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Glock selling guns to terrorists?

Mr. GunzMr. Gunz Member Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
My friend bought a Smith and Wesson M&P today and i asked him why not a glock...me being a big Glock fan and he said because glock sold guns to terrorists...is this true or a rumor?

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  • HappyNanoqHappyNanoq Member Posts: 12,023
    edited November -1
    True.

    Because americans don't want plastic - someone else will.
  • MossbergboogieMossbergboogie Member Posts: 12,211
    edited November -1
    Our government probably did too.
  • BaseJumperBaseJumper Member Posts: 5,570
    edited November -1
    According to POTUS American gun manufacturer's provide 80% of the weapons to Mexico drug cartel.

    Careful what you believe. I am sure that Obama has plenty of cash flow from Saudi to buy whatever he wants. I doubt he has account with Glock, or any other manufacturer.
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,645 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Reminds me of "Lord of War". When Smith & Wesson, Colt and the likes were supplying (now terrorists) they were known as "Freedom Fighters".
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They supply those special porcelain models to terrorists.

    Bruce Willis said so.
  • HappyNanoqHappyNanoq Member Posts: 12,023
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
    Reminds me of "Lord of War". When Smith & Wesson, Colt and the likes were supplying (now terrorists) they were known as "Freedom Fighters".


    Good movie.

    It's all about taking sides.



    How about those Barret-rifles that are now in the hands of terrorists.?

    I believe those rifles was donated because those that are now terrorists, was against a common enemy at that time.

    But now, when those rifles are turned 180degrees - it's a bad thing.

    It's all in the presentation.


    I bet there are a lot of middlemen, strawpurchases and such - in order to get the guns.

    But let's face it - any gun can turn up in enemy hands.

    Look at the AK's. They are partly being used against the terrorists by US troops if a storage is seized. Due to ... was it shortage of weapons for personnel in tanks ... or was it because the AK worked continously in the present environment and the M16 didnt?
  • BaseJumperBaseJumper Member Posts: 5,570
    edited November -1
    looked up Glock customers on Wiki. Was not surprised at the countries that buy them for police and military, bit I was surprised to find this:

    quote: United States: FBI, Department of Treasury IRS Criminal Investigation Division[56], DEA,[57], EPA Criminal Investigation Division, New York City Police Department, LAPD, thousands of other agencies at the national, state, and local levels.

    IRS, I suppose I can understand the theory of arming them but not agree with the reality of it. EPA needs to be armed to go and tell you your companies emissions are too high I guess.

    Not yet mentioned are the "Obama Youth Brigade" Coming soon to a Socialist Community near you!
  • IngallsIngalls Member Posts: 304 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:When Smith & Wesson, Colt and the likes were supplying (now terrorists) they were known as "Freedom Fighters".

    Good Point. One mans terrorist is another mans hero. Id like to hear all of the facts first.
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BaseJumper
    looked up Glock customers on Wiki. Was not surprised at the countries that buy them for police and militarySo what was the largest, most significant national military to adopt this design as their standard issue handgun in it's close to 30 years on the market? I mean besides the Lithuania.

    Sorry, I couldn't help myself. [:D]
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ingalls
    quote:When Smith & Wesson, Colt and the likes were supplying (now terrorists) they were known as "Freedom Fighters".

    Good Point. One mans terrorist is another mans hero. Id like to hear all of the facts first.Wrong. Guerilla or Partisan aren't synonymous with terrorist.

