood
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  03:01:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been there just once. Got off the plane in Tucson in mid August a few years ago. Leaving the cool airport to the rented car, I thought I had just stepped foot into Hell!

Had to spend a week there and did do a bit of driving around. The outdoor temps were brutal at nearly 116 degrees every day. The landscape seemed dismal with little green mostly the color of reddish clay.

If not for air conditioning, a person would either have to be acclimated slowly or die in such a place!
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Ditch-Runner
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  03:08:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My oldest son has been theu a few times likes it and besides


Well, I'm a standing on a corner
in Winslow, Arizona
and such a fine sight to see
It's a girl, my Lord, in a flatbed
Ford slowin' down to take a look at me


he has a photograph of the place a tourist stop
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mnrivrat48
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USA
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  04:11:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a brother in northern AZ and my oldest brother used to live in Prescott (RIP Bob). I spent some time out there for a few winter months and was going to move out there until my health took a serious dive.

Not a bad place to visit or live depending on your style of living. I particularly liked being called "honey" by the female store check out ladies, and didn't mind open carry in an area that you didn't get a second glance for doing so.

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Alpine
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  05:36:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Quite a few Snowbirds from Idaho spend their winters near Quartsite.

They can ride the ATVs all year round that way. They are working on the Centennial Trail system (about 750 miles of connected trails).






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shilowar
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  06:28:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Spent a vacation as a kid in Arizona. It was quite nice, though I suspect it was during the spring break so not likely that hot yet. We stayed at Rancho De Los Caballeros. That was the first time I ever shot a gun and rode a horse. They took us trap shooting. I guess I was probably 10 years old them.
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Hunter Mag
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USA
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  06:44:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Arizona is nice visually I was there in '67 camping when I was very young, but what about New Mexico? You don't hear much about that and it's all desert also. Carlsbad caverns are awesome. A must see. I was there in '67 also and again in 2015 when I visited my son at Fort Bliss in El Paso.

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He Dog
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Italy
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  10:53:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I live next door, and visit AZ not infrequently. Even went shooting one afternoon with Mercury, who told me how bad, hot, primitive it is and to be sure and not move there. He has been trying to get out for 35 years with no success. My favorite part of AZ is the SE. I am especially fond of the Chiricahua Mountains and often stay there for birding or javelina hunting across the line in NM.

That said I should mention I like rattlesnakes, grow cactus, and come with my own water bottle and batteries.

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He Dog
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Italy
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  10:54:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hunter Mag

Arizona is nice visually I was there in '67 camping when I was very young, but what about New Mexico? You don't hear much about that and it's all desert also. Carlsbad caverns are awesome. A must see. I was there in '67 also and again in 2015 when I visited my son at Fort Bliss in El Paso.




If you get this way again, I will buy the tacos.

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He Dog
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Italy
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  11:02:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Had to spend a week there and did do a bit of driving around. The outdoor temps were brutal at nearly 116 degrees every day.



But it's a dry heat...



True story: I was doing field work south of Tucson one summer when temps were over 100F. Starting home we stopped in Tucson to gas up. Radio and Bank thermometer said 113. I gassed up and went into the station for a soda, and the guy said, "hot enough for you?" I said well it was warm, but I was kind of used to it. He said, "It's not so much the heat as the damn humidity, it's up to 20% today." I said, where I live 90 degrees and 90% is common."

He said, "Only a damn fish could live in a place like that."

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Smitty500mag
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  11:32:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I never understood the fascination with the Grand Canyon? It's the worst case of erosion I've ever seen and if it were here in the south we'd be trying to come up with a way to fill it in.



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Aztngundoc22
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  11:35:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK :

and : When I lived out there : those people had a 'melt-down' if the humidity
got over 10% ???

I also grew up in 90 degree 90 % humm. weather !!!

But : I still like it there : and property @ Sun Valley Area where I bought property is still reasonable ! ( Near Winslow , just off I40 ) !!!


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spasmcreek
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  1:42:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yep ..i know that humidity thing ...lot less at home and when we get to the lake place in eastern kansas it is a lot higher....big difference
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SCOUT5
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  7:53:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Smitty500mag

I never understood the fascination with the Grand Canyon? It's the worst case of erosion I've ever seen and if it were here in the south we'd be trying to come up with a way to fill it in.






Find you a rock, sit there and watch the sun come up and shine it's light on the canyon. While you're doing that think of all the millions of years it took the river to carve out that canyon. Think about just how brief of time you and even mankind have actually been here on earth with our petty worries.

Do that, then get back with us.

