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Here is an article about just how good pot is for ya..Dont Flame the messenger.. I could care less if your pot smoker.., just a little info I found on the net..
Q: Does marijuana pose health risks to users?
Marijuana is an addictive drug1 with significant health consequences to its users and others. Many harmful short-term and long-term problems have been documented with its use:
The short term effects of marijuana use include: memory loss, distorted perception, trouble with thinking and problem solving, loss of motor skills, decrease in muscle strength, increased heart rate, and anxiety2.
In recent years there has been a dramatic increase in the number of emergency room mentions of marijuana use. From 1993-2000, the number of emergency room marijuana mentions more than tripled.
There are also many long-term health consequences of marijuana use. According to the National Institutes of Health, studies show that someone who smokes five joints per week may be taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as someone who smokes a full pack of cigarettes every day.
Marijuana contains more than 400 chemicals, including most of the harmful substances found in tobacco smoke. Smoking one marijuana cigarette deposits about four times more tar into the lungs than a filtered tobacco cigarette.
Harvard University researchers report that the risk of a heart attack is five times higher than usual in the hour after smoking marijuana.3
Smoking marijuana also weakens the immune system4 and raises the risk of lung infections.5 A Columbia University study found that a control group smoking a single marijuana cigarette every other day for a year had a white-blood-cell count that was 39 percent lower than normal, thus damaging the immune system and making the user far more susceptible to infection and sickness.6
Users can become dependent on marijuana to the point they must seek treatment to stop abusing it. In 1999, more than 200,000 Americans entered substance abuse treatment primarily for marijuana abuse and dependence..
Q: Does marijuana pose health risks to users?
Marijuana is an addictive drug1 with significant health consequences to its users and others. Many harmful short-term and long-term problems have been documented with its use:
The short term effects of marijuana use include: memory loss, distorted perception, trouble with thinking and problem solving, loss of motor skills, decrease in muscle strength, increased heart rate, and anxiety2.
In recent years there has been a dramatic increase in the number of emergency room mentions of marijuana use. From 1993-2000, the number of emergency room marijuana mentions more than tripled.
There are also many long-term health consequences of marijuana use. According to the National Institutes of Health, studies show that someone who smokes five joints per week may be taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as someone who smokes a full pack of cigarettes every day.
Marijuana contains more than 400 chemicals, including most of the harmful substances found in tobacco smoke. Smoking one marijuana cigarette deposits about four times more tar into the lungs than a filtered tobacco cigarette.
Harvard University researchers report that the risk of a heart attack is five times higher than usual in the hour after smoking marijuana.3
Smoking marijuana also weakens the immune system4 and raises the risk of lung infections.5 A Columbia University study found that a control group smoking a single marijuana cigarette every other day for a year had a white-blood-cell count that was 39 percent lower than normal, thus damaging the immune system and making the user far more susceptible to infection and sickness.6
Users can become dependent on marijuana to the point they must seek treatment to stop abusing it. In 1999, more than 200,000 Americans entered substance abuse treatment primarily for marijuana abuse and dependence..
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Keep Your Powder Dry
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MARK TWAIN
You are right about the memory thing, sometimes I forget to use a syringe.
Mateomasfeo
"I am what I am!" - Popeye
I said, "That smells like burning rubber, what is it?"
Answer: "It's an Opium Marijuana mixture, it's not addictive, I've been doing it for 25 years."
"Were not here for a long time were here for a good time"
Here is an article about just how good pot is for ya..Dont Flame the messenger.. I could care less if your pot smoker.., just a little info I found on the net..
I don't smoke pot, I have no love of it, but I have even less love for modern "Reefer Madness" type propaganda.
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Q: Does marijuana pose health risks to users?
Marijuana is an addictive drug1 with significant health consequences to its users and others. Many harmful short-term and long-term problems have been documented with its use:
In fact there is no medical consensus on whether or not marijuana is an addictive drug. By the standard criteria of self-administration by laboratory animals, tolerance, etc, marijuana is actually less addictive than coffee. In comparison to more usual "drugs of abuse" like alcohol, cocaine, heroin, prescription drugs, etc, marijuana is by FAR the least addictive in the usual sense of that term.
