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nards444
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In the hunt for rifle. Started shopping now.
Basically down to three models
Browning Medallion (a bolt) maybe the x bolt equivalent
Winchester Super Grade
Weatherby Vanguard Deluxe
Looking for something to replace my 300 ultra(which is a remington 700) to much gun and history on it that I dont care to discuss. Either way looking at 7mm Mag or 300 win mag (maybe wsm). Has to be wood looking for something thats pretty but shoots well. Budget is about 1000 for the gun. Without throwing to many other ideas in the mix, whats thoughts on those models and the calibers. I have a 7mm mag now but am trading it in during the purchase of the new rifle. Only thing I dont know is what a 300 mag is like.
Basically down to three models
Browning Medallion (a bolt) maybe the x bolt equivalent
Winchester Super Grade
Weatherby Vanguard Deluxe
Looking for something to replace my 300 ultra(which is a remington 700) to much gun and history on it that I dont care to discuss. Either way looking at 7mm Mag or 300 win mag (maybe wsm). Has to be wood looking for something thats pretty but shoots well. Budget is about 1000 for the gun. Without throwing to many other ideas in the mix, whats thoughts on those models and the calibers. I have a 7mm mag now but am trading it in during the purchase of the new rifle. Only thing I dont know is what a 300 mag is like.
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I would go with the regular 300 Winchester Magnum if that is what you want. I don't know where you hunt or what you are going to hunt with it but I would think about 30-06 or 280 Rem. Unless you are hunting at long range.
Of those I would choose the Winchester Super Grade. They are good looking rifles and the ones I have seen shot are fairly accurate.
I would go with the regular 300 Winchester Magnum if that is what you want. I don't know where you hunt or what you are going to hunt with it but I would think about 30-06 or 280 Rem. Unless you are hunting at long range.
Im thinking regular 300 as its easier to get. I have 308 and 30.06 already kind of looking for something for my out west gun. Used my 308 last and it worked but looking for more. Mainly hunting mule and white tails. But I want this gun to do Elk, etc. So thats why a magnum and probably 7mm or 300
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Of those I would choose the Winchester Super Grade. They are good looking rifles and the ones I have seen shot are fairly accurate.
I would go with the regular 300 Winchester Magnum if that is what you want. I don't know where you hunt or what you are going to hunt with it but I would think about 30-06 or 280 Rem. Unless you are hunting at long range.
Im thinking regular 300 as its easier to get. I have 308 and 30.06 already kind of looking for something for my out west gun. Used my 308 last and it worked but looking for more. Mainly hunting mule and white tails. But I want this gun to do Elk, etc. So thats why a magnum and probably 7mm or 300
300 magnum is the ultimate Elk caliber IMO.
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I would still tout the Super Grade.
Well out west the 300 Win Mag is a good all around Deer/ Bear/ Elk/ Moose gun.
I would still tout the Super Grade.
Thanks. Basically has to be magnum. After scope this will be a $1500 gun which is pricey for me. So I want it to basically be able to bag me anything in north america. I know 30.06 will do it and 308 as well as others. But after going out west my first time and plink shots are 2-300yds the benefits of less drop at yardage is what I am looking for.
Go handle the guns on your final list and see which one fits you bets.
Sounds like you already know what you want.
Go handle the guns on your final list and see which one fits you bets.
I do. Just trying to determine between 7mm or 300 and any thoughts. No place around here to really touch them all at the same time to kind of compare. large gun show coming up and hoping to form my final decision there, probably wont buy as I can get cheaper online.
Either of the other 2. 300 Win Mag is an excellent long range performer. It carries more * whuppin' than a 7 mag does.
Have you considered a Safari Grade?
Here's a real nice one, but they can be bought for 1,000-1200.00 for a nice used not abused one. Beautiful looking and they feel and shoot GREAT!
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=465417019
Think fast! This looks like quite a deal!!
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=464142114
I think the Vanguard is made by Howa.
Either of the other 2. 300 Win Mag is an excellent long range performer. It carries more * whuppin' than a 7 mag does.
wouldnt surprise me as Howa is made in Japan so is Weatherby. Which is kind of upsetting hate to have a jap made gun. But reality is guns are made by conglomerates now. Yeah theres remington but Im not buying that. Savage makes a great rifle that works, but doesnt offer a finish quality Im looking for. Ruger makes really nice stuff but im not looking for synthetic.
I'm a Browning guy.
Have you considered a Safari Grade?
Here's a real nice one, but they can be bought for 1,000-1200.00 for a nice used not abused one. Beautiful looking and they feel and shoot GREAT!
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=465417019
Think fast! This looks like quite a deal!!
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=464142114
I have. They are nice. Im not opposed to use if its the right deal and a barely shot weapon, but if Im going to dump a grand id prefer new never touched. I typically like all of my guns new, but I have 2 that were used that couldnt have had more than a box through and got a steal. But I will keep a look out
That second one is awful nice! In my opinion, better than anything currently being made! And a pretty darn good opening price! Getting an almost new one with a spare stock for just under a grand would be a great deal!
I'd venture to bet, you wouldn't lose a dime on it if you changed your mind.........[;)]
Not mine, by the way!!
Good luck with whatever you decide,
Ed
Nards,
That second one is awful nice! In my opinion, better than anything currently being made! And a pretty darn good opening price! Getting an almost new one with a spare stock for just under a grand would be a great deal!
I'd venture to bet, you wouldn't lose a dime on it if you changed your mind.........[;)]
Not mine, by the way!!
Good luck with whatever you decide,
Ed
Thanks for the idea. I wont be ready to buy for another month or so. But I could probably do that second one for sure. And I do the option of a syn stock coming with it, as I am looking for a show peice but having the ability to switch out during a nasty environment would be handy.
