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bigboy12
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 Posted - 07/23/2012 : 8:08:18 PM
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| Just watched "Talking Points" segment of The Factor. O'Reilly was spot on when he called Bill Moyers on the floor about gun control, BUT he lost me when he referred to an AK-47 as a heavy weapon. The talking heads just don't get it, do they? |
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Rack Ops
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Posted - 07/23/2012 : 8:11:54 PM
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| He lost me when he said someone can buy a bazooka with no background check |
None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but licence.
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drygulchdan
Senior Member
USA
1031 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2012 : 8:12:39 PM
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And according to Bill O'Reilly, I can go buy a real live bazooka or a machine gun and the feds would not know about. I would like to shop where O'Reilly shops . |
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bigboy12
Senior Member
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Posted - 07/23/2012 : 8:13:51 PM
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Originally posted by drygulchdan
And according to Bill O'Reilly, I can go buy a real live bazooka or a machine gun and the feds would not know about. I would like to shop where O'Reilly shops.
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HooverTactical
Member
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Posted - 07/23/2012 : 8:15:35 PM
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Originally posted by Rack Ops
He lost me when he said someone can buy a bazooka with no background check
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FrancF
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Posted - 07/23/2012 : 8:17:09 PM
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I was pulling my hair out today just listening to the talk shows
"He had giant Clips"-
"He had 4,000 pellets in his automatic rifle"-
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Captplaid
Advanced Member
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17115 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2012 : 8:18:17 PM
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| Gun show loophole. . . |
Obama believes he can tax your breathing.
Liberty isn't free. It is paid in blood. -Thomas Jefferson
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Rack Ops
Advanced Member
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16802 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2012 : 8:19:54 PM
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Originally posted by HooverTactical
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Originally posted by Rack Ops
He lost me when he said someone can buy a bazooka with no background check
what
did he really say that
Yup |
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bigboy12
Senior Member
2149 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2012 : 8:20:39 PM
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Originally posted by Captplaid
Gun show loophole. . .
Judging from the perpetrators of the last several mass shootings, I think we have a "nut" house loophole. |
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wpage
Advanced Member
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Posted - 07/23/2012 : 8:21:00 PM
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RPG's and Bazooka's are not in the 2nd amendment...
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bpost
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Posted - 07/23/2012 : 8:22:28 PM
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| Bill O'Reiley is just an over the top Elite know it all blow hard azzhat. |
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Spider7115
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Posted - 07/23/2012 : 8:28:56 PM
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Originally posted by HooverTactical
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Originally posted by Rack Ops
He lost me when he said someone can buy a bazooka with no background check
what
did he really say that
I couldn't believe he would make such a stupid and ignorant comment. |
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CS8161
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rhythm_guy
Senior Member
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Posted - 07/23/2012 : 9:46:46 PM
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| I think we need more regulations. Like if you know NOTHING about a subject you dont get to spout off about it in front of millions of folks. |
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grumpygy
Advanced Member
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Posted - 07/23/2012 : 9:50:18 PM
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| I really need to find this street corner where I can buy these cheap weapons and nobody will find out about them |
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swopjan
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Posted - 07/24/2012 : 06:27:30 AM
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I really need to find this street corner where I can buy these cheap weapons and nobody will find out about them
You could ask the Mexican president, he knows all about our gun laws  |
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Charles Johnson
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Posted - 07/24/2012 : 07:27:49 AM
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Bill O'Reiley is just an over the top Elite know it all blow hard azzhat.
Well!!! He's definitely better than some of the other blow-hard azzhats.
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badlandsbutch
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 07/24/2012 : 08:01:14 AM
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He was totally on about Moyers then lost it completely when he said you can buy machine guns, bazookas and heavy weapons like the AK47.
Pretty ignorant. |
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rambo rebel
Senior Member
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Posted - 07/24/2012 : 1:53:59 PM
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I emailed him an hour ago before reading this. bet he got a ton of em. you guys should do the same.
I explained to him that a LEGAL machine gun has never been used (since the 30's when they were legal over the counter - good ole days) to commit a crime in which someone was injured by that MG.
