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Stupid-Stupid-Stupid....

daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
edited May 2002 in General Discussion
Was out on the back deck the other day when I heard a shot from a rifle echo from the west. This isn't uncommon as we can shoot here legally. The next day I saw a neighbor working on his new truck and stopped to ask why a new truck was down. He was cleaning his rifle when it went off and put a hole in the radiator, the fan and the water pump.
I said nothing to him but, "how do you clean your guns with a round in it? YOU CAN"T! I know who will never go hunting or shooting with me!!!!

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  • GreenLanternGreenLantern Member Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can top that. A teacher in my old grade school was cleaning his rifle when it when off. Went through the wall and killed his wife in the next room. Coincidently, him and his wife were having marital problems and he had been having an affair with another teacher not too long before that. Hmmmm, makes you think. No charges were filed though.
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,353 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A family friend invited our family over for supper and an evening of pool. This was 30 + years ago and I learned a lesson that night I will never forget.

    The friend asked my father if he would like to see his new gun, a Colt Det. Special. I tagged along as the bug had already bit me hard by then. We headed upstairs and the friend took the DS from a lock box in his bedroom, opened it up, dumped the ammo into his hand, closed it, put the ammo into his pocket and handed the gun to my Dad. Dad looked it over and handed it back. The owner raised it up and pulled the trigger, on the third pull, it went BOOM. The slug stuck in his closet door and luckily no one was hurt.

    Turns out he had recently changed to the DS from a five shot S&W 36. When he emptied the gun, five fell into his hand and the 6th stuck for some reason. He eyed the five and as it seemed ok to him closed the action without looking.

    I never do anything with a gun without visually checking it first and sometimes checking it again...
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why is it that 80% of the time when you hear about ADs and accidental shootings the person responsible was cleaning the gun?
  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Many people have gotten hurt or killed by "Unloaded Guns."

    Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
    Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
    NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
  • SixStringerSixStringer Member Posts: 131 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I dont think the word unloaded should EVER be used next to the word gun. It should allways be treated as if it has a full magazine, regardless of how sure you are.
  • hunter280manhunter280man Member Posts: 705
    edited November -1
    Had a uncle who unloaded his and his sons deer rifles in the field. Came home and after supper told my cousin to clean the guns before bed. Bang! One dead hot water heater. They both swear the guns were unloaded but when the 30-30 was racked while warm another stuck round aparently chambered. No-one was hurt.

    Though I was born to royalty, I was snatched at birth, so treat me as the noble I am!!!
  • squeakycsqueakyc Member Posts: 204 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Several years ago during deer season some of the guys I hunted with decided to head out in the truck and check out some of the camps on a cold rainy afternoon.
    They were gone for a couple of hours and when they came back they seemed awful quiet. They finally fessed up that one of the shotguns standing up in the cab went off putting a round of buckshot through the roof taking out the interior light and leaving a large tear in the roof of the truck. The gun went off when the lad on the outside picked it up to sent in on the hump so there would be more foot room. The trigger caught on something causing the discharge. They were all lucky nobody was killed and learned a valuable lesson about not unloading a gun when carrying it in a vehicle. They never lived it down and it was the last year I hunted with those guys.
  • Ms. BeastMs. Beast Member Posts: 496 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One of my friends told me her Dad got some guns when his uncle died. Her dad was never a gun person, he decided to clean them and shot himself in the hand! The police came and were questioning how he could have done that......asked his wife all sorts of questions. They thought she had shot him!!
  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I only take one piece of valuable information from my military experience it will be the importance of counting the rounds that you load and fire. If they counted the rounds they loaded into that .30-30 and if they counted the rounds they fired, they may not have killed the water heater.

    SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
  • The LawThe Law Member Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullzeye...I mean Idsman75, Please! Just go away!!!

    "What we have here... is Failure to Communicate"
  • sodbustersodbuster Member Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When ya jump into another feller's pickup and you see a big hole down on the floorboard,,ya know down by the accelerator pedal??? It's best not to mention it,,,,,unless he says something 'bout it first.
    It's best not to say something like,,,"So,,,cock pheasant fly under yore pickup??

    "No dear, this isn't a new gun,,I've had this one for quite a long time,,honest,,"
  • mcneely77mcneely77 Member Posts: 411 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree with Idsman, "No Brass, No Ammo Drill Sergeant!"
    I had a friend unloading a lever action 30-30 on the back of his tailgate when it went off and sent a round through the side of the bed and into his camper coming to rest in the stove door. Scary!! Lets say the rest of deer camp was kind of cloudy.

    Do not mistake my kindness for weakness.

    IALEFI, ASLET, NRA, and proud owner of a pair of S&W revolvers.
  • austin247austin247 Member Posts: 375
    edited November -1
    A buddy of mine in west Texas was cleaning his Glock one day when he had an HUA moment. He racked the round out of the chamber, THEN dropped the magazine. Of course, when he racked the slide the chambered round ejected but the next round in the mag chambered. Then apparently he pulled the trigger so he could field strip the gun for cleaning. He put a nice big hole in the screen and picture tube of his new 27" TV.
  • ysacresysacres Member Posts: 294 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My story go's Buddy and I cleaning our rifles in the living room. His 270 go's off after a round gets the hinged floorplate stuck then release's after he runs the bolt....Er HUH WHADA SAY, CANT HERE YA.
    The bullet lodged upstairs in my son's closet shelf.

