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My wife and I are both members. Enjoy their magazines "First Freedom" and "American Rifleman". I get one, she gets the other, with the membership. Phone calls can get annoying. Freebies are chinese made, wish they would correct that. Mk 19 stated it right, who else is going to Stand and Fight for our 2nd Amendment rights? Made it to the Convention here in Houston awhile back great show and great speakers.
The NRA is good if you support legislated access to firearms for yourself, you children and your grandchildren.
The 2nd Amendment Foundation the GOA are a much better choice if you support the Individual Right to possess firearms as stated in the Second Amendment.
One looks to government and legislation to pigeonhole a privilege. The other two look towards getting government out of the picture.
Your choice, of course, but for me the decision was fairly obvious.
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
There are things that I don't agree with but They have the strongest voice of any group by a thousands time over the second place. grope of gun owners. I am life member bought life membership for daughter when she was 2 years old. Going to do the same for my 2 Grand kids this year.
agree . maybe not 100% what we want, but the most prolific at being known and in the news , at least they keep gun rights in the headlines and the fear of the number of members is still some what of a leverage to some politicians .
its a small price to pay keep what pressure they can going , I know they have also did stupid things and agreed when they should not have.
I would love to see a group that can actually have a effect on the government and laws .
I am talking the members 100% back it . one real good method like no one goes to work until a law is repealed or a official is escorted out of office , have a well prepared list realistic of course like the constitution .. then we would have action . I am talking taxi driver , doctor's LEO ,every one no matter what you profession doctors to power plant operators to gas pumpers shut down the country see how long it takes to get what we want .
even in NY or Cal start by states stop whining and stay at home but it has to be everyone not a hand full of protesters on a Saturday morning .
Join it is a no brainer. Cost a few bucks and you can support GOA too. The larger the membership the more power they have with Congress, simple as that. The Anti NRA crowd might as well send money to the Democrats.
NO ONE, NO Organization, NO Politician is going to be in lock step with your every belief, or stance, but like I said not joining them is akin to hunters saying it is OK to ban semi-autos.
Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
quote:Originally posted by mogley98
Join it is a no brainer. Cost a few bucks and you can support GOA too. The larger the membership the more power they have with Congress, simple as that. The Anti NRA crowd might as well send money to the Democrats.
NO ONE, NO Organization, NO Politician is going to be in lock step with your every belief, or stance, but like I said not joining them is akin to hunters saying it is OK to ban semi-autos.
I agree. Joining = no brainer.
Using the brain, however, may result in a different choice.[:)]
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
Refusing to support the NRA because they are too ____ is in the same category as those Conservative Republicans that refuse to support a less Conservative Republican- both results are the same- the US is stuck with Liberal officeholders and laws.
Join they're getting better because the members are changing and the board of directors is chasing off the type like August Busch III and getting board director s like Ronnie Barret
Join, what other gun group is constantly mentioned during debates in congress. The liberals hate what the NRA stands for.
You may find fault with some of their policy'
s and don't think that they defend gun rights as strongly as they should. But, they are a force to be listened to, just because of the 5 million members.
By the way, I've been a life member for over 35 years.
quote:Originally posted by Ray B
Refusing to support the NRA because they are too ____ is in the same category as those Conservative Republicans that refuse to support a less Conservative Republican- both results are the same- the US is stuck with Liberal officeholders and laws.
Amen to that, Ray. We get 'Really Bad' because some True Believers are still holding out for 'Perfect'.
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by Ray B
Refusing to support the NRA because they are too ____ is in the same category as those Conservative Republicans that refuse to support a less Conservative Republican- both results are the same- the US is stuck with Liberal officeholders and laws.
Amen to that, Ray. We get 'Really Bad' because some True Believers are still holding out for 'Perfect'.
Maybe we get 'Really Bad' because that which is supported by the masses (the Dems, the GOP and the NRA as examples) are actually really bad.
Call me simple, but these three groups have been the Big Three on Capital Hill regarding Gun Rights for as long as I can remember, and the burdens placed upon the individual have become 'Really Bad'.
Simple question: Who did it?
Simple answer: The Democrats, the Republicans, and the NRA.
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
Might as well disband the NRA and run off any gun supporters who are not perfectly in line.
Ending up like Australia, England, California, New Jersey Etc.
Six hundred people or 600,000 people mean nothing, it will take tens of millions to have an effect on law. You know that.
That is the reason the NRA is no longer feared by Politicians like it was, and that is what puts them in a weaker position.
Out before the lock.
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by Ray B
Refusing to support the NRA because they are too ____ is in the same category as those Conservative Republicans that refuse to support a less Conservative Republican- both results are the same- the US is stuck with Liberal officeholders and laws.
Amen to that, Ray. We get 'Really Bad' because some True Believers are still holding out for 'Perfect'.