I went on to say that the feds know where every single legal MG is at ANY given moment and that in order to own one you needed to fill out more paperwork than it takes to bring a baby home from the hospital AND that by your signature on the paperwork the feds could show up anytime with notice I'm told and demand you produce the paperwork and the weapon for inspection.
told him his research dept. needed a gun guy on it because I've seen him make several gun related mistakes in the recent past.
doubt I'll hear from him or his peeps but it wouldn't hurt to pile on so send him an email. |
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River Rat
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Posted - 07/24/2012 : 2:08:29 PM
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Our problem in America today is that we have a smaller percentage of gun owners than we used to. I believe that is changing: note the huge spike in purchases in Colorado (and elsewhere) in the past week.
The focus now needs to be on training and safety. Many families lost the generation-to-generation familiarity with firearms, and now that needs to return.
Perhaps there are fewer hunters, but a greater concern for personal defense -- even large-scale such as SHTF. Either way, we get more Americans who are familiar with gun handling. They will discover that shooting is fun, and they will be able to correct errors from those who should know better.
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Mr. Perfect
Advanced Member
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Posted - 07/24/2012 : 3:43:28 PM
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wonder why they never talk about the face to face loophole? |
"When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace." -Jesus
"Also he [David] bade them teach the children of Judah [the use of] the bow" -Samuel
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
Some will die in hot pursuit and fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit while sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain
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Spider7115
Moderator
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22946 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2012 : 4:02:22 PM
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I e-mailed him, too:
To: oreilly@foxnews.com
Subject: A BAZOOKA? No "FACT" in "The Factor"
Message:
Bill -
Who do you get your information from? CNN? A private citizen can NOT buy a bazooka and I can't believe you said that! Additionally, machine guns are banned in most states but those that allow them must be registered and a transfer tax of $200 paid to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives - THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!
Your listeners need to believe you and you are guilty of reporting false information.
Wise up, Bill, and get your facts straight!
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rambo rebel
Senior Member
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Posted - 07/24/2012 : 4:46:30 PM
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| well, technicly a private citizen with a class 3 destructive device licience can own a bazooka. |
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drygulchdan
Senior Member
USA
1031 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2012 : 8:34:55 PM
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| And again tonight, he reeks of ignorance. |
Never trust a government that doesnt trust its own citizens with guns --Thomas Jefferson
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Spider7115
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Posted - 07/24/2012 : 8:40:21 PM
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Originally posted by drygulchdan
And again tonight, he reeks of ignorance.
He's losing it. He actually wants the FBI to assign an agent to investigate anyone who buys an assault rifle and thinks all Ak-47's are full auto! |
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bigoutside
Advanced Member
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8607 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2012 : 8:42:42 PM
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Originally posted by bpost
Bill O'Reiley is just an over the top Elite know it all blow hard azzhat.
Well, I'm pretty sure where the "high road" award ISN'T going tonight! |
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eastbank
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Posted - 07/24/2012 : 8:43:37 PM
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| he,s so full of it, its comming out of his mouth. he should wipe his mouth.what a misinformed loud mouth. he does the second admendment no good. eastbank. |
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FreudianSlippers
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USA
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Posted - 07/25/2012 : 6:38:09 PM
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Last night, Bill O'Reilly repeated the ridiculous claims he was making about firearms and gun law in support of his position that Congress should "pass a new law that requires the sale of 'heavy weapons' to be reported to the FBI." His guest, Representative Jason Chaffetz, tried to correct him, but as usual, O'Reilly simply talked over him.
Here is the 5-minute video from last night's show: http://www.billoreilly.com/video?chartID=610&vid=539487484223522053
The "debate" begins 30 seconds into the video. Here are some of the highlights:
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I said, "heavy weapons": mortars, howitzers, machine guns. In this age of terrorism, if you do a flight school, the FBI is alerted, but you can buy a machine gun, and the FBI doesn't know.
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Have you ever been to a gun show? Do you know that you can buy any weapon you want there, and there's no reporting any way. You can walk right out.
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You can buy an AK-47 in this country, and no federal agency will know you buy it, and as the guy in Colorado proved, you can buy a mass amount of ammunition on the 'Net, and nobody's reporting it.
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Say this guy who bought 60,000 rounds in Colorado -- which he did -- and the FBI in Denver got wind of that, they would've been watching him.
