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serf
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  11:54:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Cry baby Boehner who was a rhino and leading congress under Obama finally let's the public see his true intent. Sell marijuana to the public and dumb down The American public with recreational/medical drugs.

serf

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/382614-boehner-joins-board-of-cannabis-company-for-push-for-medical

The move signals a shift for Boehner, who once said that he was "unalterably opposed" to legalizing marijuana.

brier-49
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  12:18:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With all the evidence pointing to it's medicinal uses he is on to a good thing.
You can preach all you want about it being a gateway drug or whatever but I know that is BS pushed by big Pharma.

gun control is not about guns, it is about CONTROL!
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Don McManus
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“I’m convinced de-scheduling the drug is needed so we can do research, help our veterans, and reverse the opioid epidemic ravaging our communities,” Boehner said.

I will never condemn a man for coming to the correct conclusion.

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jerrywh818
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  12:44:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
POT makes Democrats.

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nemesisenforcer
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  12:54:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suddenly like him more.

Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all full up here.

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us55840
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  12:56:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by serf



Cry baby Boehner who was a rhino and leading congress under Obama finally let's the public see his true intent. Sell marijuana to the public and dumb down The American public with recreational/medical drugs.

serf

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/382614-boehner-joins-board-of-cannabis-company-for-push-for-medical

The move signals a shift for Boehner, who once said that he was "unalterably opposed" to legalizing marijuana.





I believe very, very few elected individuals CANNOT be bought.




As for 'medical' weed, if approved it must be dispensed by licensed doctors from a licensed pharmacy same as any other controlled substance with no exceptions....however I don't see that happening with 'pot shops' and so=call doctors next door writing 'scripts' for a few bucks. After all, most hard drug addicts that use heroin, etc. say weed was their gateway drug.


The government has no rights. Only the PEOPLE have rights that empower the government.

This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it.
Abraham Lincoln

Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It is they way it is. The way we cope with it, is what makes the difference.

All comments posted here are my opinion as expressed via the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution.

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serf
Anti Gun Lib

6650 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2018 :  1:07:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brier-49

With all the evidence pointing to it's medicinal uses he is on to a good thing.
You can preach all you want about it being a gateway drug or whatever but I know that is BS pushed by big Pharma.




It dulls your senses it will never be allowed on the job or the miltary. Medical uses can cross over with non-high varieties of the plant.

Recreational high potency varieties can cause delusional acts of life threating actions when driving etc...

Boehner is just wanting to get a piece of the pie on selling drugs to the public and is a NWO stooge for the Illuminati.

Users will be the first to lose gun rights and if you own firearms with pot use then your just making a case for firearms confiscation to spill over to nonusers rights.

serf

http://www.newsweek.com/marijuana-dangerously-potent-pot-making-people-lose-minds-memories-688807


Pot that is high in THC carries a greater risk of psychiatric problems, including psychosis, addiction and memory impairment. One study, for example, published in the British Journal of Psychiatry evaluated cannabis use in 280 people and compared them to a control group of 174 non-cannabis users. The study found that people who experienced their first psychotic episode were more likely to have used a higher THC potency form of the drug.
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mogley98
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  1:07:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fact is (and as supporters of individual rights you would think a Gun forum would be more supportive)
the Government has no more business outlawing personal use of Marijuana anymore than they do pine cones or any other natural item up to and including opium.

Funny how we want regulations on things we personally don't agree with.

Laws against the sale, transport, supplied to minors, Etc. Fine!

But personal use in the home is not an issue our Governments should be involved in.

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serf
Anti Gun Lib

6650 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2018 :  1:28:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mogley98

Fact is (and as supporters of individual rights you would think a Gun forum would be more supportive)
the Government has no more business outlawing personal use of Marijuana anymore than they do pine cones or any other natural item up to and including opium.

Funny how we want regulations on things we personally don't agree with.

Laws against the sale, transport, supplied to minors, Etc. Fine!

But personal use in the home is not an issue our Governments should be involved in.