Maybe we get 'Really Bad' because that which is supported by the masses (the Dems, the GOP and the NRA as examples) are actually really bad.
Call me simple, but these three groups have been the Big Three on Capital Hill regarding Gun Rights for as long as I can remember, and the burdens placed upon the individual have become 'Really Bad'.
Simple question: Who did it?
Simple answer: The Democrats, the Republicans, and the NRA.
Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
Although always described as a cowboy, Roswellnative generally acts as a righter of wrongs or bodyguard of some sort, where he excels thanks to his resourcefulness and incredible gun prowesses.
Our entire family is life members. Wife, son, myself, mom, dad and sisters. My sisters and myself got a life membership when we graduated HS. I did the same for my son. Wife became a life member two years ago.JOIN. Oakie
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
The NRA is good if you support legislated access to firearms for yourself, you children and your grandchildren.
The 2nd Amendment Foundation the GOA are a much better choice if you support the Individual Right to possess firearms as stated in the Second Amendment.
One looks to government and legislation to pigeonhole a privilege. The other two look towards getting government out of the picture.
Your choice, of course, but for me the decision was fairly obvious.
I also belong to these other groups and your right in your assessment. The NRA is in the forefront of the news. I don't always agree with them and hate all the constant emails and letters asking for money, but they are no different then GOA or the other groups. Oakie
GOA and JFPO if you desire an organization that will NOT compromise the 2nd Amendment. However, if you want to step in line with the folks that choose "sensible gun laws", support of the BATF, support of Harry Reid, then by all means, join the Negotiated Rights Association. It's easy to join the huddled masses. But, if you choose to do the extensive research on your own, the obvious organizations to join in support of the 2nd Amendment and the Constitution will not include the NRA.
I do not believe any of us would be able to own a firearm legally if not for the NRA. We do not have to agree with everything about the NRA to support the basic principals.
quote:Originally posted by DirtyDawg
GOA and JFPO if you desire an organization that will NOT compromise the 2nd Amendment. However, if you want to step in line with the folks that choose "sensible gun laws", support of the BATF, support of Harry Reid, then by all means, join the Negotiated Rights Association. It's easy to join the huddled masses. But, if you choose to do the extensive research on your own, the obvious organizations to join in support of the 2nd Amendment and the Constitution will not include the NRA.
Join. I keep up memberships in the NRA, Gun Owners of America and the Second Amendment Foundation. Those are the three doing the most good.
Don't like any of them all that much. Constant scare tactics arriving in my mailbox and email trying to get me to send them more money. Buy more Chinese crap with their logo on it. Hell of a lot of bullpuckey and lies come attached to all that advertising and begging. One hell of a lot of what they scream about are bald faced lies.
Problem is with all that noise they are doing some good against the anti-gunners. They score some wins on the pro-gun side. So all they get from me is annual membership and the rest of their noise making goes in the trash.
Where would the gun rights be at this day and time had the NRA not been in existence? With no major opponent, the 2nd amendment would have been repealed or re-written. Like another poster said, the USA would be on the same list as Australia, England, etc.
quote:Originally posted by Wrangler
I canceled my membership. Felt like all they wanted was my money.
Let start a new organization. It will be 100% free. Magazine every month even better than theirs. Fight for everyone's rights, no charge. Pay all legal fees. Yes that's the way to go. Sign up now.its free. Just call with your address so we can mail you a free stamp an envelope with the form.
Jw
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Oh, and I forgot to mention: IBTL
I am also a GOA member.
Join, you may disagree with some of their stands but who else is working for your rights?
Oh, and I forgot to mention: IBTL
The 2nd Amendment Foundation the GOA are a much better choice if you support the Individual Right to possess firearms as stated in the Second Amendment.
One looks to government and legislation to pigeonhole a privilege. The other two look towards getting government out of the picture.
Your choice, of course, but for me the decision was fairly obvious.
Brad Steele
its a small price to pay keep what pressure they can going , I know they have also did stupid things and agreed when they should not have.
I would love to see a group that can actually have a effect on the government and laws .
I am talking the members 100% back it . one real good method like no one goes to work until a law is repealed or a official is escorted out of office , have a well prepared list realistic of course like the constitution .. then we would have action . I am talking taxi driver , doctor's LEO ,every one no matter what you profession doctors to power plant operators to gas pumpers shut down the country see how long it takes to get what we want .
even in NY or Cal start by states stop whining and stay at home but it has to be everyone not a hand full of protesters on a Saturday morning .
NO ONE, NO Organization, NO Politician is going to be in lock step with your every belief, or stance, but like I said not joining them is akin to hunters saying it is OK to ban semi-autos.
Join it is a no brainer. Cost a few bucks and you can support GOA too. The larger the membership the more power they have with Congress, simple as that. The Anti NRA crowd might as well send money to the Democrats.
