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Al Franken----- "Air America"

FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
edited April 2004 in General Discussion
Anyone check out his radio show? Wonder if it will fly. He is currently only on 4 AM stations.

Franken will be the lead personality on Air America Radio, a startup venture promising a liberal alternative to powerhouse radio talk show pundits like Rush Limbaugh.

The backers of Air America announced their programming lineup Wednesday and said they planned to launch the network March 31 in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago and San Francisco.

Franken and fellow comedian Janeane Garofalo will have co-hosts for their live three-hour shows. Other shows will be hosted by Randi Rhodes, a radio personality from southern Florida, and Lizz Winstead, a co-creator of "The Daily Show" on Comedy Central.

"We're not ceding this territory anymore," Franken said during a conference call with reporters. "To their credit, the right wing has captured radio. We're going after them, and we're going after them hard."

Franken, in a swipe at Fox News host Bill O'Reilly, plans to call his midday show "The O'Franken Factor."

"Bill, I want you to sue us," Franken said, referring to a case last year in which a judge threw out Fox's request to ban Franken from using the slogan "Fair and Balanced" on the cover of his book, "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right." The ruling turned into a bonanza of publicity for Franken. (Full story) (Judge's ruling)

Another lawsuit seems unlikely. Asked to respond to Franken's remarks, Fox News spokesman Robert Zimmerman said, "All forms of free speech are welcomed in this country. We wish them well."

Mark Walsh, the CEO of Progress Media Inc., the company backing the network, said they have yet to sign any firm deals with advertisers but that several nonprofit organizations and progressive groups have promised to advertise.

Walsh said the company hoped to raise "upward of $30 million" by the time the network goes live, which would allow them to operate for about two years before turning a profit. He declined to say how much they had raised so far.

Franken has signed a one-year contract with the network.

Robert Unmacht of In3 Partners, a media consulting firm in Nashville, Tennessee, said Air America is starting out with a weak array of stations.

"They've been far more interested in the thought of creating the network than in the actual business end of it," Unmacht said.

Walsh said although the network is starting small, it is positioned in key markets. "We don't expect to get giant numbers right away. This is one brick at a time."






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    22WRF22WRF Member Posts: 3,385
    edited November -1
    Al Franken
    "Air America"

    Hummm I guess thats not the same "Air America" I'm familier with.

    When I seen the topic I thought he was going to Laos.
    Well wishful thinking anyway




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    deputydondeputydon Member Posts: 706 ✭✭✭✭
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    Does this mean liberals are a bunch of comedians????[}:)]



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    925925 Member Posts: 441 ✭✭✭
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    I don't get it, the liberals have had FM/NPR for many years.
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    FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am just curious how his spin will go. Most of the hard left talk show guys here are on at midnite while I am in blissfull slumber. [:D]

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    Rebel_JamesRebel_James Member Posts: 4,746
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    The only way they'll make it work will be to get Jessie and his Rainbow Coalition to extort large corporations to advertise on their show.

    Any show, on TV or Radio, only survives with ad money. If the advertisors aren't making money from people listening and/or watching, the show is canceled.

    I wouldn't bet on them lasting 90 days, except this is an election year and they may last till November.



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    FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rebel_James take a second Look at the target stations (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago and San Francisco) all coinside with the toughest
    gun control. (Not sure about Chicago)

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    tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    Let them broadcast their left-wing, liberal socialist views. It might just sicken many middle of the road Americans to actually find out in detail just where these social engineers would take us.

    Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
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    FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    Let them broadcast their left-wing, liberal socialist views. It might just sicken many middle of the road Americans to actually find out in detail just where these social engineers would take us.

    Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"



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    JgreenJgreen Member Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'll bet that the programs will spread. I don't know where you all get this "liberal media" crap from. Rush Limbaugh is on every damn station in America, spouting his ignorant or doped-up drivel.

    BTW, here's a quick Rush Limbaugh Primer:

    1. Rush gets high.
    2. Rush, while high, comes up with somthing like "a homeless man disappeared in DC when Clinton was in office....Clinton must be a cannibal!
    3. Rush keeps saying so, without any facts to back him up.
    4. Someone else says they heard Rush say so.
    5. This rumor spreads all over.
    6. Finally, someone addresses the rumor by denying it, meaning that it is picked up by mainstream media.
    7. Rush gets high
    8. Rush says "gee, Clinton got fat in the White House...."
    9. Eventually, the rumor dies out.
    10. On a slow news day, Rush says "Clinton lost a lot of weight when he was out of Office....I guess its hard to be a cannibal when you don't have the Secret service to cover for you"
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    TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Now all the MSNBC viewers have a radio station.
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    offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The media at large has been liberal since at least the Viet Nam war. It's only in the last decade that we've seen the rise of conservatives in talk radio -- a refreshing offset to all the liberal bias in newspapers, FM radio, and both public and commercial television. They've been demonizing patriots, capitalists, and corporations for decades whether they deserved criticism or not. In Hollywood, people like John Milius who directed RED DAWN are interesting because they are so rare. Usually you get scripts that champion gun control and confiscation (AMERICAN PRESIDENT, RUNAWAY JURY) and saving the whales (STAR TREK: THE VOYAGE HOME) and bleeding hearts on every subject. And at the same time you get these weird schizo heroes in films, from Billy Jack to Steven Seagal, who "are for peace" but spend the whole movie kicking butt and firing military hardware.

