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davidmosteller
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USA
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Posted - 12/26/2009 :  9:52:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are there any sale or buying issues with US. Rifle M14A which is selector capable but without the selector installed? What is a relative price rang for a Fed. Ord. Inc. Sr# 8xxx in 95+% condition, sloted upper hand guard synthetic stock.

Radar
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USA
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Posted - 12/26/2009 :  10:17:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If its selector capable you better have a class III licence

Up to my ass in brass and still shooting fast
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Nwcid
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USA
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Posted - 12/26/2009 :  10:34:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Once a machine gun always a machine gun so yeah there are some issues with what you want.

IF you find one that was legally and properly registered PRIOR to 1968 then you can legally buy one if you do it properly. You will have to follow ALL NFA rules and you do NOT need a Class 3 license to legally own a transferable machine gun. To find out about NFA rules read the sticky at the top of this section called "NFA FAQ".

IF it has not been properly registered prior to 1986 then there is NO legal way for a private person to own one.

I believe there are only a few actually military M14's on the open market and I believe the price is about $20,000.



Just a thought Why would you ask members of a gun forum if you should buy a gun. Kinda like an alcoholic going into a bar to hoping to have someone tell him not to drink.

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Bill DeShivs
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USA
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Posted - 12/26/2009 :  10:37:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Federal Ordinance receivers were semi-only and legal to transfer.

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cpermd
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Posted - 12/27/2009 :  01:33:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bill DeShivs

Federal Ordinance receivers were semi-only and legal to transfer.



What does that have to do with this thread?
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Bill DeShivs
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USA
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Posted - 12/27/2009 :  02:12:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Read the first post again.

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nmyers
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Posted - 12/27/2009 :  08:17:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Fed Ord M14-clone is worth $100-1,200, depending upon who made the parts & their condition. Without photos or a better description, we can't tell you much more.

You also failed to tell us if you are looking to buy, sell, or are just window shopping. Due to the poor quality of many Fed Ords, you should not consider buying one unless you are technically familiar with this type rifle, as the odds are against you.

Neal
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davidmosteller
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USA
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Posted - 12/27/2009 :  10:01:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you gentelmen I will include pic's and more info later I have the rifle available to me and am considering purchase but wish to give the owner a fair price to both of us, as the owner is a widow.
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mark christian
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Panama
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Posted - 12/27/2009 :  12:54:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All M14 service rifles are capable of hiving their selectors removed, which limits them to semi automatic fire, but this does not effect their classification as machine guns since full auto fire is easily restored. If you want a genuine and legal M14 your options total exactly three:

1)Locate an M14M. This was a M14 rifle (M for Modified) from the early '60s which had it's selector removed and the selector shaft welded into the semi auto position. These rifles were intended for issue to NRA affiliated clubs and match shooters but after about 100 were issued the ATTU (as the BATFE was then known) reversed it's position on the rifle, declared them all to be machine guns and then grandfathered the rifles already in civilian hands. As long as these rifles remain unmodified they are legal to own without restriction. There are fewer than 100 in total so get in line.

2) An amnesty registered M14. At the close of 1968 a general amnesty for machine guns and other National Firearms Act weapons was implemented for 30 days. During this one month period any machine guns or other assorted nasty guns you owned could be registered with no questions asked. As a result a surprising number of M14 rifles (along with fairly size able numbers of early select fire AR-15s and current issue M16s) were registered. Exactly where these rifles were obtained is pretty easy to guess, but it was an amnesty and all registrations were valid and these amnesty firearms are 100% legal to own. Like any machine guns, these cost a ton of cash; better than $15,000.

#) Re welded M14s. Once upon a time Uncle Sam was pretty casual with his garbage and when a rifle was worn out he chopped the receiver into two pieces tossed them into a drum with other chunks of scrap metal and sold it all to scrap dealers. There were plenty of enterprising folks who bought this scrap, sorted It the various pieces of firearms and resold them to the little cottage industry firearms builders who'd turn this stuff back into a firearm (of some sort). Up until May, 1986 you could buy a scrap M14 receiver, weld it back together, slap a new serial number on it to indicate that it was a totally new firearm and then register it. What you ended up with depended solely on who did the work and over all quality varied. These re welds typically sell for about half the price of an amnesty registered M14.

Springfield Armory Inc also produced limited numbers of selective fire M1A rifles and other firms also converted M1As to selective fire, but these are not true M14s, they are conversions.

These are your M14 options.

Edited by - mark christian on 12/27/2009 12:56:46 PM
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