    Not all 'Freedom Fighters' target civilians to pressure the military forces they face.
  • RtWngExtrmstRtWngExtrmst Member Posts: 7,456
    edited November -1
    Who cares who gets which guns where? I don't think the firepower of a glock pistol would be important compared for example to an RPG.
  • BaseJumperBaseJumper Member Posts: 5,570
    edited November -1
    Can't vouch for Wiki, but here is the whole list for ya.
    quote:Users

    Afghanistan: Afghan National Police.[citation needed]
    Australia: Royal Australian Air Force (Glock 19), Australian Customs (Glock 17), and all Australian police services except the South Australian Police and Victoria Police. A Glock 17 outfitted with a thumb safety was designed specifically for the Tasmania Police.[38]
    Austria: Austrian Armed Forces (Glock 17 designated Pistole 80).[39][40]
    Belgium: Belgian police (Glock 17),[40] Belgian State Security Service.[41]
    Brazil: Federal Police Department (Glock 17, Glock 19, or Glock 26 according to agent preference).[citation needed]
    Canada: Calgary, Edmonton, Ottawa, Saskatoon, South Coast British Columbia Transportation Authority Police Service, Toronto.[40]
    Ecuador: National Police, various special police units such as the GOE and GIR.[40]
    Finland: Police and border guard.[citation needed]
    Fiji: Tactical Response Unit.[42]
    France: French Army-certain naval and parachute units (Glock 17).[43]
    Germany: GSG 9 of the German Federal Police,[40] Spezialeinsatzkommandos (special response teams) of several state police departments.
    Hong Kong: Special Duties Unit, Hong Kong Police Force.[40]
    Iceland: Icelandic National Police, V?kingasveitin, ICRU.[44][45][46]
    India: Special Protection Group and National Security Guards (both use the Glock 17).[40]
    Indonesia: Indonesian Army Kopassus, Indonesian National Police Force, Detachment 88.
    Iraq: Iraqi security forces.
    Israel: military and paramilitary units (Yamam, Shayetet 13, Shabak).
    Italy: Italian special forces-GIS, NOCS, "Col Moschin" Regiment, COMSUBIN, Intelligence and State Security.
    Jordan: Presidential Guard.[40]
    Latvia: Latvian Military (Glock 17), police.[47]
    Lithuania: Lithuanian Armed Forces (Glock 17).[48]
    Malaysia: Malaysian Armed Forces, numerous other military and law enforcement agencies (9 mm Glock variants).[citation needed]
    Mexico: Secretaria de Marina.[40]
    Netherlands: Military of the Netherlands (Glock 17),[49] Dutch police (Glock 17).[50]
    New Zealand: New Zealand Police (Glock 17).[citation needed]
    Norway: Norwegian Army (Glock 17 designated P-80).[40]
    Pakistan: Pakistan Army and Pakistan Air Force, PROVOST Units and Military Police.[citation needed]
    Philippines: Philippine National Police, National Bureau of Investigation (NBI), National Intelligence Coordinating Agency (NICA).[40]
    Poland: Polish police,[51] Polish Military Police (Glock 17).
    Romania: Issued to deployed and several special operations units.
    Slovenia[citation needed]
    Spain: Guardia Civil's UEI (Glock 17).[citation needed]
    Sri Lanka: Sri Lanka Police.[citation needed]
    South Korea: South Korean Army, Blue House Security (Glock 19).[citation needed]
    Sweden: Swedish Armed Forces (Glock 17 designated Pistol 88 and Glock 19 as Pistol 88B,[52][53]) Swedish Customs Service, Swedish Coast Guard.
    Taiwan: Garrison Command. National Intelligence Coordinating Agency.
    Thailand: Police (Glock 17).[40]
    United Kingdom: Greater Manchester Police, Tactical Firearms Unit Specialist Firearms Command of the London Metropolitan Police Service[54], Police Service of Northern Ireland (Glock 17).[55]
    United States: FBI, Department of Treasury IRS Criminal Investigation Division[56], DEA,[57], EPA Criminal Investigation Division, New York City Police Department, LAPD, thousands of other agencies at the national, state, and local levels.
    Venezuela[40]
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,645 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    Wrong. Guerilla or Partisan aren't synonymous with terrorist.

    Not all 'Freedom Fighters' target civilians to pressure the military forces they face.


    It really depend on which side of the barrel you're on. I'm thinking Central America in the '80's or any time Middle East. Wasn't Afgani "freedom fighters" getting US goodies to punch it up with then Soviets and now the US?

    We all know gun makers are in it for the cash like the car makers. It's all about population control.
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