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Gee, I ALWAYS get a ticket when doing 95 in a 70.

bigtirebigtire Member Posts: 24,800
edited September 2005 in General Discussion
Passaic Sheriff: I Was Hassled By The Man



Sep 29, 2005 7:20 pm US/Eastern
(STAUNTON, Va.) A sheriff in Virginia's Shenandoah Valley defended his deputy's decision to halt what he described as a speeding and reckless convoy of New Jersey law enforcement officers heading home after Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.

The Sept. 18 stop on Interstate 81 prompted a blistering attack by a New Jersey sheriff for the ``grief'' his officers received.

Augusta County Sheriff Randall D. Fisher said one of his deputies pulled over the convoy of 12 or more emergency vehicles from the Passaic County Sheriff's Office after state police received complaints from other motorists about their driving.

State police on Thursday also confirmed the complaints from motorists along the winding, hilly stretch of Interstate 81.

``They were traveling at a high rate of speed, people were being run off the road,'' Fisher said Thursday. ``He (his deputy) was basically asking the guys to cut their (emergency lights), slow down.''

While the stop initially was adversarial, and some members of the convoy did not heed the deputy's order to pull over, Fisher said the New Jersey officers left amid handshakes and back slaps with his deputy.

``We pretty much thought it was the end of the story,'' Fisher said.

But the same day, the Passaic County sheriff, Jerry Speziale, made a searing telephone call to the Augusta County Sheriff's Office and criticized the deputy's actions. He also has publicly slammed the Virginia sheriff's department for harassing his Katrina-weary officers.

``It's a disgrace,'' Speziale said in the telephone call, which Fisher played for The Associated Press. ``If you think that that's not a disgrace, you should take the badge off your shirt and throw it in the garbage.''

He said in an interview with The Star Ledger of Newark, N.J., ``We had just responded to the greatest natural disaster in the nation's history. How about giving fellow officers an escort and courtesy instead of some grief?''

Fisher said the deputy did extend the professional courtesy of not ticketing the officers even though they had been traveling at speeds of up to 95 mph and, he said, forcing motorists out of the passing lane.

He also said he could understand the officers' haste.

``I'm not defending anyone's actions, but I'm sure they were anxious to get home,'' Fisher said.

http://1010wins.com/topstories/local_story_272111533.html




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    fishermanbenfishermanben Member Posts: 15,370
    edited November -1
    If they were "weary travelers" then it would be alot more appropriate to pull over and take a nap than to proceed at 95mph.[}:)]

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    Da-TankDa-Tank Member Posts: 4,074
    edited November -1
    Because they are law ENFORCEMENT officers they do not have to obey the law???? Was going home a emergency???? Why the red lights?? Why the excess speed??? And one last thing, You can bet you would have gotten a big time ticket.!!!!

    Of course I'm out of my mind. It's dark and scary in there.
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    hsracer201hsracer201 Member Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i'm only 25 miles from interstate 81 and the local public around here has been spreading this story like wildfire. i don't agree with what they did, i think it was dangerous to other drivers.

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    WranglerWrangler Member Posts: 5,788
    edited November -1
    It still irks me when other officers don't believe the laws apply to them. The sheriff that defended his speeding officers needs to remember that those deputies are representatives of his agency, plus he is responsible for how the deputies use those patrol cars which are paid for with tax dollars from the county he represents.

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    ghotie_thumperghotie_thumper Member Posts: 1,561 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    No defense for their actions, write them all, then you leo's that travel long distances to training in your unit make sure you do the posted speed limit too. If that convoy was full of marked patrol vehicles traveling a major highway across numerous states doing the speed limit you would have had the biggest traffic jam in history and probably some nice collisions because of it. It sounds like they were going a bit too fast and the show of lights was a little much. It's a fact that if they'd slowed down and turned off the lights they probably could have rolled through at a nice easy 80 or so without notice, gee like none of you've ever done anything stupid.

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    wundudneewundudnee Member Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ghotie_thumper
    No defense for their actions, write them all, then you leo's that travel long distances to training in your unit make sure you do the posted speed limit too. If that convoy was full of marked patrol vehicles traveling a major highway across numerous states doing the speed limit you would have had the biggest traffic jam in history and probably some nice collisions because of it. It sounds like they were going a bit too fast and the show of lights was a little much. It's a fact that if they'd slowed down and turned off the lights they probably could have rolled through at a nice easy 80 or so without notice, gee like none of you've ever done anything stupid.

