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Fox News sickens me

KodiakkKodiakk Member Posts: 5,582
edited September 2008 in General Discussion
I've been watching the news alot yesterday and today. I notice Fox news keeps pushing and pushing for this bail out. They give citizens no mind at all. Just now they said "Well we heard from the vocal minority yesterday, but most Americans want this bail out to go through."

Folks we are to lowly and stupid to be listened to is the general thrust I've gotten from both politicians and the news stations. Doesn't that piss anyone else off?

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    CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,595 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I watch Fox news all the time and have not noticed any big push by them one way or the other.
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    KodiakkKodiakk Member Posts: 5,582
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
    I watch Fox news all the time and have not noticed any big push by them one way or the other.


    Then you sir are completely high. They are none stop talking about we have to get some bill through or else the entire world will end and not to listen to citizens folks saying HELL NO! For instance they went to a "normal town" and pulled two people and a small shop owner and asked them what they thought (if you notice they were sitting there waiting for their time to speak). All three just happened to say the goverment needs to give some kind of bail out. Yet the calls were 20 to 1 and in some places as high as 100 to 1 NO BAIL OUT.

    Honestly I can't beleive you said that.
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    Spider7115Spider7115 Member, Moderator Posts: 29,714 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
    I watch Fox news all the time and have not noticed any big push by them one way or the other.


    Me neither. I think they're presented a lot of various opinions pretty well.
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    Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shepard Smith,.......the master of doom is one using the "vocal minority" phrase.

    This is the same "man" that cried on camera numerous times during Katrina while he watched gangbangers wading through the water, and defecating in the stadium.

    He is an a-hole!
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
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    CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,595 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Kodiakk
    quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
    I watch Fox news all the time and have not noticed any big push by them one way or the other.


    Then you sir are completely high. They are none stop talking about we have to get some bill through or else the entire world will end and not to listen to citizens folks saying HELL NO! For instance they went to a "normal town" and pulled two people and a small shop owner and asked them what they thought (if you notice they were sitting there waiting for their time to speak). All three just happened to say the goverment needs to give some kind of bail out. Yet the calls were 20 to 1 and in some places as high as 100 to 1 NO BAIL OUT.

    Honestly I can't beleive you said that.


    Because I saw something different than you, you have to insult me and tell me I am high? Someone can't have a different opinion than you withour being insulted?
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    KodiakkKodiakk Member Posts: 5,582
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
    quote:Originally posted by Kodiakk
    quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
    I watch Fox news all the time and have not noticed any big push by them one way or the other.


    Then you sir are completely high. They are none stop talking about we have to get some bill through or else the entire world will end and not to listen to citizens folks saying HELL NO! For instance they went to a "normal town" and pulled two people and a small shop owner and asked them what they thought (if you notice they were sitting there waiting for their time to speak). All three just happened to say the goverment needs to give some kind of bail out. Yet the calls were 20 to 1 and in some places as high as 100 to 1 NO BAIL OUT.

    Honestly I can't beleive you said that.


    Because I saw something different than you, you have to insult me and tell me I am high? Someone can't have a different opinion than you withour being insulted?


    Eh if you want to be all sensative and take it as a insult go ahead.

    Fair and balanced my butt. They always claim to be, however they are extremely biased and very rarely balanced. Even before this issue.

    It pisses me off when I hear citizens blown off so easily.
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    We watch fox and havent noticed it being said either...so I guess that puts us in the quote:Then you sir are completely higharea as well...

    Perhaps you sir, are the one who is high as you are the only one out of the rest who have answered this thread who thinks they are pushing it..
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    KodiakkKodiakk Member Posts: 5,582
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
    I watch Fox news all the time and have not noticed any big push by them one way or the other.


    Me neither. I think they're presented a lot of various opinions pretty well.


    Give me a example of just once. I've not heard them say anything positive about citizens not picking up the bill for this bail out. I've not heard them once give a arguement about letting the chips fall where they may. Anything they speak of this they start talking about noone getting a paycheck and about America dieing ASAP.
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    KodiakkKodiakk Member Posts: 5,582
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BlackRoses
    We watch fox and havent noticed it being said either...so I guess that puts us in the quote:Then you sir are completely higharea as well...