Unfortunately, like all acts of recreational drugs, it spills out on the streets and causes an out cry to ban it and will just make police forces to become bad babysitters to control this element of lawlessness.

In the home use is just a dodge it just like these idiots that use guns without responsibility. Medical pot use is a granted privilege not a right.

serf

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brier-49
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  1:29:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by brier-49

With all the evidence pointing to it's medicinal uses he is on to a good thing.
You can preach all you want about it being a gateway drug or whatever but I know that is BS pushed by big Pharma.




It dulls your senses it will never be allowed on the job or the miltary. Medical uses can cross over with non-high varieties of the plant.

Recreational high potency varieties can cause delusional acts of life threating actions when driving etc...

Boehner is just wanting to get a piece of the pie on selling drugs to the public and is a NWO stooge for the Illuminati.

Users will be the first to lose gun rights and if you own firearms with pot use then your just making a case for firearms confiscation to spill over to nonusers rights.

serf

http://www.newsweek.com/marijuana-dangerously-potent-pot-making-people-lose-minds-memories-688807


Pot that is high in THC carries a greater risk of psychiatric problems, including psychosis, addiction and memory impairment. One study, for example, published in the British Journal of Psychiatry evaluated cannabis use in 280 people and compared them to a control group of 174 non-cannabis users. The study found that people who experienced their first psychotic episode were more likely to have used a higher THC potency form of the drug.



Everything here sounds just like alcohol & that's legal .

gun control is not about guns, it is about CONTROL!
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mogley98
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  1:35:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The entity that MADE pot might disagree with you :)

quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by mogley98

Fact is (and as supporters of individual rights you would think a Gun forum would be more supportive)
the Government has no more business outlawing personal use of Marijuana anymore than they do pine cones or any other natural item up to and including opium.

Funny how we want regulations on things we personally don't agree with.

Laws against the sale, transport, supplied to minors, Etc. Fine!

But personal use in the home is not an issue our Governments should be involved in.





Unfortunately, like all acts of recreational drugs, it spills out on the streets and causes an out cry to ban it and will just make police forces to become bad babysitters to control this element of lawlessness.

In the home use is just a dodge it just like these idiots that use guns without responsibility. Medical pot use is a granted privilege not a right.

serf



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rambo rebel
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  1:39:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sugar, caffeine, and nicotine are gateway drugs

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Tech141
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  1:42:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It appears there are some folks here with a 1930's "REEFER MADNESS" attitude.

Do the research, you will learn quite a bit.

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dakotashooter2
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  1:45:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pot makes the sheep controlable.

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Mr. Perfect
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  1:51:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alcohol is the only drug I need. And coffee. And often both.

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Some will die in hot pursuit while sifting through my ashes
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wpageabc
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  1:59:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At least he stopped crying...

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Don McManus
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USA
25503 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2018 :  1:59:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by brier-49

With all the evidence pointing to it's medicinal uses he is on to a good thing.
You can preach all you want about it being a gateway drug or whatever but I know that is BS pushed by big Pharma.




It dulls your senses it will never be allowed on the job or the miltary. Medical uses can cross over with non-high varieties of the plant.

Recreational high potency varieties can cause delusional acts of life threating actions when driving etc...

Boehner is just wanting to get a piece of the pie on selling drugs to the public and is a NWO stooge for the Illuminati.

Users will be the first to lose gun rights and if you own firearms with pot use then your just making a case for firearms confiscation to spill over to nonusers rights.

serf

http://www.newsweek.com/marijuana-dangerously-potent-pot-making-people-lose-minds-memories-688807


Pot that is high in THC carries a greater risk of psychiatric problems, including psychosis, addiction and memory impairment. One study, for example, published in the British Journal of Psychiatry evaluated cannabis use in 280 people and compared them to a control group of 174 non-cannabis users. The study found that people who experienced their first psychotic episode were more likely to have used a higher THC potency form of the drug.




No doubt from their vaunted 'Confirm the Obvious' division.

