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Spartacus
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Posted - 09/12/2012 :  11:21:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
remington and sharps both made large caliber long range rifles back in the day.
popular for hunting buffalo...
the remington was a rolling block and the sharps a falling block action.
both breech loaders, right?
can anyone tell me what the differences were?

thanks

tom


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fishkiller41
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Posted - 09/12/2012 :  11:58:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Rem. block was rolled back by hand to load/empty.
The "falling" block lowered by the use of a lever action.
also the falling block predated the roller.It originally cut the back off a paper cartridge and a "Cap" was used for ignition.
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FrancF
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Posted - 09/13/2012 :  12:02:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not an expert, but my original Navy experimental 1860 carbines and long rifle that were converted from "cap and ball" to rolling block's use a slide action behind the trigger guard. However! The ones I have are experimental Navy conversions in .54 Cal short center fire.

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forgemonkey
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Posted - 09/13/2012 :  12:04:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Main article: Falling-block action

A falling-block action (also known as a sliding-block action) is a single-shot firearm action in which a solid metal breechblock slides vertically in grooves cut into the breech of the weapon and actuated by a lever. Examples of firearms using the falling block action are the Sharps rifle


Main article: Rolling block

In a rolling block action the breechblock takes the form of a part-cylinder, with a pivot pin through its axis. The operator rotates or "rolls" the block to open and close the breech; it is a simple, rugged and reliable design. Rolling blocks are most often associated with firearms made by Remington in the later 19th century; in the Remington action the hammer serves to lock the breech closed at the moment of firing, and the block in turn prevents the hammer from falling with the breech open.
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Tailgunner1954
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Posted - 09/13/2012 :  05:21:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A falling block will handle more powerful cartridges safely.
A rolling block will fail, in a most spectacular fashion.

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Doc
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Posted - 09/13/2012 :  08:39:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, maybe not as bad as all that but the falling block is stronger. The Rolling Block was great for low-pressure black powder ammo back in the 19th century but I wouldn't build a 300 Magnum out of one, today.

Maybe a 30-30, though...




The Ruger #1 is a modern Falling Block design...


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Riomouse911
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Posted - 09/13/2012 :  11:25:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My little Remington .22 LR rolling block needs a barrel relining because the bore looks like it was bead-blasted, but the outside is pretty good. The falling block is one of the few actions I have never owned. But someday.....
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Spartacus
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Posted - 09/13/2012 :  2:27:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks forgemonkey, and all for the explanations. I googled it but couldn't make a lot of sense of it as I only have a sharps to refer to. Didn't really know how the remington was cycled. I've never seen one in person.
I'd like to shoot the sharps and remington side by side some day.
anyone have a big bore remington who wants to shoot my sharps 45-70??
thanks
tom


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The average response time for a 911 call is 4 minutes.
the average response time for a .357 magnum is 1400 FPS.
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