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There aren't any federal laws on the books to report that. There are seven states that require, if you buy an AK, and 43 that don't.
Dustin Ellermann, the winner of the third season of History Channel's Top Shot, wrote an excellent rebuttal: http://fishgame.com/deblog.php?p=539 |
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Mr. Perfect
Advanced Member
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Posted - 07/25/2012 : 7:02:43 PM
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| Haven't watched Bill-don't-let-the-facts-get-in-my-way O'Reilly for a long time. Guess not much has changed. |
"When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace." -Jesus
"Also he [David] bade them teach the children of Judah [the use of] the bow" -Samuel
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
Some will die in hot pursuit and fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit while sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain
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papernicker
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 07/25/2012 : 7:28:50 PM
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| He can't be this stupid, it must be an act. He is confused by 60,000 and 6,000 hahaha |
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CapnMidnight
Advanced Member
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Posted - 07/26/2012 : 02:05:02 AM
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I emailed him also, corected his 60,000 number and all.
I was tempted to question is parentage.
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kimi
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Posted - 07/26/2012 : 02:18:19 AM
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Originally posted by CapnMidnight
I emailed him also, corected his 60,000 number and all.
I was tempted to question is parentage.
W.D.
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gary wray
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Posted - 07/26/2012 : 09:17:56 AM
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| I actually like the show but Bill knows nothing about guns but pretends that he does. He does not know the diff between a fully auto weapon, a semiauto, or a RPG and such. He shouts, finger points, yells, but knows nothing. He really PO'ed me last night when he started shouting at the guy he was "debating" (who was also lousy...I think on purpose to make Bill look good) about "heavy weapons" and such...and how we should not be able to purchase an AK (which he thinks all weapons called AK are fullyauto) and was completely confused on how many rounds the CO shooter had ("60,000") when all reports indicate he had 6,000 rds of .223 so Bill got lost on another digit or so. Just on and on. Being a historian myself, I would never buy his fakehistory book on Lincoln's ass (that most likely someone else "ghostwrote" for him) now as I guess hethinks the Prez was shot with a "heavy weapon" rather than a derringer |
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rhythm_guy
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Posted - 07/26/2012 : 7:25:42 PM
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I've gotten pretty put out with him over this thing. For someone with as many viewers as he has to spout off such gibberish, with total disregard for, or ignorance of the facts is just nonsense. He doesn't know the difference in auto/semi, AK/AR, 6/60, etc. And just what the heck is a "heavy weapon?" My pistol with 17 rounds in the mag is heavier than one with 10, does that make me bad?
According to him everybody that amasses such a "huge stockpile of weapons" should be on some watch list. That apparently includes me, and I'm very new to this game. I don't own nearly as much as most of you, but I have what the CO guy had - a semi-auto rifle (though not an AR), a shotgun and 2 handguns, with some ammo for each (haven't counted lately, but a few thousand rounds total). The government couldn't possibly afford to watch everybody that owns as much as my "arsenal." |
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grumpygy
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Posted - 07/26/2012 : 7:27:16 PM
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Originally posted by Spider7115
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Originally posted by drygulchdan
And again tonight, he reeks of ignorance.
He's losing it. He actually wants the FBI to assign an agent to investigate anyone who buys an assault rifle and thinks all Ak-47's are full auto!
Mine must be broken then. |
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jimdeere
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Posted - 07/26/2012 : 7:38:17 PM
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"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consientious stupidity."
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9 on the floor
Senior Member
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Posted - 07/26/2012 : 7:49:44 PM
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O'Reily made an ass of himself.
I turned him off and went out to clean the garage in disgust. |
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CS8161
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Posted - 07/26/2012 : 9:25:31 PM
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| O'Reilly continues to show his elitist, arrogant ignorance. he was "debating" Lou Dobbs this evening and would not allow Lou to make a point. Again he focuses on "heavy weapons" and that anyone who buys an AK should be investigated. He agrees with Eric Holder that anyone who buys more than one "assault" rifle at a time in the border states, must have their information forwarded to ATF. I just can't watch him any longer, he has become a pompous ass. He is "just looking out for the folks" because I guess we are not smart enough to figure things out for ourselves. I bet he sees a decline in his ratings over the next few years. |
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jjmitchell60
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Posted - 07/26/2012 : 11:51:22 PM
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AND he is to be the NRA's key note speaker at one of their national events this year! So if you want to e-mail the NRA and ask WHY such a mis-informed anti gun idiot such as O'Reilly is their key note speaker, do so. I did and was told by the NRA to "contact the show itself" which I had already done. So to use O'Reilly's own name calling, he is a pin head and the NRA is an even bigger pin head for having him as a key note speaker.