NO ONE, NO Organization, NO Politician is going to be in lock step with your every belief, or stance, but like I said not joining them is akin to hunters saying it is OK to ban semi-autos.
I agree. Joining = no brainer.
Using the brain, however, may result in a different choice.[:)]
Brad Steele
You may find fault with some of their policy'
s and don't think that they defend gun rights as strongly as they should. But, they are a force to be listened to, just because of the 5 million members.
By the way, I've been a life member for over 35 years.
Maybe if you asked questions with the intent of finding the answers, you'd be able to see past the NRA smokescreen.
Join the NRA...who else fights for the NRA?
Refusing to support the NRA because they are too ____ is in the same category as those Conservative Republicans that refuse to support a less Conservative Republican- both results are the same- the US is stuck with Liberal officeholders and laws.
Amen to that, Ray. We get 'Really Bad' because some True Believers are still holding out for 'Perfect'.
quote:Originally posted by Ray B
Refusing to support the NRA because they are too ____ is in the same category as those Conservative Republicans that refuse to support a less Conservative Republican- both results are the same- the US is stuck with Liberal officeholders and laws.
Amen to that, Ray. We get 'Really Bad' because some True Believers are still holding out for 'Perfect'.
Maybe we get 'Really Bad' because that which is supported by the masses (the Dems, the GOP and the NRA as examples) are actually really bad.
Call me simple, but these three groups have been the Big Three on Capital Hill regarding Gun Rights for as long as I can remember, and the burdens placed upon the individual have become 'Really Bad'.
Simple question: Who did it?
Simple answer: The Democrats, the Republicans, and the NRA.
Brad Steele
Might as well disband the NRA and run off any gun supporters who are not perfectly in line.
Ending up like Australia, England, California, New Jersey Etc.
Six hundred people or 600,000 people mean nothing, it will take tens of millions to have an effect on law. You know that.
That is the reason the NRA is no longer feared by Politicians like it was, and that is what puts them in a weaker position.
Out before the lock.
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by Ray B
Refusing to support the NRA because they are too ____ is in the same category as those Conservative Republicans that refuse to support a less Conservative Republican- both results are the same- the US is stuck with Liberal officeholders and laws.
Amen to that, Ray. We get 'Really Bad' because some True Believers are still holding out for 'Perfect'.
Maybe we get 'Really Bad' because that which is supported by the masses (the Dems, the GOP and the NRA as examples) are actually really bad.
Call me simple, but these three groups have been the Big Three on Capital Hill regarding Gun Rights for as long as I can remember, and the burdens placed upon the individual have become 'Really Bad'.
Simple question: Who did it?
Simple answer: The Democrats, the Republicans, and the NRA.
Good thing issues are always simple, and allows the evaluation of them to be likewise.
The fact that the likes of anti-gun socialists like Clinton, Obama, Michael Moore despise the NRA should speak for itself.
I canceled my membership. Felt like all they wanted was my money.
What were you expecting for $25 or $30 bucks? A free gun? Of course they want your money it takes a lot of it to fight the liberal gun grabbers!
The NRA is good if you support legislated access to firearms for yourself, you children and your grandchildren.
The 2nd Amendment Foundation the GOA are a much better choice if you support the Individual Right to possess firearms as stated in the Second Amendment.
One looks to government and legislation to pigeonhole a privilege. The other two look towards getting government out of the picture.
Your choice, of course, but for me the decision was fairly obvious.
I also belong to these other groups and your right in your assessment. The NRA is in the forefront of the news. I don't always agree with them and hate all the constant emails and letters asking for money, but they are no different then GOA or the other groups. Oakie
GOA and JFPO if you desire an organization that will NOT compromise the 2nd Amendment. However, if you want to step in line with the folks that choose "sensible gun laws", support of the BATF, support of Harry Reid, then by all means, join the Negotiated Rights Association. It's easy to join the huddled masses. But, if you choose to do the extensive research on your own, the obvious organizations to join in support of the 2nd Amendment and the Constitution will not include the NRA.
+1
Don't like any of them all that much. Constant scare tactics arriving in my mailbox and email trying to get me to send them more money. Buy more Chinese crap with their logo on it. Hell of a lot of bullpuckey and lies come attached to all that advertising and begging. One hell of a lot of what they scream about are bald faced lies.
Problem is with all that noise they are doing some good against the anti-gunners. They score some wins on the pro-gun side. So all they get from me is annual membership and the rest of their noise making goes in the trash.
JOIN!!
I canceled my membership. Felt like all they wanted was my money.
Let start a new organization. It will be 100% free. Magazine every month even better than theirs. Fight for everyone's rights, no charge. Pay all legal fees. Yes that's the way to go. Sign up now.its free. Just call with your address so we can mail you a free stamp an envelope with the form.
Jw