Virtually every study that has been done has shown a marked decrease in opiod overdoses and deaths where medical marijuana has been legalized. Even recreational legalization is showing the same trend, though the data set is more limited.

You modern day Molly Hatchets not only ignore the basic premise of individual liberty, but also ignore the cost, crime, and deaths associated with the fact that pot is illegal.

'Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.'
Brad Steele.


'The Constitution that was actually enacted and formally amended creates islands of government powers in a sea of liberty. The judicially redacted constitution creates islands of liberty rights in a sea of governmental powers.'
Randy E. Barnett


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spasmcreek
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well for god's sake lets do all we can for the hard drug users...after all they are NOT personably responsible according to govt ...what's next, free overnight shipping( ahhh the post office could get out of the red then)
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serf
Anti Gun Lib

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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  2:46:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tech141

It appears there are some folks here with a 1930's "REEFER MADNESS" attitude.

Do the research, you will learn quite a bit.



Nope, the concentration of new hybrid of pot is deadly on the roads,in the military and at work or owning firearms. It cannot be denied. Pot smokers are going to be the first to lose their right to own firearms.

serf



https://www.livescience.com/24558-marijuana-effects.html




In some cases, reported side effects of THC include elation, anxiety, tachycardia, short-term memory recall issues, sedation, relaxation, pain-relief and many more," said A.J. Fabrizio, a marijuana chemistry expert at Terra Tech Corp, a California agricultural company focused on local farming and medical cannabis.

Other effects, according to the NIH, include:

Feelings of panic and fear (paranoia)
Hallucinations
Trouble concentrating
Decreased ability to perform tasks that require coordination
Decreased interest in completing tasks

When coming down from the high, users may feel depressed or extremely tired. While marijuana use produces a mellow experience (users are sometimes referred to as "stoners") for some, it can heighten agitation, anxiety, insomnia and irritability, according to the NIH.
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Don McManus
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  3:07:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by Tech141

It appears there are some folks here with a 1930's "REEFER MADNESS" attitude.

Do the research, you will learn quite a bit.



Nope, the concentration of new hybrid of pot is deadly on the roads,in the military and at work or owning firearms. It cannot be denied. Pot smokers are going to be the first to lose their right to own firearms.

serf



https://www.livescience.com/24558-marijuana-effects.html




In some cases, reported side effects of THC include elation, anxiety, tachycardia, short-term memory recall issues, sedation, relaxation, pain-relief and many more," said A.J. Fabrizio, a marijuana chemistry expert at Terra Tech Corp, a California agricultural company focused on local farming and medical cannabis.

Other effects, according to the NIH, include:

Feelings of panic and fear (paranoia)
Hallucinations
Trouble concentrating
Decreased ability to perform tasks that require coordination
Decreased interest in completing tasks

When coming down from the high, users may feel depressed or extremely tired. While marijuana use produces a mellow experience (users are sometimes referred to as "stoners") for some, it can heighten agitation, anxiety, insomnia and irritability, according to the NIH.



As an employer in a state where pot is legal, I treat people who smoke pot in the same manner I treat those who drink. If you show up drunk or high, you go home. You make a habit of it, you don't come back.

The concentration of THC today is akin to drinking shots rather than drinking beer. It is up to the individual to manage their intake. There will be many who do not mange it responsibly, and they, like their counterparts who drink irresponsibly, will be a problem. The overwhelming majority, however, will and do use it responsibly, and they are not and will not become a problem.

Fear of pot is as irrational today as it was in the 30s. In the 30s, however, there was not the documented benefits of it, nor was there the incredible expense involved with making it illegal.

You're harshing my mellow, dude. Why don't you just chill and let ii be?

'Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.'
Brad Steele.


'The Constitution that was actually enacted and formally amended creates islands of government powers in a sea of liberty. The judicially redacted constitution creates islands of liberty rights in a sea of governmental powers.'
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mlincoln
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  3:13:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
serf, you do realize that you're lecturing the rest of us about psychotic, delusional thinking and behavior, and every two months you post on this board about how the US government is going to totally melt down and society will collapse and cannibalism will reign because the government put up a new weather satellite or is pondering getting rid of the penny or because the price of silver dipped.