Anyone that knows ANYTHING at all about O'Reilly knows he is from NY and is as anti 2nd admendment a person that there is or ever was. he and Bloomberg are big buddies in tat aspect. |
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hobo9650
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Posted - 07/26/2012 : 11:57:56 PM
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No doubt O'Reilly is a nut case and plays to the cameras for support using false statements and intentionally slanted information. Is he really that stupid and depending upon his staff to "feed" information for his "misinformation" OR is he a complete radical nut case, like Obama, with a specifc purpose in mind?
Ever notice that controversy and ambush techniques must be in every issue in his carefully organized schedule.
Eiher way, some people only believe what they read and hear. Media in some areas, especially his, give a new meaning to the definition of morales, honor and integrity.
Sometimes wonder how his "followers" could agree with this radical and stay sane themselves. Is this how sects are formed or held together?
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Laredo Lefty
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Posted - 07/27/2012 : 12:25:58 AM
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That 2 gun AK & AR reporting requirement in the border states was a direct result of that dip sh** Holder's Fast & Furious program.
Yes, O'reilly needs to do some homework. ARs and AKs are not heavy weapons. Mortars, tanks and artillery are. He made the claim that people can buy machineguns and the govt doesn't know about it, bull crap. We all know they are tightly controlled by the ATF. |
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Beeramid
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Posted - 07/27/2012 : 12:32:19 AM
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Originally posted by rhythm_guy
I've gotten pretty put out with him over this thing. For someone with as many viewers as he has to spout off such gibberish, with total disregard for, or ignorance of the facts is just nonsense. He doesn't know the difference in auto/semi, AK/AR, 6/60, etc. And just what the heck is a "heavy weapon?" My pistol with 17 rounds in the mag is heavier than one with 10, does that make me bad?
According to him everybody that amasses such a "huge stockpile of weapons" should be on some watch list. That apparently includes me, and I'm very new to this game. I don't own nearly as much as most of you, but I have what the CO guy had - a semi-auto rifle (though not an AR), a shotgun and 2 handguns, with some ammo for each (haven't counted lately, but a few thousand rounds total). The government couldn't possibly afford to watch everybody that owns as much as my "arsenal."
Bout time, he's just a loud mouth herp derp who doesn't know what he's talking about. I think he would call someone like himself a pinhead. |
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kimi
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Posted - 07/27/2012 : 01:38:35 AM
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Originally posted by CS8161
O'Reilly continues to show his elitist, arrogant ignorance. he was "debating" Lou Dobbs this evening and would not allow Lou to make a point. Again he focuses on "heavy weapons" and that anyone who buys an AK should be investigated. He agrees with Eric Holder that anyone who buys more than one "assault" rifle at a time in the border states, must have their information forwarded to ATF. I just can't watch him any longer, he has become a pompous ass. He is "just looking out for the folks" because I guess we are not smart enough to figure things out for ourselves. I bet he sees a decline in his ratings over the next few years.
Dobbs did a great job tonight and clearly put Oreilly in his place. OReilly is definitely blowing what little cover he had left with any followers of his who have the capacity to speak for themselves. |
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hulk2
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Posted - 07/27/2012 : 02:03:35 AM
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I also e-mailed O' reilly & let him know how far outside of reality he was on this "heavy weapon" rant of his. This one issue really put him in the same realm of other "KOOKs" he interview's & then try's to discredit. He does'nt do himself any favors by going on the air with such insane diatribe. Put's himself in the same category with all the other "KOOL-AID" drinker so-called news outlets....  |
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hobo9650
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Posted - 07/27/2012 : 02:10:09 AM
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Horse Plains Drifter
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Posted - 07/27/2012 : 09:50:13 AM
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Originally posted by wpage
RPG's and Bazooka's are not in the 2nd amendment...
A decent thing.