    Fire in the hole
  • wipalawipala Member Posts: 11,067
    edited November -1
    I've got 3 stories about accidental discharges. Two involve LEO's
    Tulsa gun show about 4 years ago a TPD Corporal brings ina bag of small cheap handguns to have a friend of his sell for him (Didn't ask or want to know where he got them.) They were taking them out of the bag checking them and he racks back the slide on a Davis 380 while pointing it at the ground lets it go forward and pulls the trigger . You guessed it he'd just chambered a round out of the loaded mag. Down through the table to the concrete up at an angle through the table of my buddy and smacks into the wall above the chair he was sitting in. If he'd been standing it would have been in his head. Nothing was done to either of these guys. (The other was TPD's range master)
    2nd story
    12-13 years ago my county SO had a dispatcher . She had a brand new 38 snubbie she was trying to break in. She had it out dry firing it while she was working. She was getting ready for shift change and loadedit up and set it down on her desk. Was in the middle of the hourly radio check when she absent mindedly picked it up pointed it at the base unit and pulled the trigger. The last sound coming over the radio was a gunshot before total the radio shorted out and total silence. Needless to say everyofficer on duty and anybody with ascanner converged on the courthouse.
    3rd story
    A guy who was going through CLEET with me was moonlighting as a security guard for a marina. They had a real big mirror in the office and he was goofing around playing quikdraw and shot the mirror and the 75,000 dollar boat on the other side of the wall

    Remember here at DeeDee"s If we can't kill it, it's immortal
    D.D.Snavely
  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Quite a few people shot with their new Glocks by putting it in the factory case and pushing it down over the post, thereby pulling the trigger and firing the round they didn't know was in the chamber. I bought my model 17 in 1989 and a few months later got an envelope from Glock with a written warning and a bunch of warning stickers to paste all over the case.

    Ya gotta be awful damn careless, or dumb, to shoot yourself with your own gun.

    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,353 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A distant cousin's husband was an LEO in a small town in Illinois. He shot himself while cleaning his gun and died. It was ruled an accident but I have always wondered.
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I was working at a video store I met a guy who killed his best friend with an "unloaded" M1 Carbine. He said him and his buddies had dry fired it about two or three time, and then he was messing around pointed it at his buddies head and pulled the trigger. Apparently the gun was in need of some work. A cartridge was stuck in the chamber but didn't extract when the bolt was pulled back, and didn't go off the first few times the firing pin hit it.

    All because no one checked the chamber.

    Rule #1 All guns are ALWAYS loaded.

    I just wish I had a dollar for every gun I wanted, then I'd be a rich man.
  • boucherboucher Member Posts: 49 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Was at the gunshow this weekend when a guy came to the table I was at and gave the dealer a pistol. The dealer racked the slide and a round ejects. How does that happen?
  • denniswdennisw Member Posts: 104 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Item in local paper couple of weeks back about GI watching local airport, checked weapon and it discharged. County wanted to know who would pay for broken tiles.
    dennis
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Years back a friend of mine died from a gunshot to the back of the head. The other guy was "cleaning?" a (BOLT) action 22 rifle. There is a lot about this story that I won't post here, it still brings back bad memories. The police ruled it an accident??? To this day I have trouble with the ACCIDENT part, when he was shot TWICE.

    If I knew then, what I know now.
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "STUPID" is the ONLY word. What is so @#$%^&*() difficult about the "Ten Commandments" of firearm safety we taught at Hunter Safety all these many years?! "Treat every firearm as though it is loaded." I can understand a slamfire in an AK or something of that nature occuring at a range, but anyone so stupid as to do the things discussed here should not be allowed near a firearm. I remember watching my son at age six ask to look at a bolt action a friend was holding . . . friend made sure it was empty before handing it over, I made sure it was empty . . . and the first thing my six year old did was check the magazine and chamber, with his finger well away from the trigger and muzzle pointed down range. Sorry, if a kid can understand it, there's absolutely no excuse for these 'adults.' And what really infuriates me is not only that these walking flatworms endanger those around them, they give a bad name to the rest of us and great publicity - for free - to the forces of opression.
  • instrumentofwarinstrumentofwar Member Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Limpwrist....i mean law
    quote: Please! Just go away!!!

    Some people just shouldn't be allowed to breed
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Ya gotta be awful damn careless, or dumb, to shoot yourself with your own gun."

    Not much else to say Lowrider, that pretty well covers it!
  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Law-dog--I am not and have never been "Bullzeye". I have references that can attest to that on this board but I won't drop names.

    SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is not an AD story, it's DUM SUMB--CH story. Guy is out in a field sighting-in his blackpowder rifle. He's using a hay bale as his "backstop" to hang his target. About half a mile beyond his hay bale are houses. I politely go over and say to his wife: "There are houses down there that might be getting hit." She answers, (and I'll take an oath):"It's OK. He's an NRA Life Member." I told her that "Life Member or not, if he fires another shot I'm calling the law." No more shooting.

    Mudge the speechless

    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!

    Edited by - mudge on 05/09/2002 16:10:48
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