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Any David Hackworth fans out there?

idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
edited May 2002 in General Discussion
I love just about anything that COL (Ret) David Hackworth has written. My first exposure to Hack was his book "About Face" and then I gobbled up "Hazardous Duty" in about a day. Well, I lent my brother "Hazardous Duty" before he headed back to West Point the last time I saw him. Hack was signing autographs at their bookstore today and my bro got him to sign it. It went a little something like this:

SSG (name),

--Give em hell!!!

Warmly,

Hack



Damn I can't wait to get that book back. Is there anyone else here that thinks Hack is the man?

SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
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  • boogerbooger Member Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    YES, I'm a big fan. When he's on T.V. talking I tell everyone to shut up and listen, this guy KNOWS what he's talking about. I'll have to pay attention and see if he's doing any book signings in Mississippi any time soon.

    Them ducks is wary.
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  • michael minarikmichael minarik Member Posts: 478 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, on the topic of books by Col David H, you now ought to read the ROGUE WARRIOR SERIES, by Richard Marcinko & John Weisman(i think)....after reading the first page you......you won't quit: all i can say is WOW!
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bumped into Marcinko in the mess hall during my second year at West Point. He was short and fat and had a long pony tail. I couldn't imagine him as a Spec Ops kind of guy.

    SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not me.

    Clouder..
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  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    Put me down as a big fan!!

    -Charlie

    "It's the stuff dreams are made of Angel"NRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com
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  • .280 freak.280 freak Member Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Clouder -

    Thinking about the Admiral Boorda incident, with all the ramifications vis a vis Hackworth, or is it more than that?
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Who?
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  • .280 freak.280 freak Member Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He Dog -

    Is your question who is Hackworth, or who was Boorda?
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    idsman....looks can be deceiving. Beach
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    .280- Yup. I have no idea who either of them are.
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    He Dog, Admiral Boorda was the Navy CNO who put a pistol in his mouth and pulled the trigger after journalist Hackworth had found out that Boorda had a "V" on a Navy Commendation Medal he earned during the VietNam War but that did not technically merit meeting the criteria for the "V". Of course reading some of Hackworth's Bronze Star writeups they would only have merited a Navy Achievement Medal at best. Hackworth thinks that his fecal material doesn't stink and he believes his own press. Personally I think very little of him... "de gustabus non disputandum est" Beach
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hmmm, Thanks Beach. I will agree that believing in ones own hyperbole is a serious problem!
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Some of the stuff he has to say is interesting but he's his own PR guy. He's a bit "over the top" for me. Reminds me of that totally affected PUTZ, Gordon Liddy. Now THERE'S a real ego problem.

    Mudge the critic

    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • .280 freak.280 freak Member Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Beach -

    Minor point, I know, but ......

    Admiral Boorda shot himself in the chest, not in the head, in 1996.

    I remember that was the cause for some speculation among some conspiracy theorists (Vince Foster, Ron Brown, etc, rumor mills going full speed around that time). Some were saying that since most people committing suicide eat their gun rather than shooting themselves in the chest, perhaps there was something else going on, and his death was part of a cover-up.
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  • PelicanPelican Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm wonderful. No ego. Just fact. (I might be a bit biased)
    And cute too!

    The Almighty Himself Entrusted the Future of All Living Creatures to a Wooden Boat.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"Audemus jura nostra defendere"
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Beach--Exactly.

    I'm rather embarassed to say it but I do pick up Soldier of Fiction magazine on occasion just to read Hackworth's column. I swear, I buy it for the article.

    SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
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  • RockinURockinU Member Posts: 248 ✭
    edited November -1
    Ids, I think you looking at him, and being unable to picture him as spec ops was the whole idea. Six is supposed to be incognito, and has "modified grooming standards"
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Idsman.....Yeah..yeah.
    I'm sure you've heard the old saying......
    "You're talking to the troops here, son. You ain't writin' home."
    Mudge the monitor

    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    280:

    Hackworth and Yeager and Gritz and North and anyone else who will use his military rank as a civilian to line his pockets is beneath my comtempt. It is unseemly.

    Might just be a personal thing with me but 'Chief' went into the foot locker with the uniform.

    Clouder..
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Chief" may have gone into the footlocker with the uniform but those that retire still carry rank with (Ret.) after that rank. As a matter of fact, their retirement can be yanked if they commit crimes after they retire. My uncle, for example, has had two DUI's since he retired from the Navy and they were thinking about pulling his retirement check. I wish they would. He's a dirtball. When someone lists their retired rank on the cover of a book that they have written it is just as appropriate as a Doctor listing his or her title on any book they have written. It is a permanant title unless that title is pulled via other means.

    Hack speaks to the grunt. He speaks to the guy that is on the ground getting the job done. The words "Amen Brother" sprang towards my lips over and over again when I read "Hazardous Duty". He's not afraid to punk out the "perfumed princes" and he's very level-headed. Hack's work, along with the work of many others, has refined my attitude towards the job that I do. If he's done that for other people then so be it. Let him make a buck from his experience. The same can be said about Schwartzkopf and almost every President that we have had in my lifetime. They all crank out books or someone else cranks out books about them and they see royalties. There are countless military folk that have done so and I don't fault them for it. Nobody would buy the books or listen to their speeches if they didn't have anything valuable or desireable to impart. The military or political office did not make them what they are. They made greatness for themselves and that takes an exceptional individual with an exceptional drive. Most people that do great things in the militar and in political office would be doing great things elsewhere were it not for the military or politics. Since such greatness springs from the individual then I have no problem with the individual profiting from that greatness.

    SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
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  • BoyWonderBoyWonder Member Posts: 63 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you're interested in people who tell it like it is try James Webb, specifically Fields of Fire. He was a decorated Marine rifle platoon commander in Vietnam who went on the become Assistant Secretary of Defense and Secretary of the Navy (I think he resigned in protest, that kind of guy). He writes great historical fiction based on his experience, and it always amazes me that someone as clear headed and outspoken made it as far as he did in politics.
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    idsman
    "Nobody would buy the books or listen to their speeches if they didn't have anything valuable or desireable to impart." HILARY - ROSIE - OPRAH - AD NAUSEUM

    "The military or political office did not make them what they are." Precisely my point.

    You're a level-headed and dedicated man and I respect your position, I just disagree. I'm not saying they shouldn't, that's not my place. I'm saying I wouldn't do it, that's all.

    Clouder..
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Whiteclouder--Sadly enough, there are enough people in this world who think that Rosie O'Pig has something worthwhile to say. Sad Sad Sad.

    SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
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