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Justice Dept. Reverses Policy on Second Amendment

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited May 2002 in General Discussion
Justice Dept. Reverses Policy on Meaning of Second Amendment
Tue May 7, 3:03 PM ET
By LINDA GREENHOUSE The New York Times

WASHINGTON, May 7 The Justice Department (news - web sites), reversing decades of official government policy on the meaning of the Second Amendment, told the Supreme Court for the first time late Monday that the Constitution "broadly protects the rights of individuals" to own firearms.


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The position, expressed in a footnote in each of two briefs filed by Solicitor General Theodore B. Olson, incorporated the view that Attorney General John Ashcroft (news - web sites) expressed a year ago in a letter to the National Rifle Association. Mr. Ashcroft said that in contrast to the view that the amendment protected only a collective right of the states to organize and maintain militias, he "unequivocally" believed that "the text and the original intent of the Second Amendment clearly protect the right of individuals to keep and bear firearms."

It was not clear at the time whether the letter to the rifle association's chief lobbyist simply expressed Mr. Ashcroft's long-held personal opinion, or whether it marked a departure in government policy. The Supreme Court's view has been that the the Second Amendment protected only those rights that have "some reasonable relationship to the preservation of efficiency of a well regulated militia," as the court put it in United States v. Miller, a 1939 decision that remains the court's latest word on the subject.

But it has been evident since last fall that Mr. Ashcroft was in fact setting new government policy. In October, the federal appeals court in New Orleans, saying it did not find the Miller decision persuasive, declared that "the Second Amendment does protect individual rights," rights that nonetheless could be subject to "limited, narrowly tailored specific exceptions." Mr. Ashcroft quickly sent a letter to all federal prosecutors' offices, calling their attention to the decision in United States v. Emerson and informing them that "in my view, the Emerson opinion, and the balance it strikes, generally reflect the correct understanding of the Second Amendment."

He told the prosecutors to inform the department's criminal division of any case that raised a Second Amendment question so the department could "coordinate all briefing in those cases" and enforce federal law "in a manner that heeds the commands of the Constitution."

In the briefs it filed at the Supreme Court after the close of business on Monday, the Solicitor General's office attached the Ashcroft letter and included the following footnote to explain its new position:

"In its brief to the court of appeals, the government argued that the Second Amendment protects only such acts of firearm possession as are reasonably related to the preservation or efficiency of the militia. The current position of the United States, however, is that the Second Amendment more broadly protects the rights of individuals, including persons who are not members of any militia or engaged in active military service or training, to possess and bear their own firearms, subject to reasonable restrictions designed to prevent possession by unfit persons or to restrict the possession of types of firearms that are particularly suited to criminal misuse."

While announcing the government's new position, the briefs do not ask the court to respond by taking any action itself. In both cases, defendants charged with gun offenses raised Second Amendment defenses and appealed to the Supreme Court. One is the Emerson case, now called Emerson v. United States, No. 01-8780, an appeal by a doctor who was charged with violating a federal law that makes it a crime for someone to own a gun while under a domestic violence restraining order. The other is Haney v. United States, No. 01-8272, an appeal by a man convicted of owning two machine guns in violation of federal law.

Solicitor General Olson urged the Supreme Court to turn down both appeals. He said that even accepting an individual right to bear arms, the application of the laws at issue in both cases reflected the kind of narrowly tailored restrictions by which that right could reasonably be limited. Consequently, there was no warrant for the court to take either case, the briefs said.


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"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878

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  • cpilericpileri Member Posts: 447 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    bout time

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    "The day that they come get your guns, is just
    one day before they use them on you!"
  • CAndres35CAndres35 Member Posts: 453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    we need more casae law on this. there needs to be a precedent set not just a passing opinion that could be changed with the next politician. i hope they can get a case or two in front of the supreme court to uphold this opinion before we have a change in administations. carl
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    We do need more case law in the defense of our 2nd amendment rights, but I feel sorry for the poor guinea pigs that have to loose their money and livelyhoods to do so. In my eyes they are heros, just like our veterans that gave some or gave all in defense of our rights.

    I just wish I had a dollar for every gun I wanted, then I'd be a rich man.
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    There was a federal court decision affecting several, but not all, of the United States recently. Hopefully that case will be used as precedent when further challenges come up in other districts. It could become the blueprint for the entire country. I also like Josey1's signature (so much that I'm borrowing a version of it for myself) quoting an 1878 state supreme court decision. There is plenty of historical precedent, documentation and legal opinion, it's just all being ridiculed or re-interpreted by the gun control lobby.

    Of course, even the NRA fears a US Supreme Court decision at the wrong moment in time. As confident as we are of a big win and a justification of our ideals by a truly objective court, how often does one have an absolutely objective court? But we do have a very favorable atmosphere right now in some ways and I can only hope these elements will lead to the sunset of the assault weapons bans in due time.

    - Life NRA Member
    If dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If this works out, it may not offset all the damage of the 1939 Miller case, but the opinion did not, by any objective reading, hold that the Second Amendment was a collective right. That interpretation has never been clearly enunciated outside of the collected delusions of Teddy Chappaquidick and Sarah Brady. The firearms phobics convinced themselves that this was the holding in Miller, and have tried to set that as the precedent in the public's mind, but it is a creature of their wants, not the reality. There is a lot of stained underwear at VPC tonight . . . .
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