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Winchester 100's, not a bad design
Red223
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I picked up a first year (1961) Winchester 100 Semi-automatic in .308 for a song at the gun shop as you all may remember recently.
I don't know why I had to have it, never heard of them before and it was like it was asking me to pick it up off of that used beat up gun rack.
Well I tore it down to refinish the wood and inspect the inards and found what a simplistic heavy duty semi-auto this rifle really is.
It has an internal gas-piston design, and it appeared that in it's 43 years of life that no one ever cleaned it. All the carbon came off easily (as the gas piston is chromed) and the receiver and bolt have absolutely no significant wear, the blueing is still solid.
I was informed that Winchester had a recall on these for the firing pins and called the number with my serial number and this ole rifle still has her original firing pin.
I thought to myself why would they have a recall on this rifle for a firing pin when this one has been used very,very well from the condition of the wood and carbon built up in it for the past 43 years. Then I removed the bolt assembly and figured out that the firing pin can in no way be moved forward without the lugs locked into the barrel, that's just how they designed it mechanically.
Then I inspected the trigger group and whoooa what is this big piece in the back sticking up, why it's the piece that stops the hammer while the trigger is still depressed and prevents full-auto. If this piece were removed the hammer would hit the firing pin on the return stroke thus forcing the lugs to lock and when the lugs locked allow the pin to engage the primer, repeating those steps until the trigger was released or the ammo was dispensed.
So my .02 cents on this rifle is that the recall is still ongoing not due to a material flaw, but a design flaw that could allow someone to have a machine gun due to the design of the bolt-carrier and firing pin. (ATF Mandated?)
Winchester won't just sell the other firing pin, they have to have the old one turned in. Plus they won't pay for shipping of the rifle to them, which is kind of backing up my theory.
If it was a serious safety issue where they could be held liable you would think they would pay for immediate shipping to them.
Just my .02 cents on the old Winchester 100's. This one isn't going back to Winchester or Nuline Guns for the refurb, she's staying original and in the gun safe. I rifle with a story, that I'm not sure anyone will ever hear the whole truth about.
I don't know why I had to have it, never heard of them before and it was like it was asking me to pick it up off of that used beat up gun rack.
Well I tore it down to refinish the wood and inspect the inards and found what a simplistic heavy duty semi-auto this rifle really is.
It has an internal gas-piston design, and it appeared that in it's 43 years of life that no one ever cleaned it. All the carbon came off easily (as the gas piston is chromed) and the receiver and bolt have absolutely no significant wear, the blueing is still solid.
I was informed that Winchester had a recall on these for the firing pins and called the number with my serial number and this ole rifle still has her original firing pin.
I thought to myself why would they have a recall on this rifle for a firing pin when this one has been used very,very well from the condition of the wood and carbon built up in it for the past 43 years. Then I removed the bolt assembly and figured out that the firing pin can in no way be moved forward without the lugs locked into the barrel, that's just how they designed it mechanically.
Then I inspected the trigger group and whoooa what is this big piece in the back sticking up, why it's the piece that stops the hammer while the trigger is still depressed and prevents full-auto. If this piece were removed the hammer would hit the firing pin on the return stroke thus forcing the lugs to lock and when the lugs locked allow the pin to engage the primer, repeating those steps until the trigger was released or the ammo was dispensed.
So my .02 cents on this rifle is that the recall is still ongoing not due to a material flaw, but a design flaw that could allow someone to have a machine gun due to the design of the bolt-carrier and firing pin. (ATF Mandated?)
Winchester won't just sell the other firing pin, they have to have the old one turned in. Plus they won't pay for shipping of the rifle to them, which is kind of backing up my theory.
If it was a serious safety issue where they could be held liable you would think they would pay for immediate shipping to them.
Just my .02 cents on the old Winchester 100's. This one isn't going back to Winchester or Nuline Guns for the refurb, she's staying original and in the gun safe. I rifle with a story, that I'm not sure anyone will ever hear the whole truth about.
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