That's you, serf, nobody else, every two months telling us how everything is going to go to Hades TOMORROW because the banana crop failed in Honduras and jungle warfare will spread up through Mexico and how the Post Office is going to take on the Marine Corps.

And now you're lecturing us about delusional, psychotic behavior and thinking.
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375H&H
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  3:18:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
As an employer in a state where pot is legal, I treat people who smoke pot in the same manner I treat those who drink. If you show up drunk or high, you go home. You make a habit of it, you don't come back.

The concentration of THC today is akin to drinking shots rather than drinking beer. It is up to the individual to manage their intake. There will be many who do not mange it responsibly, and they, like their counterparts who drink irresponsibly, will be a problem. The overwhelming majority, however, will and do use it responsibly, and they are not and will not become a problem.

Fear of pot is as irrational today as it was in the 30s. In the 30s, however, there was not the documented benefits of it, nor was there the incredible expense involved with making it illegal.

You're harshing my mellow, dude. Why don't you just chill and let ii be?



Very well stated !!!





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Smitty500mag
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  3:18:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by serf

It dulls your senses it will never be allowed on the job or the miltary. Medical uses can cross over with non-high varieties of the plant.

Recreational high potency varieties can cause delusional acts of life threating actions when driving etc...




Sounds exactly like booze to me.

If anything is a gateway drug it's alcohol. I'd be willing to bet that 99.999 percent of all drug users used alcohol first.





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bpost
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Azerbaijan
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  4:12:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think it is of anybody's concern if you smoke a weed as long as you are not exposing children to it.

I am a practicing Curmudgeon, someone that hates hypocrisy and pretense and has the temerity to say so.



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serf
Anti Gun Lib

6650 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2018 :  4:49:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mlincoln

serf, you do realize that you're lecturing the rest of us about psychotic, delusional thinking and behavior, and every two months you post on this board about how the US government is going to totally melt down and society will collapse and cannibalism will reign because the government put up a new weather satellite or is pondering getting rid of the penny or because the price of silver dipped.

That's you, serf, nobody else, every two months telling us how everything is going to go to Hades TOMORROW because thebanana crop failed in Honduras and jungle warfare will spread up through Mexico and how the Post Office is going to take on the Marine Corps.


And now you're lecturing us about delusional, psychotic behavior and thinking.



Just keep your eye on Damascus Syria ,if I'm wrong well then amen if not we have hell to pay.And Yes Hybrid strains of Marijana will make you delusional believe it or not.

serf



Marijuana overactivates parts of the brain that contain the highest number of these receptors. This causes the "high" that people feel. Other effects include:

altered senses (for example, seeing brighter colors)
altered sense of time
changes in mood
impaired body movement
difficulty with thinking and problem-solving
impaired memory
hallucinations (when taken in high doses)
delusions (when taken in high doses)
psychosis (when taken in high doses

The amount of THC in marijuana has been increasing steadily over the past few decades.7 For a person who's new to marijuana use, this may mean exposure to higher THC levels with a greater chance of a harmful reaction. Higher THC levels may explain the rise in emergency room visits involving marijuana use.

The popularity of edibles also increases the chance of harmful reactions. Edibles take longer to digest and produce a high. Therefore, people may consume more to feel the effects faster, leading to dangerous results.

Higher THC levels may also mean a greater risk for addiction if people are regularly exposing themselves to high doses.[
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Tech141
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USA
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Posted - 04/12/2018 :  06:35:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Serf,

You wouldn't happen to be related to Harry Anslinger would ya?


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Arby
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I understand the medicinal value of Marijuana but can't understand the need for someone to get "high" on MJ or booze. I know folks who will drink for the sole purpose of getting Shxtfaced. Answers to personal problems won't be found at the bottom of a bottle...so why drink to excess?

On occasion, I am a social drinker but never to excess or if I am driving. I have used medicinal MJ to kill nausea following chemo therapy...never got high , just got a case to the munchies...don't understand need to get high.