    Perhaps you sir, are the one who is high as you are the only one out of the rest who have answered this thread who thinks they are pushing it..


    Stop or you're going to make me cry............. Sorry if I couldn't give two poops whether anyone agrees with me or not. This is what I've seen.
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    TrinityScrimshawTrinityScrimshaw Member Posts: 9,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I guess I am completely high.[:D]

    Trinity +++
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    Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kodiakk,.........as I posted above, I HAVE heard Smith use exactly that phrase.

    How is a minority made up of 75% plus of people?

    The biggest part that you must remember is they are looking for ratings,.......the more they can tick folks off, the higher their ratings go.

    That is the BIG reason for the comments that we both have heard.
    I still hate Shepard Smith![xx(]
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
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    RockatanskyRockatansky Member Posts: 11,175
    edited November -1
    I've read the whole thread, and all I can say that someone needs some
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    KodiakkKodiakk Member Posts: 5,582
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by TrinityScrimshaw
    I guess I am completely high.[:D]

    Trinity +++


    Thank God someone with some sense of humor that doesn't take everything to heart. [:D]
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    Spider7115Spider7115 Member, Moderator Posts: 29,714 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Kodiakk
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
    I watch Fox news all the time and have not noticed any big push by them one way or the other.


    Me neither. I think they're presented a lot of various opinions pretty well.


    Give me a example of just once. I've not heard them say anything positive about citizens not picking up the bill for this bail out. I've not heard them once give a arguement about letting the chips fall where they may. Anything they speak of this they start talking about noone getting a paycheck and about America dieing ASAP.




    Sure. This is from Alexis Glick, former top trader at Morgan Stanley and currently Business Director at Fox News:

    The FDIC should be the centerpiece to a Housing Solution without a Bailout Bill

    The FDIC should use a provision of the 1991 law and request that all US deposits be backed by the US government. This will stop runs on the banks both through lines on Main Street, and through on-line banking. This would restart the flow of credit on Main Street as smaller banks are reluctant to lend as depositors go elsewhere.

    The FDIC has two lines of credit with the US Treasury. A $30 billion line direct to the US Treasury has never been tapped. A $40 billion line of credit to the Federal Finance Bank, which is used on occasion when the FDIC takes on illiquid assets.
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    KodiakkKodiakk Member Posts: 5,582
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    Kodiakk,.........as I posted above, I HAVE heard Smith use exactly that phrase.

    How is a minority made up of 75% plus of people?

    The biggest part that you must remember is they are looking for ratings,.......the more they can tick folks off, the higher their ratings go.

    That is the BIG reason for the comments that we both have heard.
    I still hate Shepard Smith![xx(]


    SHHHH we're high! Don't let folks know.
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    KodiakkKodiakk Member Posts: 5,582
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by Kodiakk
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
    I watch Fox news all the time and have not noticed any big push by them one way or the other.


    Me neither. I think they're presented a lot of various opinions pretty well.


    Give me a example of just once. I've not heard them say anything positive about citizens not picking up the bill for this bail out. I've not heard them once give a arguement about letting the chips fall where they may. Anything they speak of this they start talking about noone getting a paycheck and about America dieing ASAP.




    Sure. This is from Alexis Glick, former top trader at Morgan Stanley and currently Business Director at Fox News:

    The FDIC should be the centerpiece to a Housing Solution without a Bailout Bill

    The FDIC should use a provision of the 1991 law and request that all US deposits be backed by the US government. This will stop runs on the banks both through lines on Main Street, and through on-line banking. This would restart the flow of credit on Main Street as smaller banks are reluctant to lend as depositors go elsewhere.

    The FDIC has two lines of credit with the US Treasury. A $30 billion line direct to the US Treasury has never been tapped. A $40 billion line of credit to the Federal Finance Bank, which is used on occasion when the FDIC takes on illiquid assets.