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Hunter Mag
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  8:14:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by He Dog

quote:
Originally posted by Hunter Mag

Arizona is nice visually I was there in '67 camping when I was very young, but what about New Mexico? You don't hear much about that and it's all desert also. Carlsbad caverns are awesome. A must see. I was there in '67 also and again in 2015 when I visited my son at Fort Bliss in El Paso.




If you get this way again, I will buy the tacos.

OK you have a deal!! I'd love to visit there again.

Remember this quote... "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson


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He Dog
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Italy
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  8:25:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Smitty500mag

I never understood the fascination with the Grand Canyon? It's the worst case of erosion I've ever seen and if it were here in the south we'd be trying to come up with a way to fill it in.




Yeah, you could get a lot of junk yards and old tire piles in there.

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SCOUT5
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  8:28:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by He Dog

quote:
Originally posted by Smitty500mag

I never understood the fascination with the Grand Canyon? It's the worst case of erosion I've ever seen and if it were here in the south we'd be trying to come up with a way to fill it in.




Yeah, you could get a lot of junk yards and old tire piles in there.



I wonder how many feet you would have to take off the top of Georgia to fill the Grand Canyon.

Edited by - SCOUT5 on 01/12/2018 8:28:58 PM
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Oakie
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  08:23:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My brother in law , goes out there a few times a year. He loves it out there. Showed us a lot of pictures. That state looks beautiful.
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He Dog
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  09:34:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SCOUT5

quote:
Originally posted by He Dog

quote:
Originally posted by Smitty500mag

I never understood the fascination with the Grand Canyon? It's the worst case of erosion I've ever seen and if it were here in the south we'd be trying to come up with a way to fill it in.




Yeah, you could get a lot of junk yards and old tire piles in there.



I wonder how many feet you would have to take off the top of Georgia to fill the Grand Canyon.




Not enough?

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perry shooter
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  10:00:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
while working for IBM years ago I needed to get trained on a rather rare piece of equipment that was put together in TUCSON this was a 2 week training so I could pick when I was going I picked APRIL it ran 3 shifts a day so I picked second shift. there were lots of things to do
somethings that sticks to me today ARE
#1 if you don't water the only color is Brown
#2 mount Lemon is only a hour or so away and you will go from 80 degrees in Tucson to snow on the ground at ski slope at mount LEMON
#3 huge many many acres of airplane scrap/storage both civilian & Military
#4 great aircraft museum again both military as well as civilian



# 5 In Va. I have never figured how some one could get lost you just walk a few miles until you cross running water go down stream until you get to paved road but on the trip to Mount Lemon there is one place you can see a dirt road in one straight line for 75 or more miles if you were on that road everything looks the same in every direction
#6
^ an Aiary about one acre in size with an air lock type door
birds would land on your arm, and animal enclosure with wild animals

#7 place called PINNACLE PEAK this was restaurant that was set up as a small town had country store /Gun Shop store for westernware and one for Cowboy boots and another for coyboy hats price on both boots and hats could go for over $1,000
the restaurant itself only served steak
and only in 4 different size you took a number and they called your number they had about 5or 6 dinning rooms and if you got there and were about one hundred behind the number they just called you would have less than a 10 minute wait I fell in love with the place ate there every other night

#8 biggest let down was the reason I picked the dates to go was
I had for years seen ads for Tuson Gun show and pick that time to go
WORST GUN SHOW I have ever been to many many tables but nothing I would buy and very little I would have taken if it was given to me

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us55840
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  10:15:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Used to have to travel to Arizona for business....Phoenix, Tucson and Yuma.

It was HOT in the winter months and HORRIBLY HOT the rest of the year.


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Aztngundoc22
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USA
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  11:49:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK :

Yes indeed : I really like & almost miss Tucson : and PINNACLE PEAK is a great place !!! Ate there once a week for three years !!!

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Irish 8802
Get off my Lawn

USA
1197 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2018 :  1:04:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I lived in Tucson for 5 years."THE X" still resides there in a Belfry. If anyone spots her,do not look at her eyes. You will be turned to stone.BTDT!
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He Dog
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Italy
45257 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2018 :  1:37:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perry Shooter, the aviary you mentioned was probably at the Arizona Sonora Desert Museum.

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jimdeere
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15725 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2018 :  2:15:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Be sure to pick up some salsa Rojas de chiltepin. Wife’s cousin sends it to me from Tucson. Mmmm!
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allen griggs
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  2:47:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My aunt and uncle used to live in Prescott. My brother and I went out there to visit them in August on our BMW motorcycles.
Middle of a heat wave even for Prescott, high of 117.

Hot, but low humidity I must say.
Very pretty state quite different from what I am used to in the southeast.
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