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Reloading question.

daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
edited June 2002 in General Discussion
Is anyone aware of a tool that can be used to check the Pounds and ounces it takes to move a bullet which is set in the case and how to use that info. in relation to the recoil of a tube mag. rifle (such as the 30-30) to asure a safely constructed round?
How would you determain the pound of recoil on a said rifle (in general)?

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  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    I am interested n reloading several different calibers that I fire all the time. My questions is this for those that reload. What calibers are worth reloading VS buying new (pistol and rifle)? Where is a good place to get information and supplies for a newbe? Any information would be great. Just to know my primary calibers are as follows: 9mm, 40S&W, 45AP, 38/357mag, 223, 308, 30-06, Brit 303. Thanks
  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    daddo, Have never heard of such a tool!! But since nobody else replied I figured I'd add my opinion. You know what opinions are like. Everybody's got one!! How could you design a tubular magazine that would not be subject to wear and stress that could weaken the springs that hold the ammo assuring that the ammo would not move forward in the magazine and strike the next primer? That's why they always use flat pointed bullets in factory loads. If you want to shoot spitzers in a 30-30 you're going to have to build yourself a gun without the tube. GHD
  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Daddo, If you can send me the weight of the gun, Muzzle velocty, Powder charge, And bullet weight, I can give you actual recol, And felt recoil.

    The most important things, Are not things.
  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    Grounghog- sorry, I quess my question may be confusing. I know you cannot safely use any roundnose bullet in a tube feeder,(unless you fire one at a time) but was concerned that if the flatnose was not tight in the neck, the recoil could seat the bullet back during firing, thus causing a dangerous round due to the change in OAL. I was just wondering if there was a good way to test each round to assure the bullet holding crimp is satisfactory.
    For example "varmit"- A 30-30 @7.5 lbs, 150 grain bullet, 30 grns 4820, and velocity of 2030 fps.
    Thanks!
  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    quote:I was just wondering if there was a good way to test each round to assure the bullet holding crimp is satisfactory.

    Yes there is. Place the end of the cartridge (bullet end) against a hard surface (the side of the loading bench works good) and press on the case as hard as you can. If there is ANY movement, your crimp is not adequate. This has always worked for me both for tube fed rifles and HOT revolver loads.

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  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Daddo, Your recoil is 7.6 ft lbs. Considerd Mild.

    The most important things, Are not things.
  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    Thanks both-- I will try the push test with a scale to satisfy my curious nature.
    Planning on 8.5 lbs min. would be good.
    "varmit"- gotta have your recipe for this.
  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The info comes from W.W.Blackwell, Load from a disk. You can get info at http://www.loadammo.com .This program is so fast, It unbeleveble. It will give you a click chart in less than a second.It has saved me so much in testing. It paid for its self in one month. you can change the load by 1 grain, And it will redoo all the info in one second.

    The most important things, Are not things.
  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    Thanks-it's in the mail!
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