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Military has a 70% Divorce Rate
Red223
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I've always wanted DOD to say what the divorce rate was for military members....and it finally comes out:
"The U.S. military has a 70 percent divorce rate, which exceeds the national average by 20 percent, according to Lt. Cmdr. Dan Link, a chaplain for Naval Base Guam."
http://www.guampdn.com/guampublishing/navigator/data/EEpykkVypuuOuihAef.htm
Not that I was shocked or anything.
"The U.S. military has a 70 percent divorce rate, which exceeds the national average by 20 percent, according to Lt. Cmdr. Dan Link, a chaplain for Naval Base Guam."
http://www.guampdn.com/guampublishing/navigator/data/EEpykkVypuuOuihAef.htm
Not that I was shocked or anything.
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I am curious as to which scientific research methods he used to gather his data and test his hypothesis.
I think 70% is high, but as they say, statistics lie and liers use statistics [;)].
I do know more than one spouse who has stayed with their soldier until they hit 10 years of federal service and then punched out with 50% of the soldiers future retirement; an action we can thank our legislature for, as ridiculous as it is. This seems like highway robbery to me, a soldier trains, deploys, sweats, bleeds and damn near dies for 20 years and his ex-wife of 10 years is GRANTED an automatic payment in the form of 50% of his retirement paycheck.
Just sad. [:(][:(]
NSDQ!
"The Lord knows the way I take, and when He has tested me, I shall come forth as gold" JOB 23:10
You know the saying, the happiest military member ain't with a round eyed girl.[;)] [:0] how true... how true. Perhaps my wive can have reconstructive surgery in order to take the roundness out of her eyes [:D][:D]
NSDQ!
"The Lord knows the way I take, and when He has tested me, I shall come forth as gold" JOB 23:10
I've noticed in my years anyone with over 15 years in had a slant eyed wife. Anyone that had one sooner was consider very intelligent.[:D][:D]
I'm not being racist or anything but asian girls understand a man's sacrifices for his family more than non-asian girls.
I'm one of the converted.[;)]
It's factual statistics.[:D]
joe
just a guess.. stir stir
"I will no longer debate a liberal because I feel they are beneath contempt. Just communicating with one contaminates a person." - whiteclouder
Thats cuz, just like in the Whiskey Lullaby video, the woman is a dirty cheater [}:)]
Quite frequently, she's not the only one cheating. One of my friends in the Navy is married and is with more women in an average week than I have been in my life. Not saying it's all that many, but it's more than a married man should by an order of magnitude.
For your information, I hope you never need to use it.
In my nearly 17 years of service, I've never heard of anyone over 10 getting out of the 50% retirement loss... except for you. Congrats, got any tips I can pass along to my soldiers?
NSDQ!
"The Lord knows the way I take, and when He has tested me, I shall come forth as gold" JOB 23:10
joe
former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, former navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction. NRA certified instructor.
Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
Former NSSA All American
Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
MO, CT, VA.
.... most people in the military are there as a last resort to homelessness, looking for freebies so they can go on to something better later, or were sold by recruiters to have pride and to do your part. though its all volunteer, very few are called to serve god and country and do a good job. .... Bobski, I respect your opinion, but I have not ONE individual soldier in my company which fits into that descriptive category.
In fact it is quite the opposite. I have a soldier with a JD, three soldiers with Master's Degrees (hell, my 1SG will complete his MS this semester) and well over half of my company have either a BS or a BA.
Now before you throw the BS flag, I'll tell you that I am the Company Commander of a Military Intelligence unit, and I understand we have some exceptions rather than rules here, but by and large I see a more competent fighting force than I remember back when I enlisted in 1988.
NSDQ!
"The Lord knows the way I take, and when He has tested me, I shall come forth as gold" JOB 23:10
My father judged me based on the BS that you stated in your post. It took him six months to pull his head out and realize what I've accomplished. Today's military is different from the military of your experience.
I think a large number of those divorces are also soldiers who can't take living in the Barracks(Horrible living conditions) so they set up an arrangement with another soldier in order to get off base and be left alone. I don't think you can rate those statistics as saying anything really provocative. Oh and when soldiers are deployed you would be amazed at the number of finger tan lines you will spot in the clubs.[}:)]
mkirkland--Today's BOSS program and barracks conditions are pretty much like living in college dorms except that your rooms have to be clean but you can have your own bedding and put up tasteful posters and pretty much decorate as you please. I put down a full piece of carpet on my floor when I was at Fort Lewis because it was easier to vacuum than it was to wax. We had our own bathrooms at Fort Drum and NCO's in the barracks have their own NCO room which is usually larger than a typical room sans roommate due to NCO status. Anyone that spends much time in the barracks is probably a loser anyways. The grass around the barracks still needs to be mowed. The snow still needs to be shoveled in places like Fort Drum, NY. I was on a mowing detail once and I voluntarily helped out after graveyards with shoveling on more than one occasion. Barracks soldiers have it easy these days. Most Army posts have built or are in the process of building new barracks buildings where you access your barracks room from the outside. There is no hallway connecting all rooms so you have more privacy still.
