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coyote's how to draw them in?
kris
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i live in a rural twp in mid michigan...we are having a big increase in the sightings and sounds of coyotes...my neighbor puts out corn for deer and phesants to chow on.....what would work on getting the coytes in closer?..we are over run with rabbits and i just want to invite them in for a free lunch.
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You might get some to come to a hand call or tape of a injured rabbit, etc. But it will only be out of intrest, instead of hunger.
Young coyotes are easier to call than the old seasoned ones "PHD" educated. If one has been suckered in and wasnt taken, he is a hard sell on any kind of call. If you do call, dont give up. You wont call them in every time, reason; not hungry, uninterested, etc. In my experiance you might get one to come to you 1 in 5 times, so you have to keep at it. Sometimes they are right there in under a minute staring at you within 10 feet wondering "damn thats a big rabbit" and other times it takes forever.
Most times if one dosent show within 10 minutes its time to move to a new location.
Early morning, 1/2 hour before sunrise and early evening just as the sun is setting, are the best times. Ive also found out that they are moving and easier to call just as it starting to snow, this can be anytime during the day. Guess they want to find some grub before it buried and its a little harder to find.
Use a small caliber rifle, 222 rem, 223, 22-250, 6mm Rem. for"ohiohog and me" etc, most will be seen in under 100 yards, unless you have some wide open areas, where they can be seen much farther. Night calling can be exciting. Under a full moon and snow background they can be hunted without the use of artifical light, just know your background and whats out there in the dark. Shotguns play good here with buckshot, cause they come running straight at the call with little fear in the dark, unless they have been "educated" then it might take a little longer. Hunger will generally get to the best of them, because its a "dog eat dog world" and they want to get there first. As is "early bird gets the worm" they will show. Not every time, but a lot better than 1 in 5, like 1 in 3, so dont give up, it a RUSH!!!![:p]
By all means get some good camo for fall and white for snow and night calling with snow. DONT MOVE AROUND!!!!!! they can see a "fart" if were visible, so stay still as possible with a little background as cover, and always be as quiet as a mouse, they can hear that fart too.
There are a lot of other people on the board that hunt and call them, so my post my be different than theirs.
I live in southeast Kansas and critters act different, in other types of terrain and climates.
Happy hunting.
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If so, try sitting in a spot and try calling a tom, or call like a hen trying to call back her poults, you'll be ringin the dinner bell for the coyotes.
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Thanks for all the help!
My grandfather fished and hunted only when the critters around the farm were moving. If the dogs were laying in the shade, the cats hid out/sleeping, cows laying down, etc., we didn't go. If the animals were up feeding and or playing, it was time to be in the woods or fishin'.
Think about it. When you are hunting and see lot's of doe and maybe a buck or two, you will also see rabbits, coyotes, *, armadillos, on and on. Even the song birds are active. Every critter out there is feeding at the same time.
As a bass angler I pay attention. If the cows are up, the bass are feeding too. If you aren't catching something then you're just in the wrong part of the lake/pasture. I make the point about "pasture" because when you look at the cows, they are not all over with one per acre. Cows congregate in certain areas, bass do the same thing.
Watch your kids parakeet or birds at your backyard feeder. If they are feeding, bet your cat or dog will willingly play as well. Check the moon charts!
Point is, I've gone calling (for close to fifty years), and zipped because the coyotes, fox, * and bob kitties were resting-after a meal. Call when they are out hunting and you'll increase your odds a bunch.
tocarz: talk is cheap, Im not that lucky when I go out.
Took my 11 year old son out last winter. It was about 5 degrees out and a foot snow everywhere and a full moon, no wind, thank god, boy was it cold. We went to about 4 places until we got a "hit" and it was totaly unexpected, as most are. We had just set down near an open soybean field with cover in back and to the left of us. Turned on the tape, hadnt even been on 45 sec. when I caught a movement to my right, there he was. My son was to my right and didnt see it yet, I nudged him on the shoulder and wispered "look there" I never got a shot off at him, but my son was excited, just the same.
Coyote had come in the same way we did.
He was convinced that they do come to calls, but I told him that it does take some time, sometimes. We were so cold then, that we decided to call it a night and it was just 9:00. The other 3 places that we tried, we let the tape play the full 30 minutes with not even a sign.
We had fun, and thats whats important when you take a young one out hunting.[^]
I have considered a night vision scope, but Kansas Wildlife and Parks, has rewritten the regs. on hunting and it now states something like "light enhanced and artificial light" devices, were illegal for taking coyotes at night.
Dang the luck...... but what they dont know, wont hurt them.[:D]
I have never tried the pup in distress tape, but I think Ill get one and give it a try.
Woodpecker tape; Ive got one, but it didnt sound right to me. It didnt make me hungry, but I guess its an "interest" call for coyotes. Dugh!!!!! Im not a coyote, so guess Ill give that a little more use and see if I get some results.
Ive used hand calls with good results and I have an old "Johnny Stewert" electronic caller. Ive had better results with an old cassette tape player than with this thing.
Im looking at all these new digital callers with interest, but I dont see how the battery life with some of those big speakers, can be very long. What I have read about them is pretty good, so who knows might end up with one of them if the price was right. Most are a little to high right now, but like VCRs and DVDs, the price will certainly come down in time, I hope.
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Also, when I bowhunt, I carry a call. My experience has been a single data point that a distressed rabbit will not * deer. ANY other thoughts would bee appreciated. My test was a few years ago; I saw 3 does that were about 80-100 yards moving away....I wailed on the distressed rabbit call and the deer stopped for a second or two, then kept grazing and moving away from me. Since then, before or after buck "prime-time", I will call when I see a coy-dog...sometimes they have no interest, but about 70% of the time they will show interest. I've arrowed a few that way, but it has also helped me build an understanding of how they react to my calling. Oh, yeah, I still get a few deer too [:D]
Remember one time last year, that I had just set down and turned on the tape, was pulling down camo hood, had it on a little backwards. As soon as I had it straight, the yote was already on the retreat and heading for cover like there was no tomarrow. He came out timber right to the side of me, saw this 220# rabbit and hightailed it. Less than 10 seconds, not even time to shoulder rifle and see him run over a terrace.
The closest that I have ever been to a "live one" was about fifteen years ago. Was calling from a ridge laying down looking over an 80 acre hay meadow, when the birds around me started making a racket, didnt think about it till it was over. But the birds were telling me that there was another predator beside the 200# one looking across the field present. A large yote appeared within arms reach of me,[:0] man thats to close. Scared the H out of him too. Did manage to get him when he stopped running at about 100 yards.
To this day its the onle one that I shot, that let out a screem like I have never heard before. I guess it was a dying wail or somthing, cause I hit him right through the neck.[xx(]
When birds start acting a little wierd I start looking.[:p]
Got a nice buck during deer season years ago while calling yotes. Guess he was going to see what was making that rabbit hurt so bad and found out it wasnt what he wanted.[xx(][;)]
Did you check out that site that REBJr posted? looks interesting but I dont think they can teach me anything that I dont alredy know. They do have some nice pic posted, most look like the were taken in desert, high plains setting and didnt suit my style of hunting here in southeast Kansas.
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