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Feds stealing more money from Social Security
beneteau
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United States Senator Mike Lee
Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015
This is how it happens.
Last night while you were sleeping the Senate voted to steal $150 billion dollars from the Social Security Trust Fund. I joined 34 of my colleagues in a vote to prevent this raid. I would like to thank Senator Rand Paul for leading the fight to protect to Social Security from the thieves in Washington, who seem to think that if they steal from the American people at night while they are sleeping that they will get away with it. I was proud to vote with Senator Paul on his point of order that would have protected Social Security, and I ask you to help me shine a light on what Washington has tried to hide from you in the darkness of night.
If everyone who sees this message shares it, it will reach millions of Americans. As someone who has been fighting for years to reform our broken government in Washington, I know it is exhausting, I sympathize with your frustration, and I understand your impatience. But don't give up. Washington wants you to give up.
Just remember, a vote to raid social security in the middle of the night in a desperate attempt to perpetuate an unsustainable spending addiction isn't a sign of strength. It is a sign of weakness.
Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015
This is how it happens.
Last night while you were sleeping the Senate voted to steal $150 billion dollars from the Social Security Trust Fund. I joined 34 of my colleagues in a vote to prevent this raid. I would like to thank Senator Rand Paul for leading the fight to protect to Social Security from the thieves in Washington, who seem to think that if they steal from the American people at night while they are sleeping that they will get away with it. I was proud to vote with Senator Paul on his point of order that would have protected Social Security, and I ask you to help me shine a light on what Washington has tried to hide from you in the darkness of night.
If everyone who sees this message shares it, it will reach millions of Americans. As someone who has been fighting for years to reform our broken government in Washington, I know it is exhausting, I sympathize with your frustration, and I understand your impatience. But don't give up. Washington wants you to give up.
Just remember, a vote to raid social security in the middle of the night in a desperate attempt to perpetuate an unsustainable spending addiction isn't a sign of strength. It is a sign of weakness.
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I don't necessarily agree with it either, but to say it was stolen from Social Security is a stretch.
The simple fact of the matter is that both programs promise too much for too little paid in.
There is no trust fund; the money has been gone for years, we send in the "contribution" (TAX!) and they put those dollars on a ledger. As soon as the ink is dry they steal it. Your ledger still shows the money is there but the vault in WV has only congressional IOU's.
Exactly, started during the Johnson "war on poverty" give-a way[V]
There is no trust fund; the money has been gone for years, we send in the "contribution" (TAX!) and they put those dollars on a ledger. As soon as the ink is dry they steal it. Your ledger still shows the money is there but the vault in WV has only congressional IOU's.
Nailed it. There is no SS trust fund.The way I remember in was in 1968 Lyndon B Johnson moved all money from a SS Trust fund into the General Fund to help pay for the Viet Nam War.
Neal
"A prophet is a pariah in his own time." ---- unknown
i doubt the IOU's are even on paper
They are on a paper....last I heard, they are stored in a single filing cabinet in a small office in WV.
Absolutely.
I am proud to say my rep Barton (R-TX) voted against it, a total of 167 Republicans voted against it in the House. And I got 50% in the Senate (that's why I worked for an upgrade in 12).
Want to know how your rep voted?
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members
There is a short cut, if your Congressman is a Democrat, they voted for it. 100% of the Democrats in the House and 100% in the Senate voted YEA. (that is the same percentage as the ACA).
SS and SSD should rightfully be removed from any special designation and moved into the General Fund so as to be treated like the day to day expense that they have become.
The myth of any separation of funds today needs to be dispelled, and people must realize that they are paying into and being paid out of current accounts.
Brad Steele
The "bipartisan" budget the US House just passed also contains some major cuts in Social Security - mainly spousal benefits and the "lump-sum payment" choice.
Good. Both acts were needed.
Democrats that call themselves Republicans
John McCain (AZ)----yes
Lindsey Graham (SC)----yes
Lamar Alexander (TN)---yes
Orrin Hatch (UT)
yes
Mitch McConnell (KY)---yes
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Capitol (R-WV)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Graham (R-SC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Kirk (R-IL)
McCain (R-A2)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rounds (R-SD)
Thune (R-SD)
Tillis (R-NC)
Wicker (R-MS)
Shame and note the sell out scum that steal our benefits.
Curse their black souls!
Maybe someone smarter than me can explain it.
Mr McManus correctly points out that both programs should be paid out of the General fund, as the current system is basically just shifting imaginary money from one budget to another, but the law doesn't currently allow for that.
If this hadn't been done, people on Social Security Disability (and there are a bunch of them on this forum, btw) would have seen a significant cut in benefits very soon.
Still trying to understand how allowing other Social Security funds to prevent Disability Trust fund to go bankrupt is "stealing".
Maybe someone smarter than me can explain it.
Mr McManus correctly points out that both programs should be paid out of the General fund, as the current system is basically just shifting imaginary money from one budget to another, but the law doesn't currently allow for that.
If this hadn't been done, people on Social Security Disability (and there are a bunch of them on this forum, btw) would have seen a significant cut in benefits very soon.
every one that voted to "borrow" for it should take a long walk on a short pier...after the waters are well chummed
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