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The short term effects of marijuana use include: memory loss, distorted perception, trouble with thinking and problem solving, loss of motor skills, decrease in muscle strength, increased heart rate, and anxiety2.
Yup, that's exactly why people smoke it! Next thing you're going to tell me that drinking alcohol causes a loss of judgement, trouble with thinking and problem solving, distorted perception, loss of motor skills, etc.
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In recent years there has been a dramatic increase in the number of emergency room mentions of marijuana use. From 1993-2000, the number of emergency room marijuana mentions more than tripled.
ER *MENTIONS*? That's like saying the number of BJ "mentions" in major newspapers went up 2000% after the Lewinsky affair. The only thing that statistic means is that unlike during the Reagan "just say no" era, now people aren't afraid to talk about marijuana use anymore. How about some objective measure of PATHOLOGY associated with marijuana use instead of a worthless figure like that?
Go ask ANY ER doctor what the most dangerous drugs are, the ones that cause the most ER admissions, and they will all tell you the things that give them the most business are:
1. alcohol.
2. alcohol.
3. alcohol.
4. alcohol.
5. alcohol.
6. alcohol.
7. alcohol.
8. alcohol
9. Heroin
10. Cocaine
11. Amphetamines/exctacy/lsd
12. MEDICAL drugs (ie prescription, aspirin, tylenol).
13. cigarettes. . . .
14. marijuana.
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There are also many long-term health consequences of marijuana use. According to the National Institutes of Health, studies show that someone who smokes five joints per week may be taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as someone who smokes a full pack of cigarettes every day.
That's not a long term health consequence, is it? Some people smoke two packs of cigarettes per day. How come the hospitals aren't full of people who developed lung cancer and emphysema from their MARIJUANA use the way they are full of cigarette smokers and drinkers with cirrhosis?
quote:
Marijuana contains more than 400 chemicals, including most of the harmful substances found in tobacco smoke. Smoking one marijuana cigarette deposits about four times more tar into the lungs than a filtered tobacco cigarette.
Gosh. . .400 chemicals!! A sip of Coca cola contains over 200 "chemicals". So what? Saying marijuana is four times as cancer-causing as cigarettes might be meaningful if the average schmoe smoked 4-5 marijuana cigarettes per day. (see above).
quote:
Harvard University researchers report that the risk of a heart attack is five times higher than usual in the hour after smoking marijuana.3
How much higher is in the hour after having sex?
After smoking a regular cigarette?
After climbing two flights of stairs?
After drinking three beers?
After a cup of coffee?
After taking a Viagra?
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Smoking marijuana also weakens the immune system4 and raises the risk of lung infections.5 A Columbia University study found that a control group smoking a single marijuana cigarette every other day for a year had a white-blood-cell count that was 39 percent lower than normal, thus damaging the immune system and making the user far more susceptible to infection and sickness.6
I think that study dates back to the early 1970s and has long since been discredited. But again, if marijuana is so damaging to the immune system, how come hospitals aren't full of sick marijuana smokers?
quote:
Users can become dependent on marijuana to the point they must seek treatment to stop abusing it. In 1999, more than 200,000 Americans entered substance abuse treatment primarily for marijuana abuse and dependence..
The overwhelming majority of those individuals were ORDERED into treatment by the courts after being caught with pot. Virtually NOBODY voluntarily checks into rehab just because they smoke pot. Its practically unheard of.
Again, if marijuana is so dangerous and despicable where are the homeless marijuana addicts who are selling themselves on the street for a "hit" like the crack and heroin junkies? Where are the adults who claim that marijuana has ruined their lives like with all of the other drugs? Where is the marijuana associated violent crime?
The statistics show that the overwhelming majority of young people who like to smoke pot quit (by themselves without any treatment) when they hit their 30s.
There are plenty of good reasons NOT to smoke pot, but villifying the stuff and saying its like alcohol, crack, or heroin doesnt do anything but show to our young people (who arent as stupid as they seem) that the adults are a bunch of hypocrites.
my feeling on drug use/abuse: right up to the point that your actions in any way effects my life, i have no interest in what you do. period. i just dont care. use whatever drug you want, as much as you want, for as long as you want. i really dont care
but, the very instant your addiction effects my life, i care and i will react. depending on excatly what that effect is will vary how much i care and what the reaction will be.