The hell they ain't. |
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swopjan
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Posted - 07/27/2012 : 9:04:58 PM
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He calls semi-automatic guns "heavy weapons." I didn't realize my .22 was so controversial.
I don't even consider a machine gun a heavy weapon unless it's crew served. I never watched O'Reilly before but he is clearly an idiot, and a loud one at that.
"An AK-47? That's not heavy armor?" No Bill, it's not heavy OR armor  |
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SCOUT5
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Posted - 07/27/2012 : 9:16:36 PM
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Originally posted by wpage
RPG's and Bazooka's are not in the 2nd amendment...
A decent thing.
Ignorance has a cure, it's called education, get you some. |
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HooverTactical
Member
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Posted - 07/27/2012 : 9:20:53 PM
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Originally posted by SCOUT5
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Originally posted by wpage
RPG's and Bazooka's are not in the 2nd amendment...
A decent thing.
Ignorance has a cure, it's called education, get you some.
get you some?
OK!
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SCOUT5
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Posted - 07/27/2012 : 9:30:44 PM
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Originally posted by FreudianSlippers
Last night, Bill O'Reilly repeated the ridiculous claims he was making about firearms and gun law in support of his position that Congress should "pass a new law that requires the sale of 'heavy weapons' to be reported to the FBI." His guest, Representative Jason Chaffetz, tried to correct him, but as usual, O'Reilly simply talked over him.
Here is the 5-minute video from last night's show: http://www.billoreilly.com/video?chartID=610&vid=539487484223522053
The "debate" begins 30 seconds into the video. Here are some of the highlights:
quote:
I said, "heavy weapons": mortars, howitzers, machine guns. In this age of terrorism, if you do a flight school, the FBI is alerted, but you can buy a machine gun, and the FBI doesn't know.
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Have you ever been to a gun show? Do you know that you can buy any weapon you want there, and there's no reporting any way. You can walk right out.
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You can buy an AK-47 in this country, and no federal agency will know you buy it, and as the guy in Colorado proved, you can buy a mass amount of ammunition on the 'Net, and nobody's reporting it.
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Say this guy who bought 60,000 rounds in Colorado -- which he did -- and the FBI in Denver got wind of that, they would've been watching him.
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There aren't any federal laws on the books to report that. There are seven states that require, if you buy an AK, and 43 that don't.
Dustin Ellermann, the winner of the third season of History Channel's Top Shot, wrote an excellent rebuttal: http://fishgame.com/deblog.php?p=539
From the article:
"There are plenty of regulations already in check for firearms ownership. These regulations already infringe on our 2nd Amendment rights. We need to remember that the 2nd Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with hunting, sports or even self defense. It is a God given right to preserve our freedom by allowing the citizens of America to be armed and able stand against tyranny of the government. That was the intent, and it is where American’s must draw the line."
He was close but not quite there. While we all know he is correct in stating as a purpose of the second amendment is to protect ourselves against tyranny, he is wrong in his comment on self defense. The 2nd amendment is based to the idea of self preservation, the most basic of natural rights. Self defense is certainly included in self preservation. IMO, when addressing the right covered under the 2nd amendment we should not sell it short. If we argue it does not include self defense, then why have a carry piece?
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Edited by - SCOUT5 on 07/27/2012 9:33:32 PM |
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Charles Johnson
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Originally posted by gary wray
I actually like the show but Bill knows nothing about guns but pretends that he does. He does not know the diff between a fully auto weapon, a semiauto, or a RPG and such. He shouts, finger points, yells, but knows nothing. He really PO'ed me last night when he started shouting at the guy he was "debating" (who was also lousy...I think on purpose to make Bill look good) about "heavy weapons" and such...and how we should not be able to purchase an AK (which he thinks all weapons called AK are fullyauto) and was completely confused on how many rounds the CO shooter had ("60,000") when all reports indicate he had 6,000 rds of .223 so Bill got lost on another digit or so. Just on and on. Being a historian myself, I would never buy his fakehistory book on Lincoln's ass (that most likely someone else "ghostwrote" for him) now as I guess hethinks the Prez was shot with a "heavy weapon" rather than a derringer
WOW, that was really well written.
I'm guessing "publish or perish" isn't the rule at WV trade schools, huh" |
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O'Reilly and the 2nd Amendment.