    One-year contracts are not exactly a big vote of confidence for "Air America" (a REALLY backward choice of title given that CIA black ops have traditionally been handled through Air America and the AID). I'll bet Janeane only got a year deal as well. Her show title is a lie too: "The Majority Report." Uh-huh. She's the one who predicted 500,000 dead in the Iraq action.

    The liberals, in case you didn't recognize the phenomenon all these years, are all those media writers and reporters who generally hate the "establishment" and are usually criticizing whatever the U.S. is doing at home or abroad -- especially the military. They are the ones who are never happy with the state of things and are constantly in need of world-changing "reforms" about this or that in order to find happiness. They don't like a strong, firm foreign policy about anything, nor any retribution for sins against U.S. citizens or allies -- Kerry is perfect for 'em, because he wants to talk rather than act, and cuddle with the U.N. and "our European friends" rather than be respected sufficiently to discourage would-be attackers.

    As I've said before, every time the U.S. looks anything but strong globally, somebody in the world tries to pull something -- because they assume we're weak (and decadent). Liberal writers in the media thought Reagan was nutty for his Star Wars plans and his "tear-down-the-wall" speech -- until the Soviet Union fell apart, a lot of little countries got their independence back, and the wall came down in Berlin. Even John Kennedy would have been impressed with THAT.

    I don't think the American people want to hear Air America make fun of America all day long. I don't think they want to hear people on a soapbox disrespecting what we do in the world. I think they'll take it personally, and come to regard it as the equivalent of protests and flag burning. I think the liberals will irritate and bore people. I doubt these people will have the sense to do the one smart, entertaining thing they could do -- which is make fun of themselves and their own radicals' excesses. Heck, they'll probably give PETA a show.

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    FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Jgreen-

    quote:I don't know where you all get this "liberal media" crap from

    From the media it self! [:D] Funny how it goes around- I am a Rep. Just taking obersavation that the Liberal Dem.'s got there own radio shows now on prime time in major anti-gun citys. nothing more-[:)]

    Nothing implied or suggested ok a little. [:D] this has been in the works for a few months, the radio show that is.

    I just did not think they could pull it off.

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    FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    Night StalkerNight Stalker Member Posts: 11,967
    edited November -1
    "Air America"? Oh, I thought you said "Error America" was the new Liberal Platform. My fault, I misunderstood you.

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    chunkstylechunkstyle Member Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by FrancF
    Rebel_James take a second Look at the target stations (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago and San Francisco) all coinside with the toughest
    gun control. (Not sure about Chicago)


    Chicago's is pretty tough.

    There were actually 2 other markets broadcasting, here (Minneapolis) and Portland, OR. It's also heard on some satellite radio station, and is streamed on the internet.

    http://www.airamericaradio.com

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    96harley96harley Member Posts: 3,992 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What's that saying? Imitation is the greatest form of flattery?
    Anyway it's just another piece of junk on the airways I won't be tuned in to. My pal Rush should be grinning from ear to ear. Now he really has target rich enviornment.

    Jgreen, are you a liberal?

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    JgreenJgreen Member Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rush will be grinning from ear to ear if he's had his oxycontin fix!

    Am I a "liberal"? Well, the problem is that on certain things, I am liberal, and other issues, I'm conservative.
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    chunkstylechunkstyle Member Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Jgreen
    Am I a "liberal"? Well, the problem is that on certain things, I am liberal, and other issues, I'm conservative.


    Good. To me, this says that you can think for yourself. You aren't either a "ditto-head" or a Marxist.

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    And say that in obedience to their laws, here we lie"
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    fishermanbenfishermanben Member Posts: 15,370
    edited November -1
    This show is being produced by the same producers that give us The Daily Show. More Liberal lies disguised as humor is on the way to pollute the weakminded in our country.[V]
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    NickCWinterNickCWinter Member Posts: 2,927
    edited November -1
    Good observation, fishermanben. Al Franken, now there's an image to conjure with, like my bullet-riddled Usama Bin Laden target. But let Al speak. That's what the First Amendment is all about.
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    greeker375greeker375 Member Posts: 3,644
    edited November -1
    Yea 1st Amendment! I may not agree with what you say, but, I will defend to the death your right to say it.

    BTW, that means I also don't have to listen as well![:p]

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    sharkman69sharkman69 Member Posts: 856 ✭✭✭✭
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    quote: I don't know where you all get this "liberal media" crap from.