I knew a guy when I was younger who smoked pot for 35 years, never had a related illness
I grew up in a very bad neighborhood, never once did I see someone get stoned and commit a crime, and I knew a lot of hoodlums
And I feel if it makes you get through this life, go ahead light up its your life not mine
One of my friends in school smokes about 2 grand of weed a month and is the smartest kid i have ever seen. He did a presentation in an upper leval math class about the chaos theory and blew the teacher away. she told him that he was smarter than her and she had her doctorate
"Were not here for a long time were here for a good time"
Imagine what he could accomplish if he were straight.
"When the going gets weird, the Weird turn pro"
Hunter S. Thompson"
And after reading over 100 different articles by different researchers, I have a tendency to believe what they are saying, as all say the same thing..But I dont know,, Just passing the article on..[:D]
quote:I don't smoke pot, I have no love of it, but I have even less love for modern "Reefer Madness" type propaganda.
Do you honestly believe a medical study to be "Propaganda" or just trying to justify the use of a drug...??[:0]
I am sure some people are happy walking around in a stupor all their lives.. Ive known a few...[:0] be it from Drugs, or Drink..
They've spent millions and millions over the years and will spend millions more on a losing battle of fighting drugs. The "crap" that pot use will lead to addiction of other drugs---is, also, just that----"crap".
If you have not personally experienced the use of cigarettes, liquor, pot, etc., how can anyone state how it affects a person, how addictive it is and on and on. Simple---believe Big Brother's propaganda.
Anyone know that legalized "pot" has been grown for years at the University of Mississippi (for research)?
Legalize it and tax it!
Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators.
Will Rogers
There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators.
Will Rogers
Do you honestly believe a medical study to be "Propaganda" or just trying to justify the use of a drug...??[:0]
I don't need to justify anything.
And you didn't actually quote a "study". . . you quoted an internet piece that referenced other studies. As I think was clear based on my last post, the piece you quoted was deliberately alarmist, and therefore impossible to take seriously. "My god. . .there are FOUR HUNDRED chemicals in MARIJUANA!! Oh NO!!"
The references cited in your piece were omitted from your post. If you want to argue the merit of various studies you'll need to quote them directly, or at least reference them directly.
Second of all, you simply cannot trust everything you read in the medical literature, in particular when it comes to politically charged areas. The way it works in science is that the more spectacular your findings, the more grant money you get and the more your career advances. Studies that show no link between pathology and drug abuse don't get published. . .or worse, they get repeated again and again and again until finally one of them shows a link. The amount of data on marijuana is staggering. . .and most of it shows virtually no harm from taking the stuff. If you want to cherry pick out the worst papers, I'll show you papers that show that drinking milk causes heart attacks and significantly increases the risk of developing multiple cancer. I'll also show you a paper that shows that your risk of having a heart attack doubles when you step into New York City.
If you want to read a reasonable scientific refutation to what you published, try reading any of the works of Dr. Lester Grinspoon, a Harvard Psychiatrist, who has testified in front of the US Congress about the SAFETY of marijuana.
http://www.rxmarihuana.com/testimony.htm
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I am sure some people are happy walking around in a stupor all their lives.. Ive known a few...[:0] be it from Drugs, or Drink..
There are many people like that.
But what makes you assume that everyone who has ever smoked marijuana is like that? The overwhelming majority of Americans who have tried marijuana (which is at least 1/3 of them, and probably a lot more), are completely normal, healthy, and functional.
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
Probably a POT HEAD as were many professors back in the 60 and 70s
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The tobacco companies also deny that cigarettes are addictive and harmful.. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
"Save the Whalers, they need jobs too."
If god didn't put it in you then it don't belong there in the first place!
Thank you Thomas Aquinas.
If god didn't put it in you then it don't belong there in the first place!
Yeah! Like food and air and stuff!!!
Mateomasfeo
"I am what I am!" - Popeye
If it Flies it Dies
All my guns are AMERICAN MADE
If god didn't put it in you then it don't belong there in the first place!