I like the 300 with 220gr Partitions for Elk/bear/moose, and 180gr for anything else furbearing.
The 7mm is OK for whatever you feel comfortable shooting, but limited to lighter bullets.
When I shoot F-Class, I use either AMAX or HPBT in 168-180gr in my 300s. I also load for accuracy over velocity, which sometimes means less recoil than factory loads.
Doping drop & point of impact are more important than brand names.
I use a Ruger 77mkll & a Sako TRG-s for my 300s, and either will shoot sub-moa at 1000yds. from a solid position.
The 7mms I've shot were Browning's, Rugers, Winchester's, & a Savage (the Savage was the least costly, but also least accurate).
It appears the seller is one of those with a starting price no where near his reserve. At least that's what it looks like in his other auctions!
Damn, I thought it was too good to be true! I was thinking about buying it if you were not going to!
Having shot & reloaded both 7mm & 300WM for about 25 years, I feel that if you stick to factory ammo for either caliber, you'll feel more recoil from the 7mm.
I like the 300 with 220gr Partitions for Elk/bear/moose, and 180gr for anything else furbearing.
The 7mm is OK for whatever you feel comfortable shooting, but limited to lighter bullets.
When I shoot F-Class, I use either AMAX or HPBT in 168-180gr in my 300s. I also load for accuracy over velocity, which sometimes means less recoil than factory loads.
Doping drop & point of impact are more important than brand names.
I use a Ruger 77mkll & a Sako TRG-s for my 300s, and either will shoot sub-moa at 1000yds. from a solid position.
The 7mms I've shot were Browning's, Rugers, Winchester's, & a Savage (the Savage was the least costly, but also least accurate).
I dont know a lot so bear with me. But the 300 having more power, with a heavier bullet and I think I read where it has more grains of powder as well, wouldnt that mean the 300 have more recoil, assuming were talking about all things being equal. Obviously different guns due to stock design and butt pad will handle it differently.
I would go with the Winchester Super Grade followed by the Weatherby Vanguard Deluxe.
I would personally stay away from the WSM. Between the .300 or the 7mm, I would opt for the .300 Win Mag.
Do the 300 Mag. I have seen 2 wounded Elk lost when using the 7mm.
Even in the west a large percentage of deer and elk are taken at <100 yards.
No I agree the mule I got in South Dakota was 300yds. Had a chance at some non shooters at around 100. But 250-400yd shots could have been taken easily on some more deer.
It's all subjective, but my shoulder tells me to stick with the 300.
I make all my own hunting and target ammo, & try to stay within a narrow window of velocities for best accuracy with repeatable & predictable trajectories.
In the hunt for rifle. Started shopping now.
Basically down to three models
Browning Medallion (a bolt) maybe the x bolt equivalent
Winchester Super Grade
Weatherby Vanguard Deluxe
Looking for something to replace my 300 ultra(which is a remington 700) to much gun and history on it that I dont care to discuss. Either way looking at 7mm Mag or 300 win mag (maybe wsm). Has to be wood looking for something thats pretty but shoots well. Budget is about 1000 for the gun. Without throwing to many other ideas in the mix, whats thoughts on those models and the calibers. I have a 7mm mag now but am trading it in during the purchase of the new rifle. Only thing I dont know is what a 300 mag is like.
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300 magnum is the ultimate Elk caliber IMO.
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GASP!!!! I teach you everything I know, and you still know nothing!!!
Everyone knows the 338 Win Mag is the Ultimate elk cartridge.
Of those listed I would go with the Winchester,
of those not listed, I'd go with a Sako 85.
Heres a wood stocked deal!
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=465700551
Ros
Why would you need anything other than a Savage? [8D]
great gun. Mechanically for the money they cant be beat. But im looking for something a little fancy, which savage doesnt offer.
As for being Jap made, the Weatherby is a Howa and the Browning is probably Miroku made.
I would go with the Winchester Super Grade followed by the Weatherby Vanguard Deluxe.
I would personally stay away from the WSM. Between the .300 or the 7mm, I would opt for the .300 Win Mag.
The Browning w/spare plastic stock is stamped Belgium..
quote:Originally posted by 17tobyracing
As for being Jap made, the Weatherby is a Howa and the Browning is probably Miroku made.
I would go with the Winchester Super Grade followed by the Weatherby Vanguard Deluxe.
I would personally stay away from the WSM. Between the .300 or the 7mm, I would opt for the .300 Win Mag.
It was awkwardly priced, both ended up being over 1000. And nothing aginst it, just not spending a grand on used.
The Browning w/spare plastic stock is stamped Belgium..
Take a peek at the Kimber 8400 classic great looking rifle right at your price range
I didnt think of those. But looking at MSRP of close to 1500 probably out of my price range. But definitely something I will keep in the back of my head.
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Back looking at the hardware can't find the right tool for the job, Open top Navy 41 colt 5.5in barrel. I suppose that I could get along with a 38 WCF 5.5in to keep my shots from dropping off now, check out the Saddle Rings...
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1} Browning X-bolt
2} Browning A-bolt
3} Winchester 70
4} Weatherby vangaurd {Will not buy any more of these}
I own or have owned all four of those rifles, here is my choice.
1} Browning X-bolt
2} Browning A-bolt
3} Winchester 70
4} Weatherby vangaurd {Will not buy any more of these}
Thanks. Everything I have been reading is x bolt over a bolt.
In my opinion(and I'm sure many others, a far superior rifle).
New isn't always the best.[;)][;)]
Nothing at all wrong with a 30-50 year old rifle that has been well taken care of.