"Optimism is going after Moby Dick in a rowboat; chutzpah is taking the tartar sauce with you! ""
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us55840
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USA
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Posted - 04/12/2018 :  2:17:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My opinion but people get shizfaced or use MJ, heroin, meth, cocaine, etc. to avoid or escape from reality.

Really a exercise in futility since once the effects subside, they feel like crap, wasted their money and their former problems are still there ... or possibly additional real problems.

That's life, get a grip and face it how it is.

The government has no rights. Only the PEOPLE have rights that empower the government.

This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it.
Abraham Lincoln

Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It is they way it is. The way we cope with it, is what makes the difference.

All comments posted here are my opinion as expressed via the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution.

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mjrfd99
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Posted - 04/13/2018 :  06:08:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How many see most of the "medical Mj" business is being awarded to politicrap insiders? The total legal states too. Then who over sees the biz?
More government tit feeders.

Seeds, dirt, water, and sunshine. Grow your own - under cut the government aproved weed. Starve the politicraps of their crack AKA tax money.
No worse than alcohol.
Google what that known poison sprends on bribing AKA "contributing" to politicraps.

Wonder why the alcohol industry hasen't been sued like the tobacco companies? It causes as much or more death and destruction than weed any day of the week.

PS-- CDL or CWP or just a firearm owner - when you sign for legal weed?? Kiss those good bye

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serf
Anti Gun Lib

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Posted - 04/13/2018 :  09:58:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mjrfd99

How many see most of the "medical Mj" business is being awarded to politicrap insiders? The total legal states too. Then who over sees the biz?
More government tit feeders.

Seeds, dirt, water, and sunshine. Grow your own - under cut the government aproved weed. Starve the politicraps of their crack AKA tax money.
No worse than alcohol.
Google what that known poison sprends on bribing AKA "contributing" to politicraps.

Wonder why the alcohol industry hasen't been sued like the tobacco companies? It causes as much or more death and destruction than weed any day of the week.

PS-- CDL or CWP or just a firearm owner - when you sign for legal weed?? Kiss those good bye



One blood test or urine test will weed you out but if you volunteer for pseudo-medical marijuana use then sure you have violated the Federal law on gun ownership and will be outed and stripped of those rights.

New hybrids of this plant are too strong in THC and most supporters here are deaf and blind on this point.

What happens when a blind man talks to a deaf man?

serf


Edited by - serf on 04/13/2018 09:59:04 AM
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Tech141
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USA
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Posted - 04/13/2018 :  10:36:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And some folks are seriously invested in 1930's Prohibition rhetoric.


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us55840
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USA
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Posted - 04/13/2018 :  11:55:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I wonder how many billions are lost from job non-productivity (robbing the employer) and rehabilitation services of illegal drug users not to mention the loss of lives and destruction of families.


The government has no rights. Only the PEOPLE have rights that empower the government.

This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it.
Abraham Lincoln

Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It is they way it is. The way we cope with it, is what makes the difference.

All comments posted here are my opinion as expressed via the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution.

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serf
Anti Gun Lib

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Posted - 04/13/2018 :  3:13:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tech141

And some folks are seriously invested in 1930's Prohibition rhetoric.





They did not have high-grade weed to sell in the 1930's! Are you reading my comments with discernment? I doubt it!

serf

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/03/was-marijuana-really-less-potent-in-the-1960s/387010/

I think the mega-potent strains may soon represent the norm, if not already—the market selects for potency.But with customers clamoring for the strong stuff, there's also a question of whether manufacturers are labeling accurately. A Denver Post investigation last year found wide discrepancies between labeling and THC content—in many cases, products advertised a much higher percentage of THC than an edible product actually contained.
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Tech141
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Posted - 04/17/2018 :  10:05:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by Tech141

And some folks are seriously invested in 1930's Prohibition rhetoric.





