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nutfinn
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  4:36:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  4:41:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My first car was a 47 Chevy with vacuum shift. That was a real learning experience. If you didn't shift it out of third before you stopped, it would lock between gears I have drove just about every kind of stick there is. When I was 14 I bought a KB-5 1947 straight truck with a four speed and two speed. I made $14.00 a month payments on it. Hauled hay and grain with it and made hamburger and date money. It was like this picture, even the color.



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dennisjohnson
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  4:43:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes....all my vehicles are sticks...4 spd- 13 spd//
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montanajoe
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  4:52:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yep,I can. Have had several stick vehicles,and the wife and I were driver/ops one the Vol.fire dept several years back. The water tender at that time had a 2500 gal tank with no baffles on a old international grain truck. Had a 4speed with a 5 speed splitter. Wife drove it better than any of us guys, and most of the times she did not use the clutch once it got rolling. Just watch your 'R's' she use to say.


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HandLoad
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  6:16:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep, even Double Clutching Up and Down! Straight Cut Gears, No Synchro.

Now, Have You ever had to drive one home with No Clutch? Have done it many times. Cable Clutches Break the *&^%^&* Cable alla time! Hydraulics can go Tango Uniform, too!

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quote:
Originally posted by HandLoad

Yep, even Double Clutching Up and Down! Straight Cut Gears, No Synchro.

Now, Have You ever had to drive one home with No Clutch? Have done it many times. Cable Clutches Break the *&^%^&* Cable alla time! Hydraulics can go Tango Uniform, too!



I worked on building the turnpike in 1954. I was 14 and cocky. They brought up two 1952 F-700 Ford winch trucks from Texas. They told me don't worry about grinding the gears a little because they were straight cut and difficult to find the gears. I got in one and ran it up through the gears and never missed a one. I don't think I ever found those gears again. I just got it close and ripped them in. Never understood why Ford went so long with straight cut gears. My old International was a 1947 and it had synchronizers.


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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  6:55:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't driven a stick since yesterday. '88 C1500 short stepside w/ factory 5 speed. Most unusual for me, about 44 years ago, was my first M-B w/ 4 speed on the column. Worst pattern was my '77 Olds Omega w/ 260 & 5 speed. Reverse was forward/left - just where all my Vettes had first. What were they thinking?!

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Viktor
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  6:58:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My truck has one. Too bad my truck is currently broken, otherwise I'd still be driving it every day.
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hk-91
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  7:03:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes i can. Cool story as to how i learned how to drive one. My dad was Capt of the Fire department. One day he asked me if i wanted to learn how to drive a stick shift. We went out to the airport ( figured he was just checking on something at the station there). Anyway we went in and We got into one of the older trucks. Started out on one of the abandoned runways but got to take it out on the highway after i stated getting the hang of it. That is a day i will never forgot. I did alot of fun stuff with my dad but that day is on the top of my list. I mean how many people can say you learned how to drive a stick shift in a firetruck.
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Gashauler
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  7:09:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
85 ford escort 4sp, 84 ford exp 5sp, 96 ranger 5sp, 95 Z-28 6sp, current vehicle is a 2002 dodge 1500 quad cab with 4.7 and 5sp. Various Freightliners, Peterbuilts, and KW's. Have only had 1 automatic and I dearly missed having a stick.
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Sav99
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  8:40:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I won't own a car with an automatic trans. I currently have a 6 speed manual.

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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  9:35:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Learned on a 8N tractor, got to learn with a short trailer hooked on, so two learning curves in one day.

Still drive a stick most days, my Willys wagon has one, the 48 CJ2A I'm building has one. Most of our work trucks have a standard.



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c133
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  10:05:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I was 14 YO, my Dad used to let me drive around my paper route early Sunday mornings in his 1953 Chevy column shift. (under his supervision, of course) Thought I was hot shxxxt!!!!!

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austin20
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  10:11:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I learned to drive on a 71 Ford F100 with a stick.
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bambambam
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  11:23:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dad had a 67' Chevy 1/5 ton with a 3 on the tree.

