Republican vs. Democrat vs. Truth...

HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
edited June 2004 in General Discussion
The conversation on another thread about..'Truth',versus 'Percieved Truth" is interesting...

When applied to the Two major parties in this country....My observations..are that the party OUT of power is more apt to ask the hard questions...and attempt to tell more real 'truth'..then the party IN power..

The drive to maintain power trumping ANY consideration of telling the "truth,the whole truth,so help me God.."


  • gap1916gap1916 Member Posts: 4,977
    edited November -1
    It is my belief that if it is perceived that those who perceive, beleive it to be true. There is no difference between perception and truth. When perception and truch come head to head then we have a debate and the winner tells us what the truth is and what the perception is. and a politician by any other name is still a politician. My 2 cents [8D]

    Former Marine
    A N G L I C O
  • babybearbabybear Member Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Highball, Is there a difference between parties anymore?? Seems we have been sold out by both...I have always been a staunch Republican, but the lines are blurred so I can't tell the difference anymore....Molly without a party

    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. LIBERTY IS A WELL ARMED LAMB CONTESTING THE VOTE.....Benjamin Franklin ...1759
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    quote:The drive to maintain power trumping ANY consideration of telling the "truth
    This could easily be changed to "The drive to regain power...."
    It is my "perception" (I guess) that the dems lie 100% of the time, at least in recent history, and the repubs are up to about 65-75%. So until a viable constitutional party candidate appears, I'll have to go with a repub for the office of pres.

    Before they can convince you that rights emanate from them (the government), they must first eliminate God. They are working 24/7 to accomplish this.

    "If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace" -Thomas Paine

    If the people have become so apathetic that they will not vote out all the liberal scum (republican and democrat alike), the only solution is Constitutional Convention II the sequel. Let's get it right this time.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Difference in parties ?

    NAhhhhh..in spite of how the Bushbots cry doom and gloom if " XXXXXXX gets in..."
    The facts remain that Socialists and Fascists BOTH have the same agenda..just different ways to get there.


    and both parties are selling America into third world status.Neither party worries about the Brown tide sweeping the Southwestern U.S..and coming to your community...

    Yes,the Democrats embrace every sleezy perversion extant..
    The Republicans provide for the care and coddling of the rich.

    Both steal your money..in ever increasing increments..
  • muggstermuggster Member Posts: 428 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I see the two parties as opponents in a WWF wrestling match.All BS,all the fighting is a ploy,all the blood...fake.The idiotic idiots in the audience lap it up and the wrestlers laugh all the way to the bank.[^]

  • Red223Red223 Member Posts: 7,946
    edited November -1
    I agree. Both parties are responsible for:

    The raping of the American economy.
    Vehicles with poor fuel mileage.
    Ludicrous government contracts.
    Outsourcing the nation.
    Failing to stop illegal immigration.
    Allowing immigrants to be in our armed forces and now get immediate citizenship at tax payer expense, just started this year.
    Destroying Medicare/Social Security
    Supporting illegal immigration and the over 1 Billion dollar drug route from Mexico across the Arizona desert.

    Allowing CEO's of Chevy, Ford, Chryslser, etc to move corporate headquarters overseas as they merge with foreign companies to avoid taxes.

    I don't think we can bear the truth.

  • ruger270manruger270man Member Posts: 9,361
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by babybear
    Highball, Is there a difference between parties anymore?? Seems we have been sold out by both...I have always been a staunch Republican, but the lines are blurred so I can't tell the difference anymore....Molly without a party

    I do somewhat agree with this, especially as I consider myself very far to the right. It seems there are republicans that want to compromise with liberal issues, like gun laws, abortion, welfare / health-care, etc.

    I think that a good number of candidates try too hard to make everybody happy, when in reality, if they set on hard view, and stuck with it, they would probably have a better chance. I bet if Bush would have a done deal on the election if he just said: "all gun laws are pointless, I will not sign the AW Ban, abortion is illegal, gay marriage is illegal, we are cutting back on welfare and government handouts (which will in turn allow us to cut back on taxes), and were going to downsize government, and get rid of the the stupid fees for stupid crap that doesn't do any damn good. Oh, and were not going to take any more crap from anybody, you mess with the US, we'll blow you out of the water. And also, with the money we save after we stop giving free money to the lazies, were going to pay our soldiers better, and help keep the USA the superior nation"


    "I will no longer debate a liberal because I feel they are beneath contempt. Just communicating with one contaminates a person." - whiteclouder

    "If the existing assault weapons ban expires, I personally do not believe it will make one whit of difference one way or another . . . So if it doesn't pass, it doesn't pass." Tom Diaz, Senior Policy Analyst, Violence Policy Center (VPC)
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    Sorry to disagree with ya' Highball, but I don't think either side can tell the truth or ask a legitimate question without putting their partisan spin on it no matter who is in power.

    How you doin'!wolf_evil_smile_md_wht.gif
  • pickenuppickenup Member, Moderator Posts: 22,393 ******
    edited November -1
    Could it be time to put someone from a DIFFERENT party into office(s)?
    Naaaaa.............let's stick with the same old, same old.

    The gene pool needs chlorine.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Well..YA, Dheff.,

    We are a LOT closer then you think on this matter !! [:D]
  • victorlvlbvictorlvlb Member Posts: 5,004
    edited November -1
    Dheff.,you hit the nail square on the head.But if you could kick them all out of office they'd be back in a New York second.You can change the baby's dipper all you want,but if you don't wash the baby, it will still stink.Drop thier pay to what a P.F.C makes and see who runs for office.Oh well I can at least dream.You all have a good nights sleep.

    And this has come to pass,not to stay.
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