They did not have high-grade weed to sell in the 1930's! Are you reading my comments with discernment? I doubt it!

serf

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/03/was-marijuana-really-less-potent-in-the-1960s/387010/

I think the mega-potent strains may soon represent the norm, if not already—the market selects for potency.But with customers clamoring for the strong stuff, there's also a question of whether manufacturers are labeling accurately. A Denver Post investigation last year found wide discrepancies between labeling and THC content—in many cases, products advertised a much higher percentage of THC than an edible product actually contained.




And? What's your point?

Stronger weed? Smoke less for same result. There - Easy.

Are you actually clueless or are you being intentionally obstinate?

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Posted - 04/17/2018 :  11:18:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Tech141

quote:
Originally posted by serf

quote:
Originally posted by Tech141

And some folks are seriously invested in 1930's Prohibition rhetoric.





They did not have high-grade weed to sell in the 1930's! Are you reading my comments with discernment? I doubt it!

serf

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/03/was-marijuana-really-less-potent-in-the-1960s/387010/

I think the mega-potent strains may soon represent the norm, if not already—the market selects for potency.But with customers clamoring for the strong stuff, there's also a question of whether manufacturers are labeling accurately. A Denver Post investigation last year found wide discrepancies between labeling and THC content—in many cases, products advertised a much higher percentage of THC than an edible product actually contained.




And? What's your point?

Stronger weed? Smoke less for same result. There - Easy.

Are you actually clueless or are you being intentionally obstinate?



No I am not but you seem to underestimate the average person is not going to smoke less to achieve a high. Plus the effects of hybrids of THC can then overwhelm the user and cause harm to society at large.

You do not build a resistance to THC to achieve the same high thus it can cause unknow effects.

Hopefully, you pot heads could drive an autonomous electric auto soon!

serf

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/pot-getting-potent

“I see people walk in all the time saying, ‘Give me the strongest thing you have,’” says Tim Cullen, co-owner of Evergreen Apothecary, which runs two retail marijuana stores in Colorado. “It’s bizarre … Can you imagine being in a liquor store and having someone say, ‘Just give me your strongest stuff?’ But for now, that’s what a lot of people seem to want.”

And marijuana growers have clearly been working to meet the demand. Robert MacCoun, a behavioral scientist at U.C. Berkeley who has studied drug policy here and abroad, calls it an “arms race,” in which growers strive to create the highest-octane varieties, and then bestow awards on themselves at the annual Cannabis Cup competition.

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Posted - 04/17/2018 :  11:57:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Serf, It seems we will continue to be at odds with this, and any further interaction will only tend to exacerbate negative feelings, so I will retire from this discussion.

You have your 1930's prohibitionist attitude, which is solidly based in racism (research Harry Anslinger..... ).

I do not.

Have an Outstanding Day!

Mike


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quote:
Originally posted by Tech141

Serf, It seems we will continue to be at odds with this, and any further interaction will only tend to exacerbate negative feelings, so I will retire from this discussion.

You have your 1930's prohibitionist attitude, which is solidly based in racism (research Harry Anslinger..... ).

I do not.

Have an Outstanding Day!

Mike





Yeah, the government needs to pacify everybody as they walk down the golden road to see the wizard. The Great Wizard with smoke and fire! The Charlatan!

serf


Edited by - serf on 04/18/2018 8:18:06 PM
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Have a good one, Serf!

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serf, you do realize that you're lecturing the rest of us about psychotic, delusional thinking and behavior, and every two months you post on this board about how the US government is going to totally melt down and society will collapse and cannibalism will reign because the government put up a new weather satellite or is pondering getting rid of the penny or because the price of silver dipped.

That's you, serf, nobody else, every two months telling us how everything is going to go to Hades TOMORROW because the banana crop failed in Honduras and jungle warfare will spread up through Mexico and how the Post Office is going to take on the Marine Corps.

And now you're lecturing us about delusional, psychotic behavior and thinking.