That's what I learned to drive on about 10-11.
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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  11:56:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
had to drive an old dump truck one time, had 2 gear shifts, 1 one had 3 gears, second had five, no synchronizers, as obvious first one went from 1-5, then to get 6-10 you had to put it in second, and second shift back to first, and so on, cant remember much beyond it was a real pia






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CapnMidnight
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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  02:22:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can see there arn't any 2 stick gear artist here. First big truck I drove was a 1953 LT Mack with a Duplex and a 3 speed brownie, that was 3 sticks. A 5, a3 and a 2. Figure that one out.
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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  03:18:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My '93 F-150 has a 5 speed manual. I prefer manual so much that I converted my previous truck, a 1980 F-150, from auto to manual when I was 19.
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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  07:01:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My first car was an 85 Honda Prelude 5 spd...fun little car
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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  07:08:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I not only can ... I still do

My Pontiac Solstice is a 5 speed


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mijelo
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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  09:02:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My grandpa taught me at
10 yr/old on his "DoodleBug"
that you changed gears with
your left foot by depressing
and releasing the pedal
slightly for the different
transmission speeds.
That is all that I
remember about that,except
that it was made from a
ooolllddd Ford truck,
that was chopped down
to make a farm tractor
type machine.
I was walking tall then!!

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odentheviking
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quote:
Originally posted by LesWVa

What I started on at the age of 10 or 11. Bouncing around the farm in Dad so that it would fire twice on each rotation and made it a lot easier to get going.

Could put it in and hold it and Mom could still whip your asz for running through her.



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KSUmarksman
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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  1:51:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what the devil is a "straight stick"?

do you mean a regular manual (just plain "stick")?
or one of those funky rally car manuals where you just pop it forward or backward to shift? (like a motorcycle shifter)

or one that has no synchro?

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BT99
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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  2:49:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Stick shift was no problem. Grew up with them. But back in the early 60's had occasion to drive a Mack dump truck with a "Tri-Plex"
that was interesting. Ever drive one?
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I never had an automatic until after I was married, and it was because my first wife couldn't drive a standard.

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woodhog
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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  3:12:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
learned to drive log trucks in the 60's, 4x5's. Got pretty good, but the relief truck was a Mack with a totally different gearbox setup, mainbox changes were a pita for awhile, (think 80,000 lbs of truck going downhill or uphill on logging roads)lots of incentive there
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andrewsw16
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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  02:57:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep. Learn on one. Over the years have had several rice grinders and 'Merkin cars and truck that were manual. I made darn sure both my daughters learned on them. I told them, "You never know when some emergency may come up and the only vehicle available is a stick. Do you want to be standing there helpless while you or a friend bleeds to death?" Besides, sticks have at least one advantage over automatics. If you have left the headlights on and drained the battery, you can push start it and the battery will be recharged while you are driving home. When I was much younger and much poorer, I had a little rice grinder with a weak battery. I couldn't afford a new battery until payday, so I just made sure I parked at the high end of the parking lot. After work, I would just turn on the key, put it in 3rd, press the clutch and let her roll downhill then pop the clutch. Vroom. Heading home.
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bigboy12
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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  06:50:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I learned how to drive in an old '56 Chevy two-ton farm truck. When my dad felt that I was ready for the road, he let me drive his old Dodge with a 3 speed on the column.
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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  07:36:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whiteclouder

I learned on a vehicle that you hand-cranked to start and had a spark advance lever on the column.

Clouder..



2 speed with reverse on the floor? Forget cranking it, just park it headed downhill.

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  07:44:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Assuming 'straight stick' just refers to a manual transmission, yes I can. When I bought my Mustang I felt it would be a sin to buy one with an automatic.

Incidentally, my driver's ed teacher was a nun. She taught us early to use the right foot for both gas and brakes so you wouldn't ride the brake and gas at the same time, even in an auto. I always did what the nun said. She was a very kind person, not one of the brimstone types, but let's say I was scared enough starting out driving, that I wanted God on my side.... so I figured I better listen to her!

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  08:23:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my 17 year old was driving a stick at 10, packing in a dirt track. plus, I had him and the Ex's kids driving my water trucks, (18 speeds) around the lot when they were little...

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  09:41:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I grew up on a farm. That answers that question.

Our young 'uns are now 27, 23, 20 and 16 years old. Each had to be completely comfortable driving a stick before being allowed to drive alone. This included a start/stop on a hill with no roll back.

Currently the three younger ones are driving sticks. The 16 year old has a truck with an automatic, but prefers the car with the stick so he drives it all the time.

One reason for them driving a stick was we were pretty secure in the assumption that their friends would not be driving their cars when we weren't around.

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tacking1
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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  09:47:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JamesRK

If you learned to drive in a straight gear vehicle you will probably use your right foot for accelerator and brake for the rest of your life.

I think the most pain in the ass vehicle I ever drove was a straight gear forklift. If I remember correctly it was a Toyota but that was a long time ago.



Wow! don't most people, even with automatic transmissions, just use 1 foot?