Is that what your wife tells you?
"Tell me, why is it that I should trade one tyrant 3000 miles away for 3000 tyrants one mile away....? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights..."
The tobacco companies also deny that cigarettes are addictive and harmful.. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
No they don't:
http://www.philipmorrisusa.com/en/health_issues/cigarette_smoking_and_disease.asp
quote:
Cigarette Smoking and Disease in Smokers
Philip Morris USA (PM USA) agrees with the overwhelming medical and scientific consensus that cigarette smoking causes lung cancer, heart disease, emphysema and other serious diseases in smokers. Smokers are far more likely to develop serious diseases, like lung cancer, than non-smokers. There is no safe cigarette.
These are and have been the messages of the U.S. Surgeon General and public health authorities worldwide. Smokers and potential smokers should rely on these messages in making all smoking-related decisions.
from a seasoned daily smoker! a couple of years ago, i caught pnemonia and had to go to the hospital,the doctor said my lungs looked like i have been smoking for 30 years.Remember, i stopped 5 years ago! You cant tell me it doesnt hurt your body! Ive seen good friends whoes lives have been effected and there marrages because of a little weed!
quote:Originally posted by beantownshootah
quote:Originally posted by Classic095
Here is an article about just how good pot is for ya..Dont Flame the messenger.. I could care less if your pot smoker.., just a little info I found on the net..
I don't smoke pot, I have no love of it, but I have even less love for modern "Reefer Madness" type propaganda.
quote:
Q: Does marijuana pose health risks to users?
Marijuana is an addictive drug1 with significant health consequences to its users and others. Many harmful short-term and long-term problems have been documented with its use:
In fact there is no medical consensus on whether or not marijuana is an addictive drug. By the standard criteria of self-administration by laboratory animals, tolerance, etc, marijuana is actually less addictive than coffee. In comparison to more usual "drugs of abuse" like alcohol, cocaine, heroin, prescription drugs, etc, marijuana is by FAR the least addictive in the usual sense of that term.
quote:
The short term effects of marijuana use include: memory loss, distorted perception, trouble with thinking and problem solving, loss of motor skills, decrease in muscle strength, increased heart rate, and anxiety2.
Yup, that's exactly why people smoke it! Next thing you're going to tell me that drinking alcohol causes a loss of judgement, trouble with thinking and problem solving, distorted perception, loss of motor skills, etc.
quote:
In recent years there has been a dramatic increase in the number of emergency room mentions of marijuana use. From 1993-2000, the number of emergency room marijuana mentions more than tripled.
ER *MENTIONS*? That's like saying the number of BJ "mentions" in major newspapers went up 2000% after the Lewinsky affair. The only thing that statistic means is that unlike during the Reagan "just say no" era, now people aren't afraid to talk about marijuana use anymore. How about some objective measure of PATHOLOGY associated with marijuana use instead of a worthless figure like that?
Go ask ANY ER doctor what the most dangerous drugs are, the ones that cause the most ER admissions, and they will all tell you the things that give them the most business are:
1. alcohol.
2. alcohol.
3. alcohol.
4. alcohol.
5. alcohol.
6. alcohol.
7. alcohol.
8. alcohol
9. Heroin
10. Cocaine
11. Amphetamines/exctacy/lsd
12. MEDICAL drugs (ie prescription, aspirin, tylenol).
13. cigarettes. . . .
14. marijuana.
quote:
There are also many long-term health consequences of marijuana use. According to the National Institutes of Health, studies show that someone who smokes five joints per week may be taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as someone who smokes a full pack of cigarettes every day.
That's not a long term health consequence, is it? Some people smoke two packs of cigarettes per day. How come the hospitals aren't full of people who developed lung cancer and emphysema from their MARIJUANA use the way they are full of cigarette smokers and drinkers with cirrhosis?
quote:
Marijuana contains more than 400 chemicals, including most of the harmful substances found in tobacco smoke. Smoking one marijuana cigarette deposits about four times more tar into the lungs than a filtered tobacco cigarette.