Well said, mlincoln
Sounds like the sky is falling, paranoia, serf. Who do you work for the deeeep state.
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Originally posted by Missouri Mule K30

quote:
Originally posted by mlincoln

serf, you do realize that you're lecturing the rest of us about psychotic, delusional thinking and behavior, and every two months you post on this board about how the US government is going to totally melt down and society will collapse and cannibalism will reign because the government put up a new weather satellite or is pondering getting rid of the penny or because the price of silver dipped.

That's you, serf, nobody else, every two months telling us how everything is going to go to Hades TOMORROW because the banana crop failed in Honduras and jungle warfare will spread up through Mexico and how the Post Office is going to take on the Marine Corps.

And now you're lecturing us about delusional, psychotic behavior and thinking.



Well said, mlincoln
Sounds like the sky is falling, paranoia, serf. Who do you work for the deeeep state.



Nope the sky isn't falling but legalising another recreational drug crutch under the guise of medication is a farce. Always will be.

The Hybrid form of marijuana now produced is too powerful to give out like candy to the public.

serf

https://www.medicaldaily.com/what-skunk-cannabis-highly-potent-marijuana-could-damage-white-matter-brain-363276

“Skunk-like” cannabis refers to high potency marijuana that contains a larger amount of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) compared to around a decade ago. In fact, “skunk-like” marijuana products high in THC are thought to be the most common form of cannabis in the United Kingdom.

“We found that frequent use of high potency cannabis significantly affects the structure of white matter fibers in the brain, whether you have psychosis or not,” said Dr. Paola Dazzan, reader in neurobiology of psychosis from the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience (IoPPN) at King's College London, in a statement. “This reflects a sliding scale where the more cannabis you smoke and the higher the potency, the worse the damage will be. There is an urgent need to educate health professionals, the public and policymakers about the risks involved with cannabis use.”
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Posted - 04/22/2018 :  01:52:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
serf you do not have a clue.
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Posted - 04/22/2018 :  09:45:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Missouri Mule K30

serf you do not have a clue.



Yeah I see the position you're coming from.No data and no information to refute how harmful these hybrid high potency strains are for Marijuana Users like yourself.

And I have no clue? Toke on baby and have a blast with that brain of yours!

serf

https://www.allbud.com/marijuana-strains/indica-dominant-hybrid/brains-damage

This dank bud boasts an insanely high average THC level between 20-23% and offers hard-hitting effects that make the user act like they actually have brain damage. These potent effects kick in after one or two hits of this bud, leaving you with insanely droopy red eyes and a super heavy couch-lock that leaves you immovable, introspective, and sedated. This effect can last for hours and can leave you nonresponsive even when someone is directly talking to you, and users are often found in a blissful state of undisturbed sleep. Due to these heavy indica effects, Brain’s Damage is a perfect strain for treating patients suffering from insomnia, night terrors, chronic pain, and migraines. Brain’s Damage buds have medium-sized insanely dense dark olive green nugs with dark purple undertones and a spattering of thin twisty dark amber hairs. These nugs are dusted with almost translucent trichomes and are absolutely dripping with sweet syrupy resin. This bud has an intoxicating aroma of freshly picked tropical fruit and a taste of sweet earthy fruit with a hint of sharp pine...

Edited by - serf on 04/22/2018 11:01:55 AM
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Posted - 04/23/2018 :  06:31:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Tech141

And some folks are seriously invested in 1930's Prohibition rhetoric.




So true. Then restate what someone said again.Ie; Don't use if you are CDL or CWP or any other profession that will test you.
Do 30 yrs in EMS and the truth will be glaring obvious.
88k dead from alcohol per year.
https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm
Still tryng to find one from weed
https://www.promises.com/resources/overdose/many-people-died-weed/

Ask any 1st responder "rather deal with pot heads or drunks?"
I know drunks are the worst- EXTREMELY worse.

Edited by - mjrfd99 on 04/23/2018 06:37:16 AM
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Posted - 04/23/2018 :  12:27:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
More people die every year from Vending Machines falling on them (avg 4/yr) than from Marijuana Use (0 per year, since the dawn of medical documentation).

Methinks some folks time would be better spent trying to ban vending machines.

ITS FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!

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