    I must of missed that one. Want 10 examples of the oppisite? [:D]
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    Spider7115Spider7115 Member, Moderator Posts: 29,714 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Kodiakk
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by Kodiakk
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
    I watch Fox news all the time and have not noticed any big push by them one way or the other.


    Me neither. I think they're presented a lot of various opinions pretty well.


    Give me a example of just once. I've not heard them say anything positive about citizens not picking up the bill for this bail out. I've not heard them once give a arguement about letting the chips fall where they may. Anything they speak of this they start talking about noone getting a paycheck and about America dieing ASAP.




    Sure. This is from Alexis Glick, former top trader at Morgan Stanley and currently Business Director at Fox News:

    The FDIC should be the centerpiece to a Housing Solution without a Bailout Bill

    The FDIC should use a provision of the 1991 law and request that all US deposits be backed by the US government. This will stop runs on the banks both through lines on Main Street, and through on-line banking. This would restart the flow of credit on Main Street as smaller banks are reluctant to lend as depositors go elsewhere.

    The FDIC has two lines of credit with the US Treasury. A $30 billion line direct to the US Treasury has never been tapped. A $40 billion line of credit to the Federal Finance Bank, which is used on occasion when the FDIC takes on illiquid assets.



    I must of missed that one. Want 10 examples of the oppisite? [:D]


    Too late now. You only asked for one. [:D]
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    joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why am I still getting new credit card offers and remorgage requests
    if things are this bad?
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    KodiakkKodiakk Member Posts: 5,582
    edited November -1
    Alert: stocks jump up on hopes of new rescure package.

    On Fox now. Only thing that's holding us up is the market expecting some bailout package from our goverment. Doesn't socialism smell sweet in the morning to some eh?
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    Spider7115Spider7115 Member, Moderator Posts: 29,714 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by joeaf1911a1
    Why am I still getting new credit card offers and remorgage requests
    if things are this bad?


    Because they still have money although they're being more selective as to whom they give it to.

    We keep hearing about $700 billion in "bad" paper. Has anyone heard how much "good paper" is on their books? They don't want you to know that. [:(!]
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    GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    Some of the anchors are certainly bias, but I dont feel like they are pushing it on me. Fox more often, go out of there way to be balanced. Turn on MSNBC if you want to see bias.
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    Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by joeaf1911a1
    Why am I still getting new credit card offers and remorgage requests
    if things are this bad?


    Because they still have money although they're being more selective as to whom they give it to.

    We keep hearing about $700 billion in "bad" paper. Has anyone heard how much "good paper" is on their books? They don't want you to know that. [:(!]

    And therein lies the point,.......the "bailout" involves the Government taking only the bad paper.

    Of course, according to them, with time most of it will pay off,........right![xx(]

    Doesn't anyone see that Paulson is an ex Goldman Sachs exec, and we also have a Fed Reserve member of the same persuasion.

    They let Lehman go down the tubes,......no exposure for Goldman, and eliminated a competitor in one swoop.

    AIG, on the other hand, could have cost Goldman upwards of 20 billion from what I have read,.........hmmmnn?
    AIG was "bailed out"!

    Think folks!
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
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    codenamepaulcodenamepaul Member Posts: 2,931
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Kodiakk
    Alert: stocks jump up on hopes of new rescure package.

    On Fox now. Only thing that's holding us up is the market expecting some bailout package from our goverment. Doesn't socialism smell sweet in the morning to some eh?


    Uh.No. That would be my morning "movement"
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by joeaf1911a1
    Why am I still getting new credit card offers and remorgage requests
    if things are this bad?


    Because they still have money although they're being more selective as to whom they give it to.

    We keep hearing about $700 billion in "bad" paper. Has anyone heard how much "good paper" is on their books? They don't want you to know that. [:(!]


    Exactly! Approx. 80% of people are paying moragages on time (and that is a "true" majority).

    Ditto C/C holders.

    Let the house of cards fall, and start anew.
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    He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 50,951 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you don't like Fox news, don't watch it. Problem solved. Duh.
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    paboogerpabooger Member Posts: 13,953
    edited November -1
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    whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Kodiakk
    quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
    I watch Fox news all the time and have not noticed any big push by them one way or the other.


