Mexico: Armed Incursion By A Foreign Government

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Mexico: Armed Incursion By A Foreign Government
By Michael Gaddy
Published 05. 15. 02 at 8:48 Sierra Time

An armed incursion by the Government of Mexico has taken place on American soil. Recently a group of Mexican military with both vehicle mounted and hand carried automatic weapons crossed some 60 miles of American territory to bivouac in the area of San Pedro, Arizona. San Pedro lies within the boundaries of the Tohono O'odham Indian reservation approximately 35 miles west of Tucson, Arizona.
The children of the village of San Pedro first spotted elements of this force early on a Thursday evening. Later that night the force moved into San Pedro brandishing their automatic weapons and wearing night vision equipment. The force appeared to be searching for someone but no one in the village could comprehend who they were looking for. It is quite possible even if they understood who they were looking for, the villagers would not have revealed their presence.

The armed forces spoke only Spanish and admonished the villagers they would be sorry if they called the "authorities." Several calls were made to the Tohono O'odham Police despite the threats, but officers did not arrive until Saturday. When they arrived the villagers told the police where the force was bivouacked in the desert but the police only drove around the village and left.

On Sunday repeated calls were made to the local police and the U.S. Border Patrol when the force traveled 6 miles south to a convenience store called the "Coyote Store" on highway 86 between Tucson and Sells, Arizona. A tense situation developed when the police arrived. The Mexican force brandishing their automatic weapons and the Police appeared poised for what one O'odham youth called a "shoot-out situation." Cooler heads prevailed and the Mexican forces departed. Villagers were told not to worry, the Mexican soldiers had only been on a "hunting trip."

Details of this event have been corroborated by at least eight members of the village of San Pedro.

A Monday article at Worldnetdaily.com confirms at least 23 such incursions were made into the United States by Mexican Police or Military groups in 2001.

http://www.sierratimes.com/02/05/15/armg051502.htm





"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878

RancheroPaul

It appears to me these folks need to be reminded that when a mouse is found crawling up an elephant's leg with Rape on its mind, it's entirely possible the elephant will shake its leg and anything that falls on the ground may be stepped on! Seems to be a few U.S. Troops might ought to have a few "maneuvers" around that area!

If You Can't Buy a Pair, Get a Spare!

Alpine

This has happened many more time than this! In San Diego, in the back country, a resident called DEA complaining about the smell of either comming from a building acorss the fence, in Mexico. The very next day, two vehicles full of Mexican regular soldiers, came into the US, with automatic weapons, came looking and asking for, by name, the caller. He called his buddies in the Border Patrol. BP came and disarmed the soldiers, and escorted back to the border. He has pictures, I have seen them. The media was not interested in reporting the story. DEA was silent on how regular Mexican army knew the name of the caller. Next night, in darkness, regular Mexican army moved several trucks worth of equipment out of building.

idsman75

This is the typical reaction of Reservation cops.

SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY

Iconoclast

Hmmm, perhaps we need some cluster bomb practice closer to home than Khost?

Anyone hear about the lawsuit filed because USFWS didn't have watering stations out in the desert which might have prevented the death of some illegals sneaking over the border? Screw that, charge the families for the cost of dragging the stinking remains off our land!!!

Lowrider

Well, since we've been unwilling, or unable, to stop the flood of UNARMED illegals, it's only logical that the ARMED illegals would follow. God help us when some REAL enemy soldiers show up on our shores or borders. I'm worried that this country is fast losing our teeth.

Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.

thesoundguy1

These ARE REAL enemy soldiers!!!These soldiers are obviously working
for drug traffickers,aided by a corrupt group of DEA agents.We can
only speculate how deep the corruption runs in both governments,and
I'm quite shocked(and suspicious),that the press has shown no more interest in this story than they have.I wonder what the response
would have been if shots had been fired, blood had been spilled.

Mercury

Odd. I LIVE in Tucson, and haven't heard anything about this......

Yes, the rez cops are worthless.

Merc


NO! You may not have my guns! Now go crawl back into your hole!

