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discusdad
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  3:21:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
amazing video of this bird landing on a carrier and no hook!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=113&v=uM5AI3YSV3M&ab_channel=

Edited by - discusdad on 01/12/2018 3:39:39 PM

buddyb
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  3:24:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always wondered if that was possible.
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spasmcreek
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  3:29:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow...what a set of brakes....and wonder how close the wing was to the tower
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discusdad
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  3:41:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it had to be close, he never crossed that dotted line..
terrific brakes and thrust reverse ability..
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wow...what a set of brakes....and wonder how close the wing was to the tower

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droptop
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  3:46:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Made it look easy,, no sweat, touch and go would have been no sweat,, so what's the big sweat anyway. The wing tip looked pretty close to the tower but hard to determine.

The video looks to be a test to see how things "work out"

Pilot got the Distinguished Flying Cross for his participation.
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merlinn
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  5:23:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Damn good brakes and 4 engines in max reverse thrust will get the job done.



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droptop
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  5:55:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
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Damn good brakes and 4 engines in max reverse thrust will get the job done.



Never thought of prop planes having reverse thrust but they do,, probably more effective than a jet. Learn something new everyday.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrust_reversal
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SG
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  6:07:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amazing how it can get airborne so quickly without a cat shot!
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spasmcreek
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  6:23:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
plane was probably loaded with a roll of toilet....only one
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Don McManus
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  6:28:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Quite a feat of flying to be sure. Hard to tell how fast the carrier was moving, but one would guess 30+ knots.

Also was fascinated to see the C-130 take off using the angle deck instead of the additional length available at the bow.


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bpost
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  8:45:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by discusdad

amazing video of this bird landing on a carrier and no hook!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=113&v=uM5AI3YSV3M&ab_channel=



Not bad for a bird that first flew 64 years ago!!!

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savage170
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  10:40:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

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ltcdoty
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  11:50:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any idea what year this was?
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discusdad
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  1:06:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
opening scene of the video states this was october/november of 1963
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Any idea what year this was?

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Flying Clay Disk
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  6:20:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Don McManus

Quite a feat of flying to be sure. Hard to tell how fast the carrier was moving, but one would guess 30+ knots.

Also was fascinated to see the C-130 take off using the angle deck instead of the additional length available at the bow.





Plus, probably into a headwind of about 50 knots. Look at the guy on the deck about halfway through, he's leaning into the wind at about 30 degrees just to remain standing.

In any case, that pilot needed a cargo plane...just to carry his nutsack!


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CaptFun
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  7:40:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And managed not to damn near burn the ship up. Thanks John....

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andrewsw16
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  8:03:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by droptop

quote:
Originally posted by merlinn



Damn good brakes and 4 engines in max reverse thrust will get the job done.



Never thought of prop planes having reverse thrust but they do,, probably more effective than a jet. Learn something new everyday.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrust_reversal


Yep. Herky birds can even back up while taxiing quite nicely. It makes parking and maneuvering around the apron much easier that with planes that need a tractor. If it is a deadend taxiway, they can easily do a bootleg turn to get back out.
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wpageabc
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  8:06:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amazing... Nice work by the cap and crew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u99Q7pNAjvg
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navc130
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  8:20:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, the C-130 was made for shortfield take-offs and landings. The Air Force requires pilot proficiency in that. I do not remember why the Navy tried a carrier landing but I do remember they decided that the close wing tip clearance was too close for safety. That aircraft was a B Model probably no cargo and minimum fuel for the test.
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Don McManus
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  8:31:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk

quote:
Originally posted by Don McManus

Quite a feat of flying to be sure. Hard to tell how fast the carrier was moving, but one would guess 30+ knots.

Also was fascinated to see the C-130 take off using the angle deck instead of the additional length available at the bow.





Plus, probably into a headwind of about 50 knots. Look at the guy on the deck about halfway through, he's leaning into the wind at about 30 degrees just to remain standing.

In any case, that pilot needed a cargo plane...just to carry his nutsack!





Curious they used the Forrestal and now the Kitty Hawk in 1963. The Kitty Hawk had a wider flight deck. Do you know if the Forrestal Class had a sturdier flight deck?

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discusdad
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Posted - 01/13/2018 :  10:21:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the aircraft tested a full load weight of 85,000 lbs stop in 267 feet. max load take off distance was 745 feet....the repeated testing showed a c-130 with a cargo weight of 25,000 lbs could fly 2500 miles to land on a carrier safely. all this is on the opening frame of the video.
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Yes, the C-130 was made for shortfield take-offs and landings. The Air Force requires pilot proficiency in that. I do not remember why the Navy tried a carrier landing but I do remember they decided that the close wing tip clearance was too close for safety. That aircraft was a B Model probably no cargo and minimum fuel for the test.

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andrewsw16
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Posted - 01/14/2018 :  12:00:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Way back in the early 80's I was TDY to MAC headquarters where we were shown this same film. At that time, we were told the Navy decided not to use this aircraft for COD (carrier onboard delivery) missions because of the proximity of the starboard wing to the carrier island. It was doable during calm seas and daylight, but that the Navy thought that less than optimal conditions would make the use too risky. Too bad. the Herky is one fine aircraft.
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hedgehopper62
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Posted - 01/14/2018 :  10:26:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Knew it was possiable, caught a hop from canto to siagon 1967 on 130 for R&R in Hi. diverted to Iron triangle and landed there using jado assist and props in reverse pitch.was like free fall with a lot of viberation. Taught C130P at travis when I returned to states. tks.hedge
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