    Then you sir are completely high. They are none stop talking about we have to get some bill through or else the entire world will end and not to listen to citizens folks saying HELL NO! For instance they went to a "normal town" and pulled two people and a small shop owner and asked them what they thought (if you notice they were sitting there waiting for their time to speak). All three just happened to say the goverment needs to give some kind of bail out. Yet the calls were 20 to 1 and in some places as high as 100 to 1 NO BAIL OUT.

    Honestly I can't beleive you said that.


    So youre hyperbole is somehow more relevant than their's?

    Clouder..
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    Spider7115Spider7115 Member, Moderator Posts: 29,714 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by PBJloaf
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by joeaf1911a1
    Why am I still getting new credit card offers and remorgage requests
    if things are this bad?


    Because they still have money although they're being more selective as to whom they give it to.

    We keep hearing about $700 billion in "bad" paper. Has anyone heard how much "good paper" is on their books? They don't want you to know that. [:(!]


    Exactly! Approx. 80% of people are paying moragages on time (and that is a "true" majority).

    Ditto C/C holders.

    Let the house of cards fall, and start anew.


    I agree. If 20% of their paper, or $700 billion, is bad, then 80%, or $2.8 TRILLION, is good. The profits from that paper, plus sales proceeds from foreclosures or the discounted sale of their bad paper to the private sector, can be used to offset their losses and they'll still come out ahead without a federal bailout.
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    Spider7115Spider7115 Member, Moderator Posts: 29,714 ******
    edited November -1
    One other thing: A lot of paper is delinquent but not necessarily "bad". If some of those people were able to make their mortgage payments on time until their ARM went sky-high and made it unaffordable but are still willing and able to make their former payment, they should be allowed to refinance at a reasonable, fixed rate. That will convert a lot of bad paper to good receivables.
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    RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    Whiteclouder, how dare you criticize the man's bole?
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    prangleprangle Member Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [/quote]Turn on MSNBC if you want to see bias.
    [/quote]



    +1 [:D][:)]
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    whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    Whiteclouder, how dare you criticize the man's bole?


    Yer right. [8D]
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    sarge_3adsarge_3ad Member Posts: 8,387 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    All the major news outlets spew propaganda. Some lean left, while others to the right. Both have the same goals and that is to dumb down the American sheep. Both sides are controlled by members of the CFR, and are for the NWO.
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    ripley16ripley16 Member Posts: 4,834
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    Shepard Smith,.......the master of doom is one using the "vocal minority" phrase.

    This is the same "man" that cried on camera numerous times during Katrina while he watched gangbangers wading through the water, and defecating in the stadium.

    He is an a-hole!


    You are confused. The Katrina crybaby was Anderson Cooper of CNN.
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    Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ripley16
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    Shepard Smith,.......the master of doom is one using the "vocal minority" phrase.

    This is the same "man" that cried on camera numerous times during Katrina while he watched gangbangers wading through the water, and defecating in the stadium.

    He is an a-hole!


    You are confused. The Katrina crybaby was Anderson Cooper of CNN.

    Actually not,......I don't watch CNN.
    Maybe AC cried too, but I watched SS get "watery eyes" several times while he described the abuse of the people of NOLA.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
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    PanzerSlayer2PanzerSlayer2 Member Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I see it more on the discuss shows but not the news. Don't forget that these average Americans are the ones that got ARMs, 120% home equity loans and Interest only mortgages in the first place....
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    kimikimi Member Posts: 44,723 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Kodiakk
    I've been watching the news alot yesterday and today. I notice Fox news keeps pushing and pushing for this bail out. They give citizens no mind at all. Just now they said "Well we heard from the vocal minority yesterday, but most Americans want this bail out to go through."

    Folks we are to lowly and stupid to be listened to is the general thrust I've gotten from both politicians and the news stations. Doesn't that piss anyone else off?


    Although Fox News represents a far right entity to the left, it is still a dyed in the wool, politically correct organization.
    What's next?
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