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leeblackman

Wow, I hope they pop their head around hear, I'd like to get hold of some of there gear myself. I just wouldn't know what I'd do with the bodies...

If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

Bubba Joel

I read this and got so outraged. I posted this on another board and people just seem to accept it, better than I did....

The question I posed was. What if they showed up in your yard or on your land? If you fire upon them, is that an act of war? Illegals coming over, I can see that being harder to stop, but a military unit, if you can call them that,...

http://www.tmorg-forums.com/

steve45

Dont believe everything you read. World Net Dailey is a rag who sells its papers with stories like this in them to fire you up, so you buy more papers. I dont doubt that Mexican cops have crossed the border, but a vehicle equipped army would easily have been spotted. By the way there are no "villages" full of peasants in AZ. All of our towns are loaded with American retired persons, and they would have called. The border has sensors installed and is patrolled by helicopter. Will tell you a hunting story about this later.

Alpine

Steve: My story is true. I talked to the person involved, I saw the pictures of the Mexican regular army (in full uniform with helmets)in front of his house, I saw the pictures of the automatic weapons on the picnic table outside of his house, talked to the BP guys that were there.
If you choose to disbelieve then you are only fooling yourself. True incident, not BS.

thesoundguy1

Fox News Channel has touched on the incursion we are speaking of.The
story is,that our border with Mexico is not very well defined in some places,and this military unit "was lost".This according to our government officials,as reported by FNC.But,there has been no follow-up.

sodbuster

Is it true that our border agents had to turn in their select fire M-16s to convert them to semi-auto only?? This was to have the personnel carry more of a " shooting at illegal aliens crossing the border" politically correct weapon.?!?

"No dear, this isn't a new gun,,I've had this one for quite a long time,,honest,,"

steve45

Alpine, not saying your story isnt true, Anything can happen when your within a mile of the border. But armed vehicles 60 miles in is different. That area is full of hunters, hikers, campers, ranchers, retired persons, etc, etc, etc and now everybody has a cell phone. Twenty years ago you could be in this area and be alone. Those days are unfortunetly long gone. Not to mention what the Us Gov has on the borders. I have to go but will type in a hunting story tomorrow thats pretty cool.

leeblackman

Hey, I'd like to go hunting around the border, there any info I can get on that, and what kind of game ya find. I'd really just like a place I can hike around and hunt. I get tired of staying in a stationary tree stand all the time, I'd like to have a hiking/camping/hunting trip somewhere.

If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

steve45

Leeblackman, Az game and Fish is on the web. You can even apply on-line now. Hunting Story, A friend of mine was helping another friend of his during a Bighorn sheep hunt at the border. His friend noticed that a knoll a short distance into Mexico would be a perfect place to set up his spotting scope to look back on hills in the U.S. My friend refused to go into Mexico so he stayed put with the two Quads. Twenty minutes later a U.S. helicopter appears and hovers over the two quads. He then follows almost the same path that the hunter took into Mexico towards the knoll. Hunter hears helicopter and finds a ledge to crawl under where he cant be seen from above. Helicopter at very low level hovers directly over the hunter for a few minutes then flys away. Hunters at the end of the day pack quads on trailer and head to local resturant for dinner. As they are leaving they are met near the quads by Border Patrol officer. Officer more in fun, maybe as a warning, tells them exactly what they did. "You stayed with the quads" and "you walked into Mexico towards that knoll". Hunters admit nothing. Border Patrol agent says he could see thermal image and knew hunter was under ledge when they were hovering over him. Also said he wasnt the first hunter to cross the border. He told them there are five different sensors at the border. Infrared, seismic,that can hear footsteps, motion, etc. That was it. Hunter did get his Bighorn in another area. I'll note that this was after 9-11 and there have been news stories about terrorists crossing the Mexican border to enter the U.S. Maybe thats why two quads deserved a helicopter visit.

Alpine

The BP does use all those sensors. The BP always asks permission, around here, to place sensors on private property. Most land owners are glad to have the BP around, and the sensors. And some of the agents are extremly good at tracking.