Unfortunately, you're right about the finger tan lines. I arrived at Fort Drum when most of the 10th Mountain Division was deployed to Bosnia. I'd stop by the clubs during graveyards just to mingle with the club operators to see if there were any problems and then I'd head out. I've been propositioned many times by the spouses of deployed soldiers.
R/
Dave
People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news.
-- A. J. Liebling
former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, former navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction. NRA certified instructor.
Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
Former NSSA All American
Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
MO, CT, VA.
By the way....the Army's standards for a H.S. Senior to enlist are higher. They Navy requires a 31 and we require a 50. A very rare exception will allow us to sink as low as the Navy, Air Force or USMC with regards to AFQT for a H.S. Senior. By today's standards, less than 1% of people recruited for the Army has a GED. I turn people away with GED's all the time.
We're recruiting a different breed today. It's COMPLETELY different from what you describe. Ever recruit during the entire duration of a prolonged war where your service RAISED the enlistment standards? The war in which we are currently engaged has not HELPED enlistments at all. 9/11 didn't to $H!+ for this region of the country. The only people that "walked in" were the typical broke unqualified people who thought we lowered the standards. I can see where you'd have the opinion that you have after working in NYC. NYC doesn't make the entire nation's mission. I've been a recruiter twice as long as you were a recruiter and I've been recruiting RECENTLY. Don't speak on behalf of the Army. The Navy may still be the way you describe. The Army isn't.
I hate to think what the military divorce rate would be if SpecOps personnel were not predominantly gay.
DWS--Don't forget it was the SpecOps community that returned to Fort Bragg after "fighting the good fight" and murdered several of their wives that they suspected were cheating on them.
DWS--Don't forget it was the SpecOps community that returned to Fort Bragg after "fighting the good fight" and murdered several of their wives that they suspected were cheating on them.
That was the reported reason, sure. But the real reason was despair over leaving the nightly ACOG and Vaseline parties with a HumVee mechanic named Ken.
Guntech, I think you were able to sneak on over on the old ex-wife. I've had two soldiers in my company go through a divorce tis year, and as soon as their wive's went to JAG, they were given the 50% figure no sooner than they sat down.
In my nearly 17 years of service, I've never heard of anyone over 10 getting out of the 50% retirement loss... except for you. Congrats, got any tips I can pass along to my soldiers?
NSDQ!
Nightstalker, The law hasn't changed. What does JAG have to do with it? They can help you with a legal seperation but, not in civil court. The presiding judge is the one that has the final say. Don't ask for names but I know of several people that were told the same thing and got a good lawyer. One got out at 25% the other at 35%. Both of them were career soldiers with over 20 years in the Army AND their marriages. You have to fight and show that you know the law.
Are you in command? I seem to remember that from an earlier post. Ask at JAG again and then ask a civilian attorney that is familiar with it. Tell your soldiers NOT to accept it as fact and get a lawyer to fight for them. $2500 for the lawyer is NOTHING compared to loss of 50% of your retirement for 30 or 40 years!!!!
Phil
I learn something new everyday.
quote:Originally posted by idsman75
DWS--Don't forget it was the SpecOps community that returned to Fort Bragg after "fighting the good fight" and murdered several of their wives that they suspected were cheating on them.
That was the reported reason, sure. But the real reason was despair over leaving the nightly ACOG and Vaseline parties with a HumVee mechanic named Ken.
There's a lot to be said for the sensation derived from stroking a lubed-up ACOG.
quote:Originally posted by idsman75
DWS--Don't forget it was the SpecOps community that returned to Fort Bragg after "fighting the good fight" and murdered several of their wives that they suspected were cheating on them.
That was the reported reason, sure. But the real reason was despair over leaving the nightly ACOG and Vaseline parties with a HumVee mechanic named Ken.
That's KENNETH to you...
Mateomasfeo
"I am what I am!" - Popeye
Phil
I learn something new everyday.
"What's the frequency Kenneth...."
In the wussy AF you already need more than an Associates to get above E-7.
Another factor on why the military doesn't have a 100% Divorce rate....the other 30% ain't been deployed to Korea or the Middle East yet.[:D][:D]
Boy this thread really has stirred the pot...keep 'em coming.
*scratches head all confused*