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    So what you're saying is, all those signs that are posted up and down the highways are "suggested speed limits"?, or that law enforcement is immune to the traffic laws? I commend them for their volunteer work and think they deserve tickets if they were truly running 95 MPH and pushing other drivers out of the way. It sounds to me like they thought the law didn't pertain to them, or they were extremely arrogant.

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    tomh.tomh. Member Posts: 3,826 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    On my way home from vacation just last week, I was speeding too.
    The difference is: I knew I was speeding and knew I was going to get a ticket if I got stopped.
    These cops knew they were speeding and knew they weren't going to get a ticket....cause they're cops!
    Somebody shpuld have given them a citizens arrest, citizens arrest!
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    dcinffxvadcinffxva Member Posts: 2,830 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tomh,

    You can't make a citizens arrest for speeding. It's (in Virginia anyway, where this occurred) applicable only in felonies, or breach of peace misdemeanors.

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    Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,879 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We had quite the brou ha ha in Indianapolis a while back. County officer pulled over a city or the other way round.

    It got pretty messy before it was over.

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    tomh.tomh. Member Posts: 3,826 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was really just being kinda silly there. Did you guys see that episode when Gomer citizens arrest-ed Barney Fife for a U-turn? [:D]

    But since you brought it up, what's a breach of peace misdemeanor?
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    shooter4shooter4 Member Posts: 4,457
    edited November -1
    Arrogant young rambo leos. nuff said.

    From my state no less.
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    mateomasfeomateomasfeo Member Posts: 27,143
    edited November -1
    95 isn't all that fast.

    Just getting rolling!



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    dcinffxvadcinffxva Member Posts: 2,830 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tomh,

    I breach of peace misdemeanor would be things like simple assault, brandishing a firearm (misd. in Va.) disorderly conduct etc.

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    A J ChristA J Christ Member Posts: 7,534
    edited November -1
    What's CNN got to say about this?
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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    95MPH is WAY to fast for truck framed vehicles; let alone truck framed vehicles with tired drivers. Lights cause panic among many drivers; they hit the brakes even when doing the limit or less. I see it every day. Are these LEO morons above the law of physics in a crash of they cause?? Do they have the right to KILL your granny?

    EVERY SINGLE DRIVER IN THE CONVOY SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDED A TICKET.

    I drive too many miles to have cowboy LEOS show their self imposed importance by driving like a bunch of teen aged *-HolZes across the nations highways.

    ANY LEO THAT DOES NOT LIKE IT CAN KMA.

    Just MY not so darn humble opinion, which I have EARNED.
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    LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    "Professional courtesy," huh? How far does this "professional courtesy" extend?

    If a cop stops an out-of-area cop from beating a citizen senseless in a bar does he extend the "professional courtesy" and send him on his way?

    What about a cop who is caught hunting out of season? Does he just flip out his badge and receive "professional courtesy?"


    I think a cop should be MORE expected to obey traffic laws. How can one cop let another go with no ticket when he is flagrantly disobeying the law, especially if his law-breaking deed is one that would get a non-cop a ticket every time?

    I say "professional courtesy" is "professional corruption."




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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Lowrider
    "Professional courtesy," huh? How far does this "professional courtesy" extend?

    If a cop stops an out-of-area cop from beating a citizen senseless in a bar does he extend the "professional courtesy" and send him on his way?

    What about a cop who is caught hunting out of season? Does he just flip out his badge and receive "professional courtesy?"


    I think a cop should be MORE expected to obey traffic laws. How can one cop let another go with no ticket when he is flagrantly disobeying the law, especially if his law-breaking deed is one that would get a non-cop a ticket every time?

    I say "professional courtesy" is "professional corruption."




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    I agree to a point. there is reasonable and there is STUPID. The convoy, as reported here was STUPID plus DANGEROUS. Stupid is excusabe in a professional relationship, with proper AXX chewing. But stupid along with dangerous needs to be squashed, ticketed and stopped.
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    ThrockmortonThrockmorton Member Posts: 814 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    These cops were acting like jerks and should have been treated as such! No way does their badge put them above the law,and speeding at 95 is a whopping big ticket in most states..which those guys would gladly issue to your or I any day of the week.
    And scru their boss that defended their childish behavior.

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