    Hmmm, let's start with the networks news media, like Peter Jennings, Tom Brokaw, and Dan Rather. Then go to Cable, with CNN. Then to the print media, such as the New York Times, Time, Newsweek, and others. Then look at polls taken that showed in the 1996 presidential election, 88% of the Washington news media voted for Bill Clinton, who only got 49% of the popular vote by the rest of the country that year. You want more? When was the last time you saw an NRA ad on network TV? Haha, trick question. The major TV networks won't run ads by the NRA.

    It's these, and many more examples, that create the term liberal news media.
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    hissinggoosehissinggoose Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Air Head" would probably make a more apt title to the show![:D] Amen to fishermanben and tr fox! Sad to think there are that many deluded/mush-brained people out there. Wish there were an intelligence test you had to pass to be allowed to vote!![:p]
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    NickCWinterNickCWinter Member Posts: 2,927
    edited November -1
    I was never a Franken fan, even before he took on the mantle of liberal spokesboy. He was part of the Saturday Night Live writing team, making ocasional appearances in the team of Franken and (?) Davis. Their "humor" was not. It bordered on the grotesque and sometimes entered the insane. More recently, Al got into a public dispute with Bill O'Reilly. Al was self-righteously sarcastic and, yes boys and girls, pusilanimous. Now he's a visible leading voice for the misled, still sarcastic, still not funny. Or credible.
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    JgreenJgreen Member Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sharkman - What you said translates into "the liberal media is the liberal media because it is the liberal media". The one factoid you put there, if accurate, could reflect a lot of different things, for example, the personal preference of the persons who make up this "washington news media". You are saying that their personal preference equates to an automatic bias in coverage. Sorry, but I don't buy it.
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    96harley96harley Member Posts: 3,992 ✭✭
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    Sharkman
    With some, Clinton is a sacred cow and you must tread lightly. I do argee with you regarding the liberal media. They have a way of lying and hiding facts while making it convincing. Clinton and his bunch got by with murder thanks to the liberal media.

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    fishermanbenfishermanben Member Posts: 15,370
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by NickCWinter
    pusilanimous.

    Nick, keep it to 3 or 4 syllables, please. [;)]
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    The firearms consultantThe firearms consultant Member Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Offeror, Thank You!
    Jgreen, ???????????

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    The firearms consultantThe firearms consultant Member Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    FrancF, Thanks for starting this thread.

    California Citizen,
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    mag44pistolmag44pistol Member Posts: 229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you to myself as a vetran and to all the vetrans on this forum that have given to us to be able not to turn on the radio and listen to this crap, im not and will not add to there crap, we as americans and vetrans its time we take back what the liberals have given up, ignore them and take way there voice (there voice is you )and they have no ground and after a while they will disapear from our politics our freedoms and our lives. don`t give to them no more?

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    offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
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    TIME Magazine came out with a public editorial policy some years ago stating that "gun control was too important for them to take an unbiased position," so they announced they were, from that time forward, actively in support of gun control, and they started running numerous anti-gun articles. I haven't bought TIME since. ABC decided to do a major television special on the "issue" of guns and Peter Jennings and Roone Arledge invited TIME Magazine and the Brady bunch to partner with ABC on it. I would hardly call that keeping their personal bias to themselves.

    Jennings flaunted his ignorance of guns on the show by attempting to demonstrate the scary "click-clatch" sound of a Rem 870 -- that he obviously had already cocked. He struggled with the pump action for a bit -- it wouldn't budge -- and then gave up. It was a live show, I think, and he was stuck looking foolish.

    If you write letters to the editors of media like the New York Times or any of the other liberal "organs" mentioned, and have the luck to be published, your little letter will be competing for attention with large editorials by the Times' own editors -- which uniformly reflect a liberal bias on any and every subject.

    Even if you live in a community with a Republican majority, you often will find journalists being hired who, regardless of their intentions, are well-versed in liberal thinking and ignorant about Republican points of view -- a situation which inevitably colors their reporting. I stopped taking the morning paper here in conservative Fort Wayne years ago because I got tired of being insulted every day by Democrats. Their headlines, their editorials, the stories they chose to cover and the emphasis placed on them added up to liberal bias, shot through the fabric of the paper, that was as unpleasant as a bad case of mildew. Luckily, here we have an evening paper which is normally Republican in perspective. But recently they considered publishing the names and addresses of every gun permit holder on their web site. Fortunately, they came to their senses after being deluged with letters and e-mails denouncing them for it.

    It is a minority of communities that has Republican media to offset the bias of their liberal business-as-usual journalists' output. And that is the main problem -- the majority of journalists, for whatever reason, have a liberal bias that can't help but affect their choice of subject matter and their writing about things. The reason why the rise of conservative talk shows has been such a big story is BECAUSE liberal bias in media has been a well known fact for decades. That's the story, based on the data. Liberal media bias in this country has not been considered a matter of opinion, even in the media. The success of conservative radio talk is a phenomenon, and a news story.



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