I remember learning to use my heel on the break & toe on the accelerator on hills.

Did't Subaru have a car one time with a "hill holder" clutch?

I was a gofer once at a lumber yard and drove about 10 dcifferent manuals a day...was interesting way to learn to feel a clutch.

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  10:03:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First job driving wheat truck was in a late 40's Chevy with a straight-cut gear (I think they called them crashboxes?) transmission. Double-clutch up and down. Miss a gear as you're downshifting to climb a hill, and you get to stay in granny-low the rest of the way up.

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  10:08:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep, Crashboxes or Whiners...

and Yeah, I didn't learn to drive on a Model T and Model A, but I did drive them a lot, Later...

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  10:29:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I prefer a stick, although both of our vehicles today are autos. Not by preference, just the way it worked out.

Love that photo of the International flatbet truck. A fellow near our church has one just like it, in cherry condition.

My first car was an MGB. Throughout my adult life I've had a string of Chevy and International trucks, although my favorite was a 1951 Willys pickup. All standard shift, of course. In my early 60s I drove a 2 1/2 T service truck for the BLM, and a Freuhauf (sp?) dump truck with 10 forward speeds. Had to learn to shift without a clutch on that one, which took a bit. Old habits die hard.

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  10:43:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I learned in a 1929 Model "A" Ford before WW11, and have been driveing 'sticks' ever since.

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  11:55:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
drove a john deer tractor spreading cow poop on the farm at age nine,i had to stand up to shift as it had a hand clutch in 1952 and have never had a problem with manual shift since. eastbank.
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quote:
Originally posted by minitruck83

quote:
Originally posted by whiteclouder

I learned on a vehicle that you hand-cranked to start and had a spark advance lever on the column.

Clouder..



2 speed with reverse on the floor? Forget cranking it, just park it headed downhill.

Allen



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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  6:22:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
17yrs old, learned in a '56 GMC 3/4 ton 4spd.
I got my CDL in a GMC, 2 stroke Detroit 8V92, three shifters, mainbox, splitter, and a Brownie. Never knew what the hell gear I was in, but I passed the drivers test.
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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  6:26:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm having trouble with bent stick.


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I'm having trouble with bent stick.



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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  6:57:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One last comment. If you drive a streight correctly you can get good gas milage and longer brake life. My Ranger is pushing 200,000 and has had only one brake job.

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  9:19:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was do or no drive for me, 1973 15 years old, 66 Impala 3spd on the column. Man it sucked changing out that first clutch. Still got a stick. I can even drive it barefoot.
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Posted - 05/01/2012 :  12:14:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep. Started out on a International B-275 tractor, then Dad's 1963 Chevy P-Up.

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Posted - 05/01/2012 :  01:14:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Straight stick or stick has the shifter rod coming right out of the floor above the tranny. Around WW2, the shifter was mounted via linkages to the steering column and called standard shift. The advantage was in allowing a third passenger in the front seat.It also made former back seat operations very convenient.
Hot rodders ripped out that junk with its' lost motion and remounted shifters back in the floor. That allegedly improved speed shifting and cool factor. They ignored other front seat operations now made more difficult.
The worst stick shift vehicle I drove was a Jimmy 6X6 Ordnance shop van with a trailer. It had a dual range six speed trans with straight cut gears, meaning no synchromeshes and double clutching up and down all gears. Driving that overloaded, underpowered beast in a convoy with later higher powered, autotrans GMCs was a real sweating proposition. Fortunately, I only had to move it a few times to keep the enemy guessing.
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Posted - 05/03/2012 :  01:15:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I learned on a '63 Chev. Biscayne 4 door. It was the drivers Ed. car in high school. The babes hated it!! It had dual pedals on the passenger side. The instructor would have the girls "try" to get it moving uphill from a stop. Hilarious! I can still smell those clutchs frying a slow death. A 230 six, and three on the tree. I loved the sixties!
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Posted - 05/03/2012 :  01:26:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Uncle Buck had a van,with "4-on-the-tree". That was a cool truck.Wish I had it now!!
I can also operate an 18-speed "FULLER ROAD RANGER".(with SPICER clutch)
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Posted - 05/03/2012 :  02:56:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
kb5-7....47 chev truck 4speed, 3speed brownie, 2speed rear..across the sandy field beside a krause self propelled chopper one of first made( it still sits by shop)...and many others including a 6v72 two cycle diesel twin screw with a 9 speed & two speed rear...when i bought it the guy said put the fuel pedal to the floor and don't let up till supper
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