Gosh. . .400 chemicals!! A sip of Coca cola contains over 200 "chemicals". So what? Saying marijuana is four times as cancer-causing as cigarettes might be meaningful if the average schmoe smoked 4-5 marijuana cigarettes per day. (see above).
quote:
Harvard University researchers report that the risk of a heart attack is five times higher than usual in the hour after smoking marijuana.3
How much higher is in the hour after having sex?
After smoking a regular cigarette?
After climbing two flights of stairs?
After drinking three beers?
After a cup of coffee?
After taking a Viagra?
quote:
Smoking marijuana also weakens the immune system4 and raises the risk of lung infections.5 A Columbia University study found that a control group smoking a single marijuana cigarette every other day for a year had a white-blood-cell count that was 39 percent lower than normal, thus damaging the immune system and making the user far more susceptible to infection and sickness.6
I think that study dates back to the early 1970s and has long since been discredited. But again, if marijuana is so damaging to the immune system, how come hospitals aren't full of sick marijuana smokers?
quote:
Users can become dependent on marijuana to the point they must seek treatment to stop abusing it. In 1999, more than 200,000 Americans entered substance abuse treatment primarily for marijuana abuse and dependence..
The overwhelming majority of those individuals were ORDERED into treatment by the courts after being caught with pot. Virtually NOBODY voluntarily checks into rehab just because they smoke pot. Its practically unheard of.
Again, if marijuana is so dangerous and despicable where are the homeless marijuana addicts who are selling themselves on the street for a "hit" like the crack and heroin junkies? Where are the adults who claim that marijuana has ruined their lives like with all of the other drugs? Where is the marijuana associated violent crime?
The statistics show that the overwhelming majority of young people who like to smoke pot quit (by themselves without any treatment) when they hit their 30s.
There are plenty of good reasons NOT to smoke pot, but villifying the stuff and saying its like alcohol, crack, or heroin doesnt do anything but show to our young people (who arent as stupid as they seem) that the adults are a bunch of hypocrites.
He graduated with a 4.0.
Today, thirty years later, he is the manager of a big factory in Virgina, makes $175K a year, and he still smokes a joint two or three nights a week.
I have a friend who sleeps until noon every day and hasn't done an honest day's work in 20 years. His wife has a good job and provides for the mortgage, health insurance, and food. Sam smokes a joint every day, and I know the pot contributes to his laziness.
It is like booze, do it in moderation and it is ok, go to excess and it will damage you.
Only thing is, booze is ia lot more dangerous.
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I'm not apologizing, I am what I am
There is no compromising, I don't give a damn
Ozzy Osbourne - Lightning Strikes
I can also tell you first hand, that it does not effect my memory, knock on wood.....wait,I think there is someone at the door..anyway like I was saying, a truely fine weapon should be cleaned after every shooting.
Everyone is somebody's "wierdo".
Tobacco companies for years denied any medical connection between smokers and their products,, Same for POT.. seems the users are the only ones in denial...[}:)][}:)]
Funny how people pick up a ball and run with it.. Post an article about the medical effects pot has, and ya get people justifying the use of pot, and comparing it to other drugs, and alcohol,
Tobacco companies for years denied any medical connection between smokers and their products,, Same for POT.. seems the users are the only ones in denial...[}:)][}:)]
So basically you're admitted you're doing nothing but trolling on this post? Posting a topic with the intent to incite flames and controversial conversation.
I may posst contraversial subjects, but check the number of reads, and the number of responses compared to the other junk posted in here.. seems it makes some PEOPLE think..which wouldnt hurt any of us to try to do once in a while..
Roboman:: your still an idiot... the post was in answer to another thread, where someone said pot wont hurt people.. crawl back in your hole...[}:)][}:)]
Your response of unwarranted insults conveys your position of trolling more eloquently than I ever could. Bravo.
The last time I smoked weed was 17 years ago. Looking back on my personal experience with it I now recognize that it made me apathetic toward almost everything. I didn't care about school, work, or relationships, all I cared about was the next time I could get high.
MOLON LABE!
An evil tree bears evil fruit. You can destroy as much fruit as you want, but it will always grow back, and it will always be evil.
Tear the tree out of the ground by the roots and burn it. Burn it to ash and grind out the embers with your boot until there's nothing left